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Lully- 08-27-2008

Taiga wrote: It's out of context but I saw the "buy a plant" comment as House being impatient with Wilson's impulsive resignation Am I the only one who loved that line, I'm not? Wilson is babbling a lot of platitudes, that retort is so House. I don't see it as particularly heartless. Or maybe I'm heartless too. :wink: Filey wrote: I am assuming with horror that Ass-ie is trying to imply that Wilson and Cam are having biblical knowledge of each other. Of course after the video where he calls Wilson the love of House's life he needs to say (or write) something incredibly stupid. It's important to stay IC! He obviously still doesn't watch the show. And really? Any possible hook up on the show that Aussielo called, never, ever happened. I want him as far away from H/W as possible. His 'shippy' preferences are the kiss of death!

travin1- 08-27-2008

In the very extensive spoilers we have so far for the first 2 episodes there has been no mention from anyone, media or forums, of any talk in the show about House's recovery. Well, it is two months later & it would be odd if he wasn't completely recovered - IMO that time gap is a convenient way for DH to yet again gloss over House's recovery, but also to try to make it irrelevant to the issue of what is going on between House & Wilson. Thanks filey, I'm too chicken to go read the spoilers. Licia I'm wondering, if House and Wilson haven't spoken since the accident (I think I've read that here), then Wilson wasn't there for House during his recovery. I just wonder if that might come into play some time during the reconciliation. Pretty harsh, imho, even for someone who experienced such a big loss to ignore someone he considered his best friend for years after such extreme trauma. I kind of hope House calls him on it (I wouldn't mind a little drama before the kiss and make up). Also wondering if he has any lingering affects, or if they'll assume the House is a Timex watch stance. He takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

filex1410- 08-27-2008

Depending on who’s doing the licking. *coughs* Sorry. :blushing: Next up for House he's straped to a running outboard motor. I wouldn’t be so quick to get on Wilson’s case for not being there for House. At the same time that was happening Wilson was dealing with the shock of Amber’s sudden death, funeral, burial arrangements and the rest. Wilson was secure in the knowledge that House’s recovery was taking place at PPTH with staff in attendance and Cuddy over seeing it. In the opener Cuddy confronts House about him not speaking to Wilson for two months, she seems to be putting the blame, rightly or wrongly, at his door. House says he was giving Wilson space to grieve but Cuddy doesn’t buy it and now that Wilson is back wants House to go to him ASAP. It seems likely that neither House nor Wilson was in a rush to speak with each other with emotions still raw and apprehensions about how they would be received high. Anytime on the spoilers carrie. I’ve been dousing myself in them so I’m happy to answer any question.

Chipmunk_love- 08-27-2008

Okay, maybe I'm confused or just having been reading that closely. I get that it seems to be Wilson's first day back, is it also House's? Or has he been back for a bit?

filex1410- 08-27-2008

I haven't seen any specific clarification on it being House's first day back Chipper. But it doesn't seem like it. He's doing his usual thing, hanging out in Coma guy's room, avoiding Cuddy and cases (in the guise of Foreman).

LightMyCandle- 08-27-2008

Now if Wilson insisted on a real date before he came back, that would be funny. Well, Wilson's not as easy as Cameron, but then again, who is? Sorry, I couldn't resist. :oops: I think it more like he’s mix acid with his morning brew. There is always that possibility. It's best not to take anything he says wrt ships seriously, because it's likely that the exact opposite will wind up happening. How does the man still have a job when he's so consistantly wrong about these things? Or is he closer to the mark with other shows? I don't think Cameron would sleep with Wilson even if she were single, I don't think they really like each other that much, YMMV.

filex1410- 08-27-2008

I don't think Cameron would sleep with Wilson even if she were single, I don't think they really like each other that much, YMMV. I would agree. We may have been able to say that they had turned the corner a little ways if we'd had their scene in W's H (still bitter) but since that technically doesn't exsist, unless we get to hear about it now after the fact, then S5 E1 will be their first civil moment in quite awhile. It seems clear that their coming together now is about one trying to help the other thru a shared experience not a shared attraction.

Ariadne- 08-27-2008

You don't have to like someone to sleep with them. Sex is sex, especially when it's to blot out the pain of living. Less messy than cutting, mostly. I think they like each other (Cameron is the only duckling Wilson ever mentored or told anything personal to and there's been references that they talk off screen) but I can't see them sleeping together now. Wilson is still in love with Amber and Cameron said that he can't get away from it so comfort sex wouldn't work. If she didn't cheat with Joe who she loved, she's not going to cheat with Wilson. Well, Wilson's not as easy as Cameron, but then again, who is? Since as far as we know the only people Cameron has ever slept with in her life are her dead husband and Chase, I'd say everyone on the show is, except maybe Chase. 8) House thinks Wilson is that easy. I wonder if that's got him worried about Cameron spending so much time there when Wilson won't let him in.

