Reality is Almost Always Wrong: Spoiler Discussion Thread

That's been the plot of several episodes, Sex Kills and No Reason come to mind first, and House has never needed a PI to confirm it before. He's been clever enough to figure it out for himself. Yes, I know that. Posters think it's unethical for House to involve a PI in a medical case. So I was just throwing the infidelity out there as an example of how House could use a PI to investigate the patient in a way that doesn't involve disclosing any medical information to the PI. There are certainly other circumstances in which House could use a PI without disclosing medical information; this was just the first example that came to mind (and that has often been relevant in other episodes). :idea: If House is using the PI to investigate a patient, then either House feels it is no longer worth using his team's time to do the investigation or this particular patient is so good at covering his tracks that House thinks it's wise to hire a pro. I'm sure there is some other possible option as to why he hires a PI, but I don't see any other possibilities right now.

I'm sure there is some other possible option as to why he hires a PI, but I don't see any other possibilities right now. Cuddy forces him to stop using the team for break-ins after one of them has a brush with the law, and hiring the PI is his way of getting around the order. The patient isn't originally from the area, or recently spent a great deal of time outside the area ... let's say Chicago, just for a hypothetical example ... and House needs someone to check out the residence/hotel/dorm/bed & breakfast/whorehouse immediately and hires a PI to do it, then is impressed enough with what the guy came up with he decides to test him on other cases, including his teams' background. The PI is already investigating one of House's patients for a completely different reason ... say a divorce case ... and has information that House thinks is vital to his diagnosis. The spouse, when their loved one becomes ill, wants to then call off the PI, but House thinks the PI is onto something and hires him in the spouse's place to continue the investigation.

Is it just me, or is anyone else frustrated with the idea of ANOTHER new character?

Is it just me, or is anyone else frustrated with the idea of ANOTHER new character? It's definitely not just you. I think any Chase or Cameron fan you talk to would tell you they're not keen on the idea of ANOTHER character taking up time and space that could be better used to follow up on TPTB's promises (lies?) to reintegrate Chase and Cameron back into significant parts. They need to figure out how to use the cast they've got before they screw around with bringing on another character for the sake of a spin-off. Given the Tritter arc and how it got a little overbearing and silly, I'm not too trusting of how they'll handle yet another investigator locking horns with House. Or I assume he'll lock horns with House. Who doesn't lock horns with House? Or maybe the PI will be House's new best friend since Wilson and House will have "bad blood" between them. :roll:

I'm sure there is some other possible option as to why he hires a PI, but I don't see any other possibilities right now. Cuddy forces him to stop using the team for break-ins after one of them has a brush with the law, and hiring the PI is his way of getting around the order. The patient isn't originally from the area, or recently spent a great deal of time outside the area ... let's say Chicago, just for a hypothetical example ... and House needs someone to check out the residence/hotel/dorm/bed & breakfast/whorehouse immediately and hires a PI to do it, then is impressed enough with what the guy came up with he decides to test him on other cases, including his teams' background. The PI is already investigating one of House's patients for a completely different reason ... say a divorce case ... and has information that House thinks is vital to his diagnosis. The spouse, when their loved one becomes ill, wants to then call off the PI, but House thinks the PI is onto something and hires him in the spouse's place to continue the investigation. Yes, to me, all of this falls under one of the options I stated: House feels it is not worth using his team's time to do the investigation.... because the patient is from outside the area or because there is already a PI on the patient's tail. Either way, it's more efficient to use the PI rather than his own team. :lol:

Cuddy forces him to stop using the team for break-ins after one of them has a brush with the law, and hiring the PI is his way of getting around the order. This actually would have been my first guess. Sort of unfortunate, since the break-ins are often good opportunities to get the duckling points of view on situations and character bits, but those scenes can just as easily happen in a lab or lounge, or in their patient interactions. I got it that it's better a stranger than one of them (barely), I got it that the PI works for money and will do everything for what he's being paid - though still bothers me that he has a licence to break the law * yes, yes, I'm that naive! * - but if he got caught breaking some patient's house, how the hospital would explain that one of their doctors has a professional to do that? Technically, I don't believe private investigators do have any kind of license to break into homes, etc. They can surveil others, take photographs, interview people (including interviewing while pretending to be someone else), dig up information via records. Still, he could easily be more skilled than the fellows at talking his way into a place where he shouldn't be, and if he's a desperate guy (or just one who likes a challenge), maybe he's willing to go along with the B&Es. (Or alternatively, the show will just pretend he is allowed to do those things. ) :lol:

No no, PIs definitely do not have a special license granting them the right to do things that are illegal. :lol: They are private citizens. As vitawash said, the point is that they are smooth about working the system and know how to get things done. (Often, they are former police detectives.) They generally operate within the confines of the law, but maybe once in a while they call in a favor with an old buddy at the precinct, etc. My point about being willing to go on B&Es for the money is simply that he's willing to take the risk--in order to get paid--because he knows how to do it smoothly... minimizing the chances at getting caught. It's worth the risk to him. And if House chose him, then he probably is willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done.

