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shutterbug12- 09-06-2007

Is there any actual other canon evidence of Wilson liking Broadway musicals? If all we have is that one "That's our Hitler!" line, all it proves to me is that he's a fan of Mel Brooks. I can't recall, either. He does, however, seem to enjoy or at least be relatively familiar with theater. He accepted tickets to a play from House and referenced Waiting for Godot, which made me giggle with unrestrained glee. Not sure if there are any more theater-related instances and, besides the Hitler reference, I can't remember any other references to musicals. Glad I've never happened upon this fanon version of Wilson before. Heh.

Taiga- 09-06-2007

Bonnie said that he would take her to plays and museums. Is there any actual other canon evidence of Wilson liking Broadway musicals? Nope, but it's canon that he likes jazz (from FFL when House thought Wilson was taking Wendy to a jazz festival) and he was listening to classical music during a surgery in 'Top Secret'. That may have been to calm the patient and not for his own taste, though. And of course there was the Village People reference, which I think was also a throwaway joke and not canonical proof that Wilson is gay as some insist.

blackmare- 09-06-2007

I did the math on that Village People thing. If Wilson's 37 now, he was no more than 9 or 10 when the Village People were really popular. I don't think the Fox writer monkeys ever thought of that. Did House actually say that Wilson liked jazz? Or did he just assume that was so because he assumed it was Wilson that Wendy was dating? I can't recall.

Hithah- 09-06-2007

Did House actually say that Wilson liked jazz? Or did he just assume that was so because he assumed it was Wilson that Wendy was dating? I can't recall. Chase says Wilson likes jazz, and House decides that whoever is dating Wendy is the person who likes jazz, not Wendy herself. Since this doesn't shake House from his assumption that Wilson is dating Wendy, then either House knows that Wilson likes jazz, or at least House believes it's possible Wilson likes jazz. ******* House: Aha! Brochure to a jazz festival in the Poconos this weekend. Chase: Wilson likes jazz. Foreman, pay the man. House: Four, five, six novels, no music. What does that mean? Foreman: She’s literate. House: It means she spends her leisure time reading, not listening. She’d only want to go and watch jazz if the other person wanted to go. She has a martyr complex. Issues of inferiority.

hwshipper- 09-07-2007

either House knows that Wilson likes jazz, or at least House believes it's possible Wilson likes jazz Very true, and having known each other for more than 17 years frankly you'd hope House would actually know one way or the other. However I was never terribly convinced by Wilson liking jazz, as he doesn't show any jazz-related interest in House's cases concerning jazz players - DNR and Who's Your Daddy. Doubtless someone will correct me if he does and I have forgotten. Oh for a look at the playlists on Wilson's ipp-odd. At least the fact that he has an ipp-odd shows some interest in some sort of music. Maybe! $5 here and there for lunches? Not noteworthy. A $5000 loan? Definitely noteworthy. Word. Other loans of note include the 100 dollars House demands he take out of the ATM in Son of Coma Guy before the road trip, and of course the 15 grand bail in Que Sera, where House even jokes about 'the doctor who lends 15 grand to a friend he knows can't pay him back.'

sasmom- 09-07-2007

Not defending clicehs (because I hate them, and if I ever use one in my fic, shoot me...please...ok. Don't shoot me, just gently point it out to me. I mean aside from Cuddy being pregnant, which I know, but the story's not over) Anyway, that said, House mooching is canon. He mooches newspapers, asking W to cough up for a paper (though not the tabloid that House bought several of); his motorbike, 100.00 to go on the road wit CG. But we also have plenty of knowledge that House pays for his own living expenses, etc. So to overuse the House mooching thing is a cliche and too easily overused. IMHO.

radiosweetheart- 09-07-2007

I did the math on that Village People thing. If Wilson's 37 now, he was no more than 9 or 10 when the Village People were really popular. Which is exactly the age that someone would be listening to Top 40 radio almost exclusively and would have fond memories of the music of that era-no matter how bad. I still get ridiculously happy listening to Jack and Diane and I can remember the video for Rio in it's glorious entirety. That's actually an example of the writers getting something right.

