Add me to those that would love it if Birthmarks is just about H/W and forget PPTH and a medical mystery for one week. Sorry if my take on what might happen with the respect to the spoiler brought folks down, I didn’t think anyone would pay that much attention. No need to worry about my thoughts or apprehensions. I do agree with all LMC’s posts the last two pages on why we’re looking at the spoiler in that light but it shouldn’t ruin anyone else’s feelings about it. By all means let’s hear as many alternate theories as possible. If House were only to have an understanding of Wilson’s loss because his Mother is now dead well that would seem to diminish his Mother’s death a little. I don’t think people learn from death as much as they have to get thru it. Often people want to reevaluate their life, not take things for granted, have a better outlook, etc., but unless the death alters their day-to–day living, unless it’s someone who was a real part of their life who is now gone (and sometimes regardless if that's the case), they usually just return to how they were living before even if it’s with some regret that they can’t change who and what they are. Maybe that will be what happens for House both with Amber and his Mother’s death. I would think that would be disappointing but some might see it otherwise. I’m not sure if it will only be Wilson who thinks that House should take some warning from the events surrounding Amber’s death without anyone actually blaming him. They all may to varying degrees have to work both sides of the street, alleviating the guilt House seemed to express but asking him to see that he might think better of his behavior in the future. Wilson may feel his own guilt about Amber. He may even briefly feel anger at her too. The idea that it could be a military honor for John House and not a death is a great idea. (ETA, I think one or two may have mentioned a similar possibilty earlier on the discussion.) Of course a train or a shuttle flight to DC would be more sensible than driving. Any thoughts on why if they are traveling any distance H/W would drive rather than use other modes of available transportation? Besides of course TPTB desire to keep them in a small, confined space on their own for an extended period of time. Which totally works for me. :D

I’m not sure if it will only be Wilson who thinks that House should take some warning from the events surrounding Amber’s death without anyone actually blaming him. They all may to varying degrees have to work both sides of the street, alleviating the guilt House seemed to express but asking him to see that he might think better of his behavior in the future. Well, that's a possibility, I guess I'm just so used to seeing everyone defend him to the grave, it's hard for me to imagine anyone other than Wilson approaching him with anything other than a "It's not your fault" attitude, except maybe Foreman but he doesn't really care. I guess we'll see. Not that they should attack him and blame him, but I think there is a lesson to be learned here and not just for him, for Wilson too. Wilson may feel his own guilt about Amber. I think he will be feeling his own guilt too. Any thoughts on why if they are traveling any distance H/W would drive rather than use other modes of available transportation? Besides of course TPTB desire to keep them in a small, confined space on their own for an extended period of time. Which totally works for me. Actually, that's the main reason why I think Blythe has kicked the bucket. Maybe House wants to delay getting there as much as possible so he can spend a minimal time with his father and have Wilson there as support since his mother's not around for that anymore. If it's not a funeral (the honor award idea kind of makes sense and I can see House going if his mother really wants him there) then it could just be House or Wilson or both seeing it as a chance to spend uninterrupted time together to really work things out. They can't exactly run from each other when they're stuck in the same car together.

I think I'd like to see this road trip as House taking care of Wilson. What if House is going to some ceremony honoring his dad, and what if House and Wilson had somewhat patched up their relationship by this point already? Maybe Wilson's still not himself yet...down in the dumps, depressed (as we know he's already predisposed to). Maybe House takes him on this trip to distract him/keep him company, further re-establish their friendship. I'd love to see House taking care of Wilson instead of the usual Wilson taking care of House routine.

Something had been bugging me about those pictures. I just went back, and I was right. The ones that look like House and Wilson, as opposed to HL and RSL, there is no cane to be found. Now, it could be they were in between shots when the pics were done, but......