I guess what's really the most intriguing to me is the fact that he's investigating his team in this manner, as well. I can't quite figure out if he has suspicions about them or doesn't trust his own intuitions anymore. If we were able to figure this out, it may give us insight into why he's using the PI to go after his patients. Ooh...random crack thought -- maybe he gets a patient with the last name of Wilson, and suspects him to be LLB. If he's unconscious, he can't confirm whether or not he's LLB. Maybe he hasn't made up with Wilson yet, or doesn't want to get his hopes up about finding family so soon after Amber's death (hitting a guy when he's down). Also, he could feel it's none of the team's business what's going on within the Wilson family, so he hires a PI to do the non-medical digging into this patient's life to get a confirmed answer. Totally crack, and probably wrong, but, as House would say...it fits. Doesn't explain the going after the team, though. Oh well.

I guess what's really the most intriguing to me is the fact that he's investigating his team in this manner, as well. I can't quite figure out if he has suspicions about them or doesn't trust his own intuitions anymore. If we were able to figure this out, it may give us insight into why he's using the PI to go after his patients. Well I don't think he likes the 3 newbies very much. House doesn't hate them but I think he would prefer his original team. The spoiler said co-workers and team, so that would include Cuddy and Wilson? Maybe EBS caused some significant cognitive deficits. This was mentioned when Foreman was describing the conditions of House and Amber. I'm trying to figure out where House would get the money to pay for a PI. Why isn't Cuddy hiring the PI? Weird. I'm a regular viewer of SVU and the only episodes they've ever done that I hated were about Olivia's brother. Main reason? didn't like the actor and now he's coming to House :( Does anyone know how long the PI arc will last?

Hmm, in the YT videos posted on the spoiler thread, Hugh mentioned that they'd just finished shooting House's 90th episode. WH was the 86th, so I guess that means they're on 5.05. I wonder if they'll do anything special for the 100th (which would be 5.14, I guess). As for the PI... I'm reserving judgement. I still trust the show and it's not like he'll be another regular. Going back to the books now...

Okay the spoiler said that House hires a PI. Where does House get the money to pay the PI?

Okay the spoiler said that House hires a PI. Where does House get the money to pay the PI? Well...the hospital covers all of his medical costs (presumably), he rarely pays for his own lunch, when he's at home he only eats soup and peanut butter sandwiches, he's a selfish bastard who never buys presents for anyone...I'm going to say the dude's loaded.

Oh dear god...just watched some of the videos from the panel that were posted in the Hugh thread. TPTB sure do love themselves some 13. Not only do we get the sheer joy of some direct compare/contrast between how House and 13 carry on with their various disabilities but she's floated as relationship material? Not that I think they would ever go there, but they are seriously all about the plug and play mentality of character development, aren't they? I was hoping that all the redundancies that we witnessed in S4 might have had some larger point, but I can no longer fathom that they do. So sad.

but she's floated as relationship material? Not that I think they would ever go there Yeah, I'm sure they're not serious with that. I think it's pretty clear that House's romance next season is going to be with Cuddy, and while there will be (hopefully) two more seasons after that, Cuddy and 13 or Cameron in S5 is just too much for House. For a show that has spent four years building up all these ships and has yet to really make any of them canon, taking care of two in one season would cheapen both ships involved, JMO. 13 is like Foreman to me, she doesn't bother me with her presence so I don't care what storyline they give her because I've learned that watching someone I'm indifferent to is far more preferable to watching someone I hate, YMMV.

13 is like Foreman to me, she doesn't bother me with her presence so I don't care what storyline they give her because I've learned that watching someone I'm indifferent to is far more preferable to watching someone I hate, YMMV. And like Foreman, I think 13 is also actually asexual. :D I mean, seriously, does anyone actually see her in a romantic relationship with anyone? Yeah...no.

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