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Chipmunk_love- 05-12-2008

I think what may cause the rift is if House treats Amber solely as another puzzle, even though she so clearly is not. If he refuses to see her or if she dies before House gets a diagnosis, he'll want an autopsy performed on her -- Wilson might think enough is enough. This is the first time that Wilson has been on the "family of the patient" side of House's processes; House may inadvertently treat him as he does every other case: accuse him of lying, send his team to break into their apartment, etc. Though Wilson hasn't always supported the diagnoses that House leaps to, he (to my memory) has never really shot down his methods of leaping to such conclusions.

filex1410- 05-12-2008

I think any sign that Amber and Wilson are staying the course, which they obviously are at the end of LTD, may be enough to set a currently undistracted (no Soap Stud), drunk House off on a vitriolic diatribe. Certainly if it's either marriage or pregnancy as you say LMC, it will be a real barn burner. ETA, I think Wilson would be fine with House doing anything, short of risking his own health, that he has to to get to the answer. House's methods maybe objectionable but the usually get results. If House is cold and situation as usual after Amber dies as if she's no one to him, which of course she is unless you count a threat, and/or he doesn't spare a real moment to recognize and ease Wilson's grief, prepare to see Wilson turn on his heels and walk away from House. ETAA, But before he walks out on House Wilson could be so furious as to say to House, Why are you still alive and she's dead. You who has cared so little if you live or die, you're still here and Amber who was so hopeful for her and our future she's gone. It should have been you House. :cry:

cindylouwho- 05-12-2008

I think what may cause the rift is if House treats Amber solely as another puzzle, even though she so clearly is not. If he refuses to see her or if she dies before House gets a diagnosis, he'll want an autopsy performed on her -- Wilson might think enough is enough. This is the first time that Wilson has been on the "family of the patient" side of House's processes; House may inadvertently treat him as he does every other case: accuse him of lying, send his team to break into their apartment, etc. Though Wilson hasn't always supported the diagnoses that House leaps to, he (to my memory) has never really shot down his methods of leaping to such conclusions. He might even push for it especially if he thinks its environmental. He will be doing it FOR Wilson, to protect him, and his ends might not justify the means in the eyes of Wilson.

idonmatrix- 05-12-2008

If House is cold and situation as usual after Amber dies as if she's no one to him, which of course she is unless you count a threat, and/or he doesn't spare a real moment to recognize and ease Wilson's grief, prepare to see Wilson turn on his heels and walk away from House. ETAA, But before he walks out on House Wilson could be so furious as to say to House, Why are you still alive and she's dead. You who has cared so little if you live or die, you're still here and Amber who was so hopeful for her and our future she's gone. It should have been you House. :cry: filex this is exactly what I think will happen in the end after the big reveal. House has already 3 near death experiences if you exclude the tainted blood one - but add the three or four he'll have in the current episode, then I could see Wilson being really angry that they spared the House who has so little to offer in terms of a relationship (the one who always wants to be the center of Wilson's attention (LTD - H/W mattress scene) and let the one die who made Wilson happy and wanted Wilson to take care of himself.

filex1410- 05-12-2008

Not to mention the one the he blatantly did in 97 Secs, when Amber brought him back. She saved him one of those times whne he didn't care what happen to himself. I can not begin to wrap my mind around all of the spec/spoilers of the promo. Will we learn later that House went to drink on his own and Wilson joined him at some point. The scene in H's H has only the bartender, no extras, there is more there than House remembered and maybe Wilson admitted?

Chipmunk_love- 05-12-2008

That whole last part, where we see Wilson and Cuddy reviving him, at first made me think that we were seeing bar flashbacks - House pounding on the table, and...House and Amber kissing??? It was interesting that Wilson kept wondering if House could lie while under hypnosis. Maybe something happened that normally he would know to lie about?

LightMyCandle- 05-12-2008

Will we learn later that House went to drink on his own and Wilson joined him at some point. The scene in H's H has only the bartender, no extras, there is more there than House remembered and maybe Wilson admitted? Okay, either Wilson is lying (which I still don't believe he is, he wasn't acting like he was hiding anything during the hypnosis, just curious about what was going on) or maybe at the end of next week after Amber dies, they're at a bar getting drunk (one's already there, I'm guessing Wilson if that's the case) and a fight ensues. Oh, yeah, I don't believe House and Amber were having an affair but if they did, I'll have to throttle the both of them. But I really don't think they did. I think House's concern for Amber was more concern for what it would do to Wilson.