NightOwl wrote: I would love for them to break formula so we could get an hour of just House and Wilson on that road trip. Oh, totally! Though I doubt they'd do it, I can dream about it for awhile... Carrie wrote: His parents are from CA aren't they? What? How do we know that? Namaste wrote: We know they had a nine hour layover in Newark, according to "Daddy's Boy," so its somewhere that would normally be a plane ride's distance from Princeton. I always assumed they are doing a connection in Newark to Europe. So they probably lived near that area. If they lived in California they could have a direct flight. filey wrote: I’m not sure if it will only be Wilson who thinks that House should take some warning from the events surrounding Amber’s death without anyone actually blaming him. You know what I'd love to see? Wilson actually not blaming him, at least not in an angry, resentful way, that seems to be the reaction everyone is expecting from him, House specially. For some reason I think a resigned, but closed, Wilson is much more likely than a revengeful one, but it's probably just me. The only other person I can see blaming House openly is Foreman - from the final scene in WH we know that Cuddy is all over House, so I don't expect to hear any warnings from her, though I'd love if they surprised me. The idea that it could be a military honor for John House and not a death is a great idea. Of course a train or a shuttle flight to DC would be more sensible than driving. Any idea that saves me from a funeral is great! And I said this with all the love in the world! :kiss: Maybe it's House's idea to go there by car? So they can spend more time alone and talk - a real conversation? They are definitively on speaking terms, but perhaps not completely comfortable around each other, yet. Carrie wrote: I'd love to see House taking care of Wilson instead of the usual Wilson taking care of House routine. Me too and that's why the "parent's death" do not work for me - as an speculation only! If this gets some confirmation later, I can adapt my POV :wink:

I have no idea where I came up with the CA thing...too much fanfic I guess! LOL

I think I'd like to see this road trip as House taking care of Wilson. What if House is going to some ceremony honoring his dad, and what if House and Wilson had somewhat patched up their relationship by this point already? Maybe Wilson's still not himself yet...down in the dumps, depressed (as we know he's already predisposed to). Maybe House takes him on this trip to distract him/keep him company, further re-establish their friendship. I like that idea. If it is a ceremony for his dad and his mom talks him into coming, I'd like it if House isn't comfortable leaving Wilson behind, because he's still depressed and because they're not totally fine with each other yet, so he gets him to go with him to keep an eye on him and to continue mending their relationship. I'd love to see House taking care of Wilson. If he didn't take him, I can see House just obsessing over him the entire time and calling a lot. For some reason I think a resigned, but closed, Wilson is much more likely than a revengeful one, but it's probably just me. Well, I don't think Wilson will be vengeful really. I can see him as very resigned and even more closed off than usual. I still think he'll be angry with House but I don't think he's going to seek him out and yell at him or anything, I think he'll avoid him. I really do want to see House make the first move and I'd have a lot of respect for that because personally, if I were House, I would be terrified to approach Wilson, YMMV.

travIncarrie wrote: I think I'd like to see this road trip as House taking care of Wilson. What if House is going to some ceremony honoring his dad, and what if House and Wilson had somewhat patched up their relationship by this point already? Maybe Wilson's still not himself yet...down in the dumps, depressed (as we know he's already predisposed to). Maybe House takes him on this trip to distract him/keep him company, further re-establish their friendship. I'd love to see House taking care of Wilson instead of the usual Wilson taking care of House routine. I like the idea of House taking care of Wilson, too. I think the fly in the ointment here, though, is John House, assuming R. Lee Ermey isn’t just playing a stiff in a coffin. Can you imagine what he’s going to say to House, when he finds out, and I can’t believe that he won’t, that House was instrumental in Amber’s death? Personally, I think House felt enormously guilty at setting off the chain of events that led to Amber dying and should his father weigh in -- that House Snr. would play the blame game seems all too feasible -- makes me wonder if House would then implode and Wilson would be left to pick up the pieces. This state of affairs might also provide Wilson with some key insights into House’s past.

The initial reports of the road trip did say this In response to a fan’s question about House’s mysterious past, Jacobs replied that in Season Five, “there will be a road trip with House and Wilson that will reach into House’s past.”.

Hmmm. A discussion in the season Three section mentioning the song "Walter Reed," used in "Fools For Love," got me thinking about another bit of speculation wank ... what if John House gets his son to investigate a case involving a buddy of his at Walter Reed Medical Center in D.C.? OK, maybe that belongs in the crack thread, but ... It's driving distance for a road trip, has a medical case and John House involvement.

An interesting speculation, Namaste. It's a 3.5-hour drive from Princeton to DC. Quite possible.

Back in the episode when House's parents were briefly in Princeton and simply wanted to have dinner with him he tried to avoid them completely and was practically forced into eating a quick meal in the hospital cafeteria with them. I can't believe that he would drive all the way to Washington to attend some honor for his father. I can barely believe he'd bother to attend the old man's funeral.