Reality is Almost Always Wrong: Spoiler Discussion Thread

ITA with Lully and travlncarrie, the main point of this is not House's father or House's relationship with him. It's about House and Wilson. House's dad dying is just a plot device to throw them together. Which is not to say that Wilson won't try to make it all about House's dad. He'll probably insist that House not going to support his mother is exactly the point that he wants to make about House -- the man is so self-centered that he's willing to make his own mother even more miserable by refusing to attend his father's funeral. And he'll have a point. That's when House will go and turn everything on its head and blow Wilson's mind, of course. I guess what House may say is the real reason why Wilson wants to go away, something that Wilson might want to deny even to himself, and I don't think it's about Amber at all. I think you're probably right. Personally, I thought the "burnt sienna" line in DCE was pretty low and that would have gotten me to throw something but if Wilson kept his cool when House said that, then I think what will make Wilson lose it is House forcing him to look at his true motives for running away that even he doesn't want to face. Yes. Whatever he says, this is what Cuddy wanted House to say in couples' counseling. I think that whatever House says here will be on Wilson's mind all of Lucky Thirteen, hopefully with the result of Wilson deciding to come back at the end of that episode.

I think that whatever House says here will be on Wilson's mind all of Lucky Thirteen, hopefully with the result of Wilson deciding to come back at the end of that episode. ITA, ideally I'd like episode 5 to end with Wilson at House's door and House letting him in (not to live, just to talk or hang out). They could play it out longer, but if ep. 5 is PI's last episode, I'm hoping Wilson will be back by the end of that episode. I don't get why House would get rid of PI if Wilson is not yet back, unless PI does something really horrible but if DS wants us to follow him to his own show, that can't be the case.

I imagine with House's tight-waddedness (Is that a word? It is now.) and with Cuddy unwilling to keep Lucas on retainer, the PI will disappear when he realizes the funds have run dry, whether Wilson's back or not. Don't get me wrong...I certainly hope Wilson's at least making an effort by the end of 5x05, but I don't think he'll be back-back.

I imagine with House's tight-waddedness (Is that a word? It is now.) and with Cuddy unwilling to keep Lucas on retainer, the PI will disappear when he realizes the funds have run dry, whether Wilson's back or not. I don't see House just stopping paying for PI when he can use him to get to Wilson and to have company. Unless House genuinely can't pay for him anymore, I don't see him dropping his surrogate Wilson without having the real thing back. The man is desperate and lonely, at least in my eyes. Wilson may not be back-back as in back to PPTH by episode 5, but I think (hope) that the mending can begin by then.

I'm also wondering if the shot of Wilson throwing something is because House might have told him something about the night of the bus crash (like his reason for being at the bar...maybe he knew his dad was sick). Although, I'm also thinking he might say something totally inappropriate, perhaps about Amber or something about Wilson's grief that angers Wilson. I guess what House may say is the real reason why Wilson wants to go away, something that Wilson might want to deny even to himself, and I don't think it's about Amber at all. I love the idea that House would use the eulogy to say how much Wilson means to him. Love it! I totally agree with you. In fact, Wilson trying to move on doesn't have anything to do with Amber. Wilson has remained friends with his ex-wives even though he thought each one was a mistake and crappy. In the two months Wilson was mourning, I think he came to the realization that House was right. Amber was his female proxy. For Wilson, big shock. And when Wilson said "I should have been on the bus. You should have been on the bus alone, which is just like saying "you should have been the one who to die" -Ouch. To me, Wilson is running away from his feelings for House. I hope House calls him on it.

ITA with Lully and travlncarrie, the main point of this is not House's father or House's relationship with him. It's about House and Wilson. House's dad dying is just a plot device to throw them together. I'm sure House's relationship with his dad will be talked about to an extent, but it's not the main focus here. House's dad is gone, there's nothing he can do about it and they weren't close. House and Wilson were close and Wilson's left, but there is something House can do about that. I'm still betting that something Wilson says or does is what gives House inspiration for the devious plan. That is one of the things I am afraid of. I really want to find out more about the father/son relationship and would be so disappointed if this plot was just about H/W. I am interested in how that gets resolved, but I feel the tension between House and his father deserves some real attention. So, no, I don't want the eulogy to be about Wilson, sorry! I think it is just as important for House to deal with this issue with his father as it is to find a way to get Wilson back as his friend.

I'm sorry if I missed the brunt of the speculation, but did we ever come to a fannish consensus of the punch in the earlier promos? I remember some people thought it was a flashback of House's dad hitting him when he was younger, but I'm kinda doubting they'll put flashbacks in Birthmarks now (although...I'd squee louder than the entire population of a Pirates of the Caribbean premiere if they did.)

