The Emmys 2008

The Emmys 2008
The new and shiny thread for all things Emmy that are not House related. The big ones: Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Comedy Series : Entourage - Jeremy Piven as Ari Gold Entourage - Kevin Dillon as Johnny Drama How I Met Your Mother - Neil Patrick Harris as Barney Stins The Office - Rainn Wilson as Dwight Schrute Two And A Half Men -Jon Cryer as Alan Harper Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Drama Series: Boston Legal - William Shatner as Denny Crane Damages - Ted Danson as Arthur Frobisher Damages - Zeljko Ivanek as Ray Fiske Lost - Michael Emerson as Ben Mad Men - John Slattery as Roger Sterling Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Drama Series: Boston Legal - Candice Bergen as Shirley Schmidt Brothers & Sisters - Rachel Griffiths as Sarah Walker-Whedon Grey's Anatomy - Chandra Wilson as Dr. Miranda Bailey Grey's Anatomy - Sandra Oh as Cristina Yang In Treatment - Dianne Wiest as Dr. Gina Toll Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Comedy Series: Pushing Daisies - Kristin Chenoweth as Olive Snook Samantha Who? - Jean Smart as Regina Newly Saturday Night Live - Amy Poehler, Performer Two And A Half Men - Holland Taylor as Evelyn Harper Ugly Betty - Vanessa Williams as Wilhelmina Slater Outstanding Lead Actor In A Comedy Series: 30 Rock - Alec Baldwin as Jack Donaghy Monk - Tony Shalhoub as Adrian Monk Pushing Daisies - Lee Pace as Ned The Office - Steve Carell as Michael Scott Two And A Half Men - Charlie Sheen as Charlie Harper Outstanding Lead Actor In A Drama Series Boston Legal - James Spader as Alan Shore Breaking Bad - Bryan Cranston as Walt White Dexter - Michael C. Hall as Dexter Morgan House - Hugh Laurie as Dr. Gregory House In Treatment - Gabriel Byrne as Paul Mad Men - Jon Hamm as Don Draper Outstanding Lead Actress In A Comedy Series: 30 Rock - Tina Fey as Liz Lemon Samantha Who? - Christina Applegate as Samantha Newly The New Adventures Of Old Christine - Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Christine Campbell Ugly Betty - America Ferrera as Betty Suarez Weeds - Mary-Louise Parker as Nancy Botwin Outstanding Lead Actress In A Drama Series Brothers & Sisters - Sally Field as Nora Holden-Walker Damages - Glenn Close as Patty Hewes Law & Order: Special Victims Unit - Mariska Hargitay as Olivia Benson Saving Grace - Holly Hunter as Grace Hanadarko The Closer - Kyra Sedgwick as Deputy Chief Brenda Johnson Outstanding Drama Series Boston Legal Damages Dexter House Lost Mad Men Outstanding Comedy Series 30 Rock Curb Your Enthusiasm Entourage The Office Two And A Half Men Full nomination list to be found here: http://cdn.emmys.tv/awards/2008pte/60thpte_noms.php

Those who know me, know how happy I am that Boston Legal, the show ABC considers the ugly step child, got so many nominations. 3 acting and best show. I'm also incredibly happy to see Dexter and MCH on those lists.

I'm glad that I'm still in the honeymoon phase with 30 Rock, because if I weren't in love with it I'd be just as annoyed seeing it filling entire categories as I was with The Sopranos. But, as long as "Rosemary's Baby" got an adequate # of nominations (and I didn't keep track, but I'm going to assume that that is what Baldwin submitted and that that is what will no doubt clinch the win for him) I'm okay with whatever they want to throw in there. I'm nowhere near through with this list, but I'm happy with so many of the nominees. Other than the two I'm obviously stoked about (Hugh and Bryan Cranston), it's just awesome that Poehler and Arnett and Paul Feig and Lee Pace and Kristin Chenoweth and Neil Patrick Harris and Hamm and Slattery and FOTC and...plenty other got the nominations. And I'm glad Sarah Silverman got the guest nod (because I love her on Monk) instead of slipping into the lead category. I'm also glad Piven got the nomination even though his show wasn't one of the best this past year. It was better than the previous season (a lot better) and most of the cast was excellent, but...meh. Still, it's more deserving than 2 1/2 Men, which...bigger meh. Actually that deserves a bleh. That show really doesn't deserve to be nominated for much of anything. Maybe Holland Taylor, but that's about it. They all just phone it in.

AmySusanne, could you elaborate on your rating system? Bleh is lower than meh -- I get that. Is there anything between them? Is there anything below bleh? Enquiring minds and all that. :lol:

Neil Patrick Harris! Neil Patrick Harris! Neil.Patrick.Harris. Yay! I'm sure I have other important things to say about those noms, but that's really the big one. Other than Hugh Laurie, but to paraphrase Flight of the Conchords (and where are they on that list? I <3 Bret and Jermaine-they rule) a nom is not a contract. Poor Hugh, always a bridesmaid...

