As of TRS, we have seen Cuddy interact minimally with the new recruits for House's team. Now I wonder when we will get a scene in which Wilson meets some of the new candidates. Will House ask for Wilson's opinion on any of them before he makes the final cut?

He's already met 'someone named 17'

Maybe this is because, even though House may be pissed at Wilson on a personal level, he is scared to ruin his only friendship by attacking him personally, so he attacks his medicine. As we have seen, House has no problem attacking Wilson personally when he isn't pissed at him (the personal attack for the personal beef is just too close to the truth?) Er...I'm not going to say this isn't all intriguing and quite possibly true...but, dammit, can you really expect House not to make fun of a doctor who does some of the stuff Wilson does? Come on, not noticing Alex's lack of ..er...woman parts? I'm not saying House wouldn't still attack him as a doctor if Wilson were medically perfect--if he couldn't find anything, he'd make it up--but I don't think we should forget that Wilson (or, rather, the writers) does give him plenty of ammo....and best friend or not, House is going to make fun of that kind of thing in any doctor. Is it just me or does it seem meaner to attack Wilson on the personal front but House on the professional? Maybe House attacks Wilson on the professional front because it's less personal and therefore for Wilson less hurtful whereas attacks on House on the professional level are more hurtful to him than personal attacks--both of which Wilson engages in btw. Or am I just babbling?

Is it just me or does it seem meaner to attack Wilson on the personal front but House on the professional? I think it's mean to attack Wilson on any front! Just kidding! :wink: I guess you right, when House attacks Wilson, the doctor, he usually doesn't sound cruel, at least not to me. His personal attacks, OTOH, really hit the right spot (same with the Cuddy, if you think about it). Probably because Wilson's personal life is so, so sad! Medicine is House life, so it's the easier way to reach him and to hurt him too. And I don't remember House making fun of Wilson about Alex... I remember him actually defending him when Cameron asked why Wilson didn't notice the "little" problem about the she/he. Did I miss something?

Probably not Lully. I just have a terrible memory so I figured he must have made fun of him about that. I know I would.... :wink:

I would too, but from the way it was written I think House was explaining to the audience why Wilson didn't catch it - or rather, he was explaining that magical thing called "House medicine". I'd love to see House ask Wilson's opinion of the candidates, even though he'd just make fun of anything Wilson said.

Lully, thanks for the heads up. I think it's mean to attack Wilson on any front! I am seriously in this camp. Love my Wilson.

I didn't know Wilson was perfect and couldn't be attacked on any front? Someone should have told me :wink: On the other hand, I wouldn't listen anyway... I'm puzzled that so many people think the show depicts Wilson as a bad doctor. He's a good oncologist and most of the 'mistakes' are either outside his speciality or due to the slightly odd way medicine seems to work in the House-verse (e.g. Nicky in Family). I can only think of two occasions that speak directly to his ability as a doctor. One was Skin Deep (and he wasn't alone there - Cameron did the pelvic and completely missed the absence of a cervix) and the OD scene in MLC. Normally, I'd argue that 'medicine works differently on House etc.' but that argument really only works when it's reasonable to expect a layperson to miss the shortcuts the writers make. In MLC, they touched upon something any sane person should know: Never, ever leave a person who's taken a drug overdose. It's an unpredictable situation and a prognosis can't be established simply by looking at the person. I don't buy that Wilson knew that House would be okay, because I know there is no way Wilson could know that. That was a clear case of the writers pushing him into 'bad doctor' territory because they needed an extreme and definitive reaction. My interpretation is that he was sufficiently distraught and stressed that he didn't think straight, but it's canon that he left so that speaks to his ability to keep his head cold in a crisis – and speaks against him. I can understand why he left, but had it been a real-life situation he could very conceivable have been struck off.

I find it hard to believe that the writers were using the MLC scene to push the idea Wilson was a bad doctor. He went to House's apt as Best Friend Wilson not as Dr. Wilson. I would've left House on the floor too. Unlike Wilson, I wouldn't have cared if he was alright. I really hope that S4 turns into the year of accountability. I want S1 House back, the grown-up eccentric House who really cared about his best friend.

I didn't know Wilson was perfect and couldn't be attacked on any front? Someone should have told me :shock: You didn't know? He is God! :lol: I probably would hate Wilson's character if he was "perfect". What makes me love him so much are his flaws. He is so wrong and yet he seems more human than some of the other characters. My interpretation is that he was sufficiently distraught and stressed that he didn't think straight, but it's canon that he left so that speaks to his ability to keep his head cold in a crisis That is my interpretation too, but I'm not sure if this was the writers intention. I would never have left House alone in that situation, but I'm not Wilson and I'm good in a crisis :wink: . So maybe his closeness to House was what pushed him to leave, if that makes any sense...