LightMyCandle- 08-27-2008

It seems clear that their coming together now is about one trying to help the other thru a shared experience not a shared attraction. Agreed, if it wasn't for their situations being similar, they wouldn't be hanging out. I think they like each other (Cameron is the only duckling Wilson ever mentored or told anything personal to and there's been references that they talk off screen) Yeah, but he's also sort of picked on/made fun of her behind her back a couple of times, he only told her one personal thing and she opened up to him first and that was during this odd stretch in S2, where they did seem like they could be friends, but all that went away and then S3 happened, and I don't buy any kind of great fondness for each other. Since as far as we know the only people Cameron has ever slept with in her life are her dead husband and Chase, I'd say everyone on the show is, excep maybe Chase. First of all, I was just kidding, second of all, she would have pounced on House so fast it would make your head spin, if he had ever given her half the chance, she might not now, but there was a time. Plus she's also the only one (besides Chase) who has had sex at work and makes comments like being fine with threesomes.

Lully- 08-27-2008

Since as far as we know the only people Cameron has ever slept with in her life are her dead husband and Chase Don't get mad at me Ariadne... But why would someone think that??? When her husband died he took the key of her chastity belt to the grave? And Chase was the only one able to break the padlock? Cameron is a perfectly healthy young woman, sex is a perfectly healthy act. She was not a nun, she is an independent woman. Sex certainly was part of her life after (and probably before) her husband's death and Chase's arrival. I can not even think about the idea of Wilson and Cameron together! She's visiting him because she can share with him a painful experience. It's therapeutic for both of them. I don't think House is worried if Wilson is easy or not right now (though he seems very much interested about who he has been seeing). He's too much focused on how to prevent him to leave. He seems upset about all of them Foreman, Cuddy and Cameron and it's not about jealousy this time.

fffaw- 08-27-2008

Don't get mad at me Ariadne... But why would someone think that??? When her husband died he took the key of her chastity belt to the grave? And Chase was the only one able to break the padlock? Cameron is a perfectly healthy young woman, sex is a perfectly healthy act. She was not a nun, she is an independent woman. Sex certainly was part of her life after (and probably before) her husband's death and Chase's arrival. Actually, Ariadne is right - She said "As far as we know" According to *canon*, those are the only two people we know for sure that she's slept with. I'm guessing, of course, she slept with other people who we may hear about later, but according to show canon right now, it's just those two.

Lully- 08-27-2008

Okay... Maybe it's a YMMV, but there's a lot of things we can not see and yet we know it's canon - sadly none occur to me right now... :roll: It's canon that the only two people we know Cameron had sex were Chase and her husband (and who knows, her husband was so ill, maybe he couldn't?), the others are unknown. This is not the same to say that in her entire life she only have sex with those two men, since this was never stated in canon either.

fffaw- 08-27-2008

We only have canon to go on. And by definition, if it's not on the show, it's not actually canon. Ariadne wasn't saying that Cameron never had sex with any other men. She was making a joke based on canon. Someone said Cameron was easy, but since we have only been told that she slept with those two, Ariadne was saying that most of the other characters except Chase were "easier" based on what we know about their sex lives in terms of canon.

Lully- 08-27-2008

How did I end up discussing Cam's sex life? :lol: By this idea, Cuddy only had sex with House once - and that's debatable! House only had sex with Cuddy (debatable), Stacy and maybe, maybe Paula, the hooker. Foreman: the drug rep and Wendy and Wilson with his wives, Grace and Amber (he really is a slut!). I just don't think it's realistic. I know, it's Houseland... but even so I need to put at least a little realism in there. I'm not discussing what canon is, but there are some things we don't need to hear or see to know they are there. Anyway, virginal!Cameron is incomprehensible to me - and maybe I misinterpret Ariadne's post (and I'm sorry if I did) but "the only people Cameron has ever slept with in her life" seems pretty definite for me.

fffaw- 08-27-2008

and maybe I misinterpret Ariadne's post (and I'm sorry if I did) but "the only people Cameron has ever slept with in her life" seems pretty definite for me. Yeah, you're misinterpreting her comment she said "As far as we know the only people Cameron has ever slept with in her life..." And realistically, yeah, they've probably all schtupped around like bunnies and maybe we'll hear about it in the future, but for the purpose of canon - Canon, in terms of a fictional universe, is any material that is considered to be "genuine", or can be directly referenced as material produced by the original author or creator of a series. - that's all the partners we know that Cameron had. No one is saying anything about virginal Cameron - I don't know how you got that impression. She was making a JOKE. What is realistic or what we think is not necessarily canon, you know? I personally believe that House is bisexual and that he and Wilson have probably gotten drunk and messed around before, but it ain't canon (yet!) ;-)