filex1410- 05-12-2008

That whole last part, where we see Wilson and Cuddy reviving him, at first made me think that we were seeing bar flashbacks - House pounding on the table, and...House and Amber kissing??? I think it may have been both, House in the bar maybe arguing with someone (Wilson) and I thought the H/A kiss was actually House flashing back on Amber reviving him in 97 Secs so that's the final moment he knows it's her and then back to Wilson & Cuddy reviving him in the present. It was interesting that Wilson kept wondering if House could lie while under hypnosis. Maybe something happened that normally he would know to lie about?Especially if we find out that Wilson did meet House at that bar at some point and he didn't mention it so he was also lying. House must have been upset about something to take off and drink at 5:20pm. Wilson follows him and tries to find out what's up but House is beligerent and Wilson gives up and leaves. So Wilson may never have found out why House was upset and was trying to while he was hypnotized. Unless perhaps Wilson never was at the bar with House until they go back there in W's H to help House remember more. The photos make the palce look like only they are in there but there may be people (extras) we don't see. House may have just been getting drunk on his own after all. Wilson may suspect that House and Amber were rendevousing although I don't believe that. Still no idea on why Amber got on that bus. :evil: It looks like House will be to ill to go drinking next week. But perhaps they fight while going back looking for clues. People (well, Taub) think House and Amber were having an affair becasue we don't know why they were on the bus together, that's just a jump to a conclusion. But House is either worried it's true when he has hallucinations of Amber and him or Amber is a stand in for someone else, something else, his desire to be with Wilson or to get rid of Amber? Flailing!!

Chipmunk_love- 05-12-2008

Let's talk about Amber's leg injury for a moment. If she is the female House, is Wilson the male Stacy? Will Wilson have to make the same sort of call for her that Stacy did for House? I realize they're different injuries completely, but they have to be similar for a reason. I know we think she's going to kick the bucket, but I would love to see House try to explain to Amber why amputation would be her best and perhaps only option. Poetic justice, as it were.

Taiga- 05-12-2008

That it would be. We've been debating what the friendship test will be and thinking it would be Wilson being angry with House. What if it's the other way around? What if Wilson pushes House too hard to risk himself to save Amber, and House thinks (correctly or wrongly) that Wilson values Amber's life over his? ETA No way were House and Amber having an affair, so maybe Wilson accuses him of that and House gets angry about that.

Bessie Mae- 05-12-2008

So, the dying thing is speculation, not spoiler?

Sister Trixi- 05-12-2008

I don't think House and Amber are having an affair. Amber is suppossed to be House's proxy, right? I think it would be too weird if House were sleeping with himself. Too much Freud and Jung for me to understand. The scene where Amber is stradling House is I think, a hallucination--not a flashback. What the hell was Amber doing on the bus??!! How will I get through the next week?

cindylouwho- 05-12-2008

That it would be. We've been debating what the friendship test will be and thinking it would be Wilson being angry with House. What if it's the other way around? What if Wilson pushes House too hard to risk himself to save Amber, and House thinks (correctly or wrongly) that Wilson values Amber's life over his? ETA No way were House and Amber having an affair, so maybe Wilson accuses him of that and House gets angry about that. That is what it looked like in the promo; that Wilson wants House to "sacrifice" to save her. If that really is true, then we have the friendship on the line we were looking for. Word to Chipmunk_love for the Stacy/Wilson & House/Amber parallels. It's going to be a long week.

Taiga- 05-12-2008

Bessie Mae, Amber's death is speculation. There's no spoiler about it. But think of the angst. Wilson chooses Amber's life over House's, House accepts that, then Amber dies anyway... how would their friendship survive? How could House deal with knowing Wilson would rather he were dead instead of Amber?

LightMyCandle- 05-12-2008

Gosh, that promo is freaking addictive. I can't stop watching it. Poor Wilson. Poor House. Poor Amber. Wilson was hugging Cuddy so I'm assuming that her visit to his office isn't just a guilt trip. I'm not so sure about Wilson accusing House of having an affair. I don't believe House would do that to Wilson but I can understand being suspicious. As far as Wilson has known House hates Amber and now suddenly they're on a bus together? And in his grief and anger I can see the accusation is possible but Taub's the only one who mentioned it in the promo and if House himself is doubting whether or not it happened, why wouldn't Wilson? But Amber's awake at some point, so hopefully she can (truthfully) clear it up. But Wilson asking House to risk his life for Amber? Freaking intense and of course House will do it, but I think he'll be hurt (I mean emotionally) by it and Amber will die anyway, which would lead to a lot of tension between House and Wilson on both sides. And I've gotta know if House's "I'm so sorry" is addressed to Wilson or Amber. If it's Wilson then I'm betting it will be after Amber dies.