Still, it's more deserving than 2 1/2 Men, which...bigger meh. Actually that deserves a bleh. That show really doesn't deserve to be nominated for much of anything. Maybe Holland Taylor, but that's about it. They all just phone it in. Seriously. I try to avoid that show like the plague, but yeah, it's pretty awful. Kind of difficult to stomach a Charlie Sheen nomination over a David Duchovny nomination for Californication.

AmySusanne, could you elaborate on your rating system? Bleh is lower than meh -- I get that. Is there anything between them? Is there anything below bleh? Well, since you *asked*...{g} If I had to chart it, I'd say that there's a blah between the meh and the bleh. Meh = Entourage, formerly good show, now a boring nomination. Blah = Deal or No Deal got a nomination just because the academy wanted five shows in that category. Bleh = not quite According to Jim, but still a completely ridiculous show to be nominated. There should probably be something below bleh that equals someting to the effect of "they should just burn the stage down and get it over with". That's only a necessary category in the event that Jim Belushi gets nominated for *anything*. but to paraphrase Flight of the Conchords (and where are they on that list? I <3 Bret and Jermaine-they rule) a nom is not a contract Music and Writing. And as much as I would be thrilled to see someone have to announce that "I'm Fucking Matt Damon" is the winner, I hope voters actually listen because there's no way "The Most Beautiful Girl (in the room)" isn't the best song in that category. Seriously. I try to avoid that show like the plague, but yeah, it's pretty awful. Kind of difficult to stomach a Charlie Sheen nomination over a David Duchovny nomination for Californication. No doubt. I guess the PG-13 sex and double entendres on that show are about as much as the Academy can stomach. They love their violence, but they don't like the dirty stuff.

If AI was serious about winning they should have submitted the 'Paula goes completely cuckoo and can see the future during Neil Diamond night'.

Looking through the list linked above, House's Head got a best directing nomination for Greg Yaitanes. Yay! Also nom for House: Guardian Angels for best musical score. Yay! (also posted in media thread)

From the Awards thread: I know nothing of Gossip Girl, so I couldn't say, but considering that Mad Men was the first original series to even air on AMC, period, and then swung for the fences, going on to win all sorts of awards, including best drama and best actor at the Golden Globes while currently surfing a tsunami of enthusiastic critical buzz on the verge of its second season, I'd say that's a pretty huge hit. I'm not commenting on Mad Men. I keep meaning to watch it but haven't yet. But all the people on TV are talking about how this is the first time a show from basic cable has been nominated. And now we're adding that this is the first series AMC has ever created. Remember WENN was a series on AMC and it was not only nominated for 5 prime time Emmys (mostly for costume), it won one. It was a good show. They also did The Lot -- nominated for 3, won one. Broken Trails was a miniseries, so that probably doesn't count.

But all the people on TV are talking about how this is the first time a show from basic cable has been nominated. And now we're adding that this is the first series AMC has ever created. Remember WENN was a series on AMC and it was not only nominated for 5 prime time Emmys (mostly for costume), it won one. It was a good show. They also did The Lot -- nominated for 3, won one. Broken Trails was a miniseries, so that probably doesn't count. I don't have a memory of either of these shows, but were they actually produced by the network or did they just air on AMC? AMC actually financed Mad Men (after HBO passed), which I'm thinking is the critical difference.

Sorry, I'm confused again. If this thread is for non-House related Emmy discussion, why should the House related Emmy discussion be moved here from the Awards thread? I'm dense. Bear with me. :wink: Uhm... yay for the four nominations! :D

But all the people on TV are talking about how this is the first time a show from basic cable has been nominated. And now we're adding that this is the first series AMC has ever created. I'll be completely honest and admit that I have no idea if they had a hand in creating it or not. But beyond that, I think it's a matter of semantics for most people, though given that TBS had three original comedies in the early eighties and both TBS's flacks and the critics are falling all over themselves to call "My Boys" the first original series the network has ever produced, there's really no telling. But, most people are referring to "Mad Men" as the first original drama the network has put money into. I never watched "Remember WENN", but I did watch "The Lot" and both were considered comedies. And both were pretty cheap by comparison. "Mad Men" is on par with something HBO would produce. It's the first series AMC's really invested cash into when it comes to product they're airing on their own network. I'm not clear on whether or not MM was produced specifically for AMC or produced and then sold to AMC (that's the case with BB), but the second season will no doubt cost them more than the first. I'm pretty sure "The Lot" was produced by AMC, but I don't know about the other one.

Remember WENN was created by Rupert Holmes for AMC -- they were the producers.*** I believe this is the first year that basic cable network's programs got nominated in the best series categories (comedy or drama), but not the first year they were nominated. (I think the pundits don't remember because there was a gap of almost a decade before AMC tried again.) ***AMC used to air old "This Is Your Life" episodes. Those were not to be believed. My favorite/the saddest one was Frances Farmer. There she was, straight from the sanitarium/lobotomy, smiling pleasantly and blandly at everything. And they always gave the subject of the show a special present. In this case, they explained how she was trying to get back into movies but it was hard to go on auditions without a car. So her present was a brand new Edsel. And I thought "that poor woman just couldn't get a break."

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