I find it hard to believe that the writers were using the MLC scene to push the idea Wilson was a bad doctor. He went to House's apt as Best Friend Wilson not as Dr. Wilson. I would've left House on the floor too. Unlike Wilson, I wouldn't have cared if he was alright. I'm with you. I don't think the OD scene was meant to have anything to do with Wilson being a bad doctor. I certainly don't think it showed Wilson's inability to keep his head in a crisis. I have no doubt that if the pills hadn't have been stolen from his dead patient, he would have stayed. Wilson made a conscious decision to leave, he didn't panic or lose it, which is how I define not being able to keep a cool head in a crisis. I've said this before and I'll say it again, I think that Wilson did the right thing leaving him there. I would've done the same thing. Maybe that makes me a bad friend but Wilson had already been through a heck of a lot to help House and by that point he was fed up. If it had just been some stranger who had OD'd I think Wilson would've helped. I took a lot away from that scene but Wilson as a bad doctor was not one of them. I also don't think it's fair to single Wilson out on the bad doctor front. All of them have been portrayed as "bad" doctors at some point and I think it's mostly to highlight how brilliant House is.

I find it hard to believe that the writers were using the MLC scene to push the idea Wilson was a bad doctor. He went to House's apt as Best Friend Wilson not as Dr. Wilson. I would've left House on the floor too. Unlike Wilson, I wouldn't have cared if he was alright. I'm with you. I don't think the OD scene was meant to have anything to do with Wilson being a bad doctor. I certainly don't think it showed Wilson's inability to keep his head in a crisis. I have no doubt that if the pills hadn't have been stolen from his dead patient, he would have stayed. Wilson made a conscious decision to leave, he didn't panic or lose it, which is how I define not being able to keep a cool head in a crisis. I've said this before and I'll say it again, I think that Wilson did the right thing leaving him there. I would've done the same thing. Maybe that makes me a bad friend but Wilson had already been through a heck of a lot to help House and by that point he was fed up. If it had just been some stranger who had OD'd I think Wilson would've helped. I took a lot away from that scene but Wilson as a bad doctor was not one of them. Oh dear. To reopen or not to reopen this can of worms....Oh, of course I'll open it! I think what makes him a bad doctor in this case is that in becoming a doctor you accept certain obligations which apply all the time, not just when you are in doctor-mode and one of those is that you don't walk away from anyone in a life-treatening situation (except in extremely special circumstances like your own life is in danger--certainly not because you are mad at someone because he has been an asshole to you). Doctors don't get to make moralistic or personal decisions about who they will treat in emergency situations--like a drug OD--they treat murderers, drunk drivers, perverts, rapists, enemy soldiers. There are obviously some circumstances--and some of us think Wilson leaving House in MLC is one--in which refusing/failing to treat is morally or emotionally defensible but in my opinion, that does not absolve you from the charge of being a bad doctor. This is my take on it and I naturally don't expect everyone to agree but for me MLC was unquestionably an instance of Wilson being a bad doctor ethically. He has also been shown as being a bad doctor medically and there is a great deal of truth in the comment that so has everyone else--even House. I think in many of the cases, it's more a plot device than part of character: everyone else has to get it wrong for House to be the one to get it right. The only times I really wonder about it are his (and Cuddy's) notions about how to deal medically with House's pain and how to detox him. Most of the other stuff I can write off as not really meaning Wilson (or whoever else) is a bad doctors, it's just a convenience to show House's superiority. I don't think we are meant to believe that any of the characters are anything less than way better than average doctors or they wouldn't be working with House.

I agree, SweetFern. I think leaving House in MLC worked dramatically, but it was the wrong decision for a doctor to make. We accept a lot of things because they make for good TV, but that doesn't make them medically right. As far as Wilson being portrayed as a bad doctor... We shouldn't expect Wilson to be an expert diagnostician. That isn't his area of specialization. And, when he's sitting in on a Diagnostics DDX and he doesn't figure it out (e.g. Merry Little Christmas and the fact that the girl wasn't a dwarf) it's fine. When he says "not cancer" and House proves him wrong, he is being shown to be a bad doctor in order to make House look good. The same is true if Foreman says the problem isn't neurological or if Cameron insists that there is not allergy involved.* But I think it's less so in their cases as they aren't supposed to be as advanced in their expertise as Wilson is. Everyone misses a call, even in their area of expertise, even House. If Wilson had missed one or even two cancers in 72 episodes, I'd say "it happens." But having him miss several is using him as a plot device to make House look good. *I didn't include Chase because I'm not sure how one could say the patient wasn't having an intensive problem. What would he say?"I know the patient's body is jerking around on the bed, but I don't think the he's seizing. He's probably just shivering because he's cold."

I didn't include Chase because I'm not sure how one could say the patient wasn't having an intensive problem. What would he say?"I know the patient's body is jerking around on the bed, but I don't think the he's seizing. He's probably just shivering because he's cold." Uh-oh, now you are so going to get jossed on that one! I predict before the season's over that very thing is going to happen! :wink: