Thanks idon. But my point is this: Flickr is just a photo-sharing site than anyone can use, right? The photos are not on the Foxflash page; they have only appeared in people's personal blogs/photo-sharing sites. So it's possible that they were not supposed to be released, but someone released them to a friend, and the friend shared, etc.... And if that's the case, then Amber very well could be the mystery patient. But if the photos were indeed officially released, then I don't think Amber is the mystery patient.

Or 13 & Foreman...gag. No, not Wilson! That's not even a possibility is it? Durn it if he doesn't take antidepressants though. Big cliff hanger...House quits! LOL Actually that might not be implausible...if he loses his belief in his medical abilities, he just might (would tie into what Chipper was saying about belief).

You guys have been busy while I've been at work! I've never doubted that House trusts Chase, he trusts all his ducklings, but I don't see how allowing Chase to hypnotize him tells us that he luvs Chase or something. Chase may be the only person available and willing to hypnotize House, or he may prefer Chase to a stranger, and even then I've seen people hypnotized by complete strangers before. I don't think it's proof of anything except how desperate House is to regain his memory. So a car is involved in the accident? Will we find out that Amber or even House was in the car? I can't accept that one was in the bus and one in the car, it's too big a coincidence. My (joke) nominations for jaw-dropping cliffhangers are that Chase is having an affair with Thirteen, Cameron is having an affair with Thirteen, House fathers two children while in a coma, or Cuddy is pregnant with twins by both House and Foreman. I like the idea of House getting the yips and having to overcome them, but we saw him lose a patient in 'Housetraining' due to a misdiagnosis and he didn't get them then. So why would he now, when it's a concussion that's the cause?

Oh, marykir just uploaded the latest promo, which shows more of the woman in the bus (someone mentioned that up-thread). I think it's definitely Amber.

Some thought on some of your thoughts and a few of my own. The bus accident happens at night, in the ER Wilson says you think seeing the symptom happened "last night", so they are in the ER early in the morning of the next day. To me this time line is rather confusing... How long take House to return to PPTH from the crash site? It takes them about 8 hours to begin to suture him? Or he was left to last because there were others with more serious injuries? And in the scene with the fellows, and then with Chase, it seems night again... :? I think Amber was taken to another hospital and a possible reason why Wilson may not have contacted her is because she was supposed to be out of town? From the futon critic synopsis for H’s H: House finds himself dazed, confused and covered in blood after surviving a bus accident that left dozens seriously injured. House left the bus and wandered away after the accident and into the strip club most likely passing out at a table of bar, not atypical patron behavior in those places. He comes to, sees he has blood on him and walks outside to see the bus accident. No telling how long he was in the club, hours could have passed, by the time he gets to PPHT and all the other victims were sorted. Wilson says there were 30 victims, likely that Amber either wander away as House did and was found elsewhere and brought to another hospital sans ID, it might not even have been understood that she was from the bus crash. Or she was on the bus but sent to another hospital 30 patients would be more than they would send all at once to one hospital. On the fox site is a longer version of the Cam-stitches-House clip: House: Why was I taking the bus? Wilson: Cuz you were drunk. House: What if I saw someone and I followed them on from... somewhere in Princeton? Based on that, I'd say he was in the strip club and then got on the bus. Couldn’t have gotten on at the strip club because that is where the bus already crashed. House and I’m assuming Amber had to get on the bus earlier, yes House was drunk, (it sounds like maybe Wilson wasn't?) but he is saying that wasn't the reason he took the bus it was because he was following someone. It had to be someone he knew that leaves Amber. Jeez, what if he destroys his liver in one shot...boom, Wilson has to be donor but is busy with Amber dying or she's dead already and he refuses, blaming her death on House. (and of cours in the end, he does anyway because some big revelation about Amber comes out and he suddenly realizes he could lose House too.) This is crack but...maybe House goes in to liver failure (from all the vicodin and alcohol) and needs a transplant. Meanