I really really did not know he wanted to leave the show.
He didn't, which makes this even worse. They 'wanted to shake things up a bit' :roll: At least when Numb3rs pulled a fast one on me last year, they redeemed Colby in the season opener. At least that was awesome writing which made that the second best season finale that year after Lost. This was just crappy writing, good acting though, I give them that. Maybe they play the 'it was all a dream' or wherever card, but that might make it even worse.
I have a hard time watching the last few episodes of season 2 of NCIS. I know what's going to happen to Kate and the team. One of the most shocking deaths ever but that wasn't character assassination, which is how I see what the Bones writers did to Zack.
I have a feeling shows are more affected by the strike than we thought. Lots of things seem rushed or unfinished. I'm so glad Lost got a 3 part season finale and will stick to the amount of episodes they have given themselves to tell story they want to tell by adding an episode to each of the seasons they have left.
arizonamyrie- 05-20-2008
So they went from Zach being booted from the Army because he refused to kill to being booted from the show because he did kill. Why would this make sense, other than maybe TPTB view him as the "weak" character, or one that's too much like other characters on the show (Brennen)?
houserocket7- 05-20-2008
So they went from Zach being booted from the Army because he refused to kill to being booted from the show because he did kill. Why would this make sense, other than maybe TPTB view him as the "weak" character, or one that's too much like other characters on the show (Brennen)?
Right there with you. This finale bothered me so much that I woke up last night making arguments in my head why it was wrong.
I have decided that (in my mind anyway) Zach did not kill or murder anyone. His exposure to Gormagon (G) was too short (3 months) to explain the sudden illogical change in character. Given the PTSD, I could accept that he was at a loss and might be infleunced to consider G's ideas, but not to embrace and act on the plan to kill someone. there are too many hints of something else which leads me to hope Zach will return next season.
Zach has demonstrated that he questioned G's authority by tracking where the house is in his mind. If G wanted him to know where it was, he wouldn't have blindfolded Zach and by putting himself in harm's way instead of Hodgins, thus choosing Hodgins over himself. And wasn't that decision a plea to be stopped? He had to know that he would be found out and by injuring himself so severely he know he would be stopped.
I think (hope) he will come back and be reintegrated into the team. The interview says he may come back. Since he lied about leaving the show before (and felt so bad about it), his vagueness on this point may mean he is coming back eventually
amysusanne- 05-20-2008
I don't really think he could be reintegrated into the team, but I think he could be reintegrated into the show. I think the (possibility) of PTDS could salvage the character almost 100%, but I don't think that someone who actively worked to sabotage an investigation would be allowed to work for the government again in a capacity that gave him even mid-level security clearance. I think Zach will be back and probably in a positive aspect, but I wouldn't really believe that they'd get him back on the team. Now *Brennan* could employ him. That would be a definite possibility. I just can't see him being allowed back into the Jeffersonian even if it turned out that he didn't actually murder anyone.
houserocket7- 05-20-2008
I don't really think he could be reintegrated into the team, but I think he could be reintegrated into the show. I think the (possibility) of PTDS could salvage the character almost 100%, but I don't think that someone who actively worked to sabotage an investigation would be allowed to work for the government again in a capacity that gave him even mid-level security clearance. I think Zach will be back and probably in a positive aspect, but I wouldn't really believe that they'd get him back on the team. Now *Brennan* could employ him. That would be a definite possibility. I just can't see him being allowed back into the Jeffersonian even if it turned out that he didn't actually murder anyone.
You're right, of course.
Bringing him back, specifically with Brennan and, therefore Booth, has good story possibilities and might let me forget TPTB...of course, they need Gordon Gordon to help Zach.
melly- 05-20-2008
Was NCIS poking fun at House with that finale?
arizonamyrie- 05-20-2008
Didn't see it melly, but what happened?
melly- 05-20-2008
It ended with Ziva, McGee, and Dinozzo all getting canned/ reassigned and Gibbs being handed the files of his "new team".
Considering that NCIS is going to go up against House next season, I found that hysterical.
Nevael- 05-21-2008
Was NCIS poking fun at House with that finale?
I think they were. You know, I was really hoping for a shocking twist...but that was a waste of my time. Two hours on something that could have easilly fit into the regular time slot.
Why oh why did they do that? All the unimportant junk was front and center and they spent like ten minutes (maybe) on the real meat of the thing.
Needless to say, I wasn't happy with the episode. I wouldn't have been happy with it even if it hadn't been the season finale.
And don't get me started on the Whiskey Tango Foxtrot factor of giving someone a terminal disease and then killing them off the show.
I was expecting bigger and better. It was neither of those. BOO NCIS...boo.
TVGuide.com: Right. As one reader noted, "what good TV does" is get people talking.
HH: And we certainly did that.
Wow, someone is a wee bit delusional. Bad tv also makes people talk dude and this was spectacularly bad tv. :roll:
TrooperCam- 05-21-2008
So they went from Zach being booted from the Army because he refused to kill to being booted from the show because he did kill.
He was never in the Army he was appointed to work with the Army as a forsenic anthropologist in Iraq doing mass grave identifications.
As it has been pointed out I don't see Zack ever being allowed back on the team. He would never be allowed to even get a basic security clearance BUT I can see Brennen and Booth going to the hospital in order to consult with him.
ikilledkenny- 05-23-2008
I wasn't crazy about how quickly Chuck reverted, but I enjoyed watching the wheels turn. And I'm a big fan of the show's abrupt music cues. I loved it with Serena's "I killed someone" moment and I really enjoyed it with Chuck's rose moment.
I was actually kinda relieved because I was scared they would turn Chuck into the sweet nice guy and CB to the sweet nice couple. It was true to the character and I don't want to see Chuck Bass changing, at least not so fast. Plus, I think CB should be more interesting that way. And I think I loved the rose moment because of Ed. He just nails the "I'm Chuck Bass" line everytime :lol:
Appearently this is how they originally planned to end the season. I liked the ending they actually used so much better
houserocket7- 05-23-2008
As it has been pointed out I don't see Zack ever being allowed back on the team. He would never be allowed to even get a basic security clearance BUT I can see Brennen and Booth going to the hospital in order to consult with him.
As we have all seen so many times before, the laws of nature and the laws of man hold no sway over the power of the powers that be (TPTB). If they want Zack back, Zack shall return with or without presidential pardon in hand and records wiped clean or he'll just show up without any real explanation...and I, for one, would not be the least bit surprised and may be even a little happy because I would know that meant they knew they did a stupid, stupid thing and I could forgive them...eventually, if they never did it again.
amysusanne- 05-23-2008
Maybe next season's opener will have Hodgins waking up to find Zach in his shower...
I'd really rather they not hit the reset button. They did something that has people scratching their heads and now their job is to explain it, not add more unbelievable events on top of it. Zach can be a part of the show, but Zach being in the lab as an employee of the Jeffersonian would go beyond things I can suspend my disbelief for.
I was actually kinda relieved because I was scared they would turn Chuck into the sweet nice guy and CB to the sweet nice couple.
Don't get me wrong...I don't want any of that and I enjoyed the roses scene itself, it just seemed very abrupt. The entire ending (with all of the couples) felt very tacked on. I think one more episode would have really helped the entire arc of G vs. Serena and all of the Lily/Rufus/Bart stuff and anything having to do with Nate and Vanessa and Chuck and Blair. Another 41 minutes could have made a world of difference.
As for the alternate ending, I read that yesterday but didn't go too far into it. I wasn't sure if it was real or not. It was definitely interesting. I'm not usually a fan of "the big misunderstanding", so I don't know that I would have liked Blair thinking that Chuck stood her up while he was actually being held up by tragedy, but it might have played well. Or maybe I've just become a reluctant Lily/Rufus shipper and like the idea of a dead Bart Bass. And that's very, very wrong of me. {g}
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