I'm sorry if I missed the brunt of the speculation, but did we ever come to a fannish consensus of the punch in the earlier promos? I remember some people thought it was a flashback of House's dad hitting him when he was younger, but I'm kinda doubting they'll put flashbacks in Birthmarks now (although...I'd squee louder than the entire population of a Pirates of the Caribbean premiere if they did.) That scene (if it's the one I think you mean) was from last week's epi...the potw was punched by his client.

I'm also wondering if the shot of Wilson throwing something is because House might have told him something about the night of the bus crash (like his reason for being at the bar...maybe he knew his dad was sick). Although, I'm also thinking he might say something totally inappropriate, perhaps about Amber or something about Wilson's grief that angers Wilson. I guess what House may say is the real reason why Wilson wants to go away, something that Wilson might want to deny even to himself, and I don't think it's about Amber at all. I love the idea that House would use the eulogy to say how much Wilson means to him. Love it! I totally agree with you. In fact, Wilson trying to move on doesn't have anything to do with Amber. Wilson has remained friends with his ex-wives even though he thought each one was a mistake and crappy. In the two months Wilson was mourning, I think he came to the realization that House was right. Amber was his female proxy. For Wilson, big shock. And when Wilson said "I should have been on the bus. You should have been on the bus alone, which is just like saying "you should have been the one who to die" -Ouch. To me, Wilson is running away from his feelings for House. I hope House calls him on it. Mm... I don't think that was what he was saying. He started to say that he should have been the one on the bus instead of Amber, but stopped himself before he went right back to taking the blame and enabling House like he always does. So I think "you should have been alone on the bus" was just saying House shouldn't have called him, Amber, or anyone, and taken care of himself. It was my favorite line. :lol: I agree that Wilson "trying to move on" doesn't have much to do with Amber. But he's said as much ("Amber was never the reason I was leaving..."). I don't think he's in denial about anything, though. In fact, I think he's more clear-headed than ever. I know I'm proud of him. :)

Ausiello has a clip of Jesse saying that Chase will be involved in a "major arc" involving euthanasia Ausiello clip

Ausiello has a clip of Jesse saying that Chase will be involved in a "major arc" involving euthanasia When I read the headline, "Chase confronts death," I thought it meant he was getting caught up in the hostage situation, I was kind of letdown when I watched the video. Not that I want Chase to die, but him being involved in that would have made a great episode. Either way, I'm glad he's getting a storyline, I wonder if Cameron will be there to help him with this since she's had her experience with euthanasia.

Ausiello has a clip of Jesse saying that Chase will be involved in a "major arc" involving euthanasia When I read the headline, "Chase confronts death," I thought it meant he was getting caught up in the hostage situation, I was kind of letdown when I watched the video. Not that I want Chase to die, but him being involved in that would have made a great episode. Either way, I'm glad he's getting a storyline, I wonder if Cameron will be there to help him with this since she's had her experience with euthanasia. That was my first thought, too! Such a let down but I'm still happy he gets a storyline. There are no words to describe how annoyed I was by Ausiello and KJ in that vid. No words.

Well, I asked to be thrown a bone but I was hoping for something with a little more meat on it. Already knew what KJ said in that interview. The bit about Chase is interesting; glad to hear he's getting more screen time. I wonder who though? A patient? We've seen Cameron in that situation twice now (Rat book writer guy & the old, homeless, lonely man who wanted to die...no idea what epis these were), which makes me wonder if it isn't a patient. I don't think we'd lose anyone on the show, but maybe someone makes him promise should a surgery or procedure go wrong? Only of course, to have that person make it through the surgery/procedure just fine.

I'm sorry if I missed the brunt of the speculation, but did we ever come to a fannish consensus of the punch in the earlier promos? I remember some people thought it was a flashback of House's dad hitting him when he was younger, but I'm kinda doubting they'll put flashbacks in Birthmarks now (although...I'd squee louder than the entire population of a Pirates of the Caribbean premiere if they did.) That scene (if it's the one I think you mean) was from last week's epi...the potw was punched by his client. Oh, lol my DVR started recording late for some reason and I missed that part. Sorry for sounding like an idiot. :oops: Thanks!

So, I didn't watch the new Ausiello video yet, but since you guys have said there's a Chase arc about euthanasia...my bet is that (sorry, 13 haters!) it's centered around that Huntington's patient who's supposed to be around for multiple eps (assuming I'm remembering that right?). It doesn't seem terribly likely that it's about a main character, as I don't think they'd do that kind of a plot around mid-season, and it sounds like (and again, could easily be remembering wrong) this will be after November sweeps as they've already discussed filming ep 9/10 (one of which is the last episode airing during that sweeps period, depending on whether ep 6 airs 10/28 or it gets delayed a week). I don't know how exactly Chase gets pulled into that, but it seems the most likely option, at least to me.

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