Namaste- 09-07-2007

But House mooches off of anyone anytime -- it's just that Wilson is usually the only one all the time. He's gotten both Chase and Foreman to put change in the vending machine for him (it seems like Cuddy or Cameron did too, but I'm not sure on that) and of course there was the "just salad today" bit in the lunch line. And on another subject: I did the math on that Village People thing. If Wilson's 37 now, he was no more than 9 or 10 when the Village People were really popular. That timing atually makes sense to me. A lot of irrational but intense music choices happen at that age. Just picture the boy band phenomenons of the past or the age of the High School Musical fans today. They get an intense interest, but then it fades away and they try to hide it. And as to the Godot and theater references, I just assumed that it's another way of showing Wilson's wide ranging interests -- which matches House's and also comes into play in House and wilson's banter. It's one of the reasons House likes Wilson, I feel, because Wilson can follow his conversation from sports to monster trucks to Greek history to the opera and back.

blackmare- 09-07-2007

Namaste, I totally agree about the "youthful irrational music choices" explanation. In fact I wrote a short fic about that. I felt the writers meant it as a throwaway "Wilson's gay!" joke. As such it didn't work for me because of how young Wilson would have been back then. It worked for me in the "clueless grade-schooler" context, though, so that's what I wrote. And yup, House will mooch off anyone who lets him. I'm inclined to believe that he does eventually pay Wilson back for the really big stuff (we saw him write out the $5000 check). And most of the time I really don't think the mooching is about money at all. It's all variations on the same thing House confessed to -- using money to find out how much people really care about him. And it's a little challenge sometimes, I think, to see whether he can get people to give him things. I also agree that Wilson seems to have very wide-ranging tastes in entertainment, wide enough to match House's own eclecticism. I think that's one reason why the "iPod full of show tunes" cliche bugs me as much as it does. There are so many possibilities for him and that's the best the writer could come up with? Bleh! Oh, one other thing. Someone mentioned Wilson's non-reaction to the musician in DNR. I'd like to point out that "jazz" covers a LOT of ground. It overlaps everything from blues to big band, swing to some parts of rock & roll. It's perfectly logical that Wilson could like jazz and not know all the same performers that House does.

Roga- 09-07-2007

I'd wager that the iPod full of show tunes is simply used for comic effect, and to play on the stereotyipical gay joke. (I'm also willing to bet Wilson actually does have a nice collection of show tunes on his iPod, in addition to his other tastes.)

deelaundry- 09-07-2007

LOLOL :wub: I love canon Wilson, and I love fanon Wilson too. Another fanon interpretation that goes too far (I've done it, as well) is that Wilson cooks for House all the time. If you remember from the Odd Couple arc, House was surprised at all the good food he got when Wilson was living with him. If Wilson had cooked for him before, House wouldn't have been surprised.

blackmare- 09-07-2007

So true about House being surprised at Wilson's cooking skills, Dee. Hee! But now that House knows? You can bet he will mooch Wilson's cooking at every possible opportunity. That's probably why Wilson kept that ability to himself for all those years. He knew perfectly well what would happen once House found out he could cook like that.

shutterbug12- 09-07-2007

And as to the Godot and theater references, I just assumed that it's another way of showing Wilson's wide ranging interests -- which matches House's and also comes into play in House and wilson's banter. It's one of the reasons House likes Wilson, I feel, because Wilson can follow his conversation from sports to monster trucks to Greek history to the opera and back. Yes, yes. Completely agreed. :D And, yes again to the comments about Wilson's cooking. House seems to turn into the image of a husband who claims he "doesn't know how" to iron a pair of pants, just so the wife can do it for him. That kind of thing. He'd make himself peanut butter sandwiches for the rest of his life if it meant Wilson would get tired of it and make a real meal instead. But yeah, Wilson cooking for House comes up a lot in fic. It's the Macadamia Nut pancake thing all over.

Namaste- 09-07-2007

It's the Macadamia Nut pancake thing all over. God, but I'm tired of the macadamia nut pancake thing. (Though I admit to referring to it myself.) Wilson is capable of cooking other things. There were the stuffed peppers, which House liked, the roast that House refused to clean up after, the salad with no lettuce that House stole. It reminds me of how so many fics seem to think he listens to nothing but The Who and the Stones because he's referred to them, so whenever he puts on his iPod, it's either the Who or the Stones.

DIY Sheep- 09-07-2007

Don't forget the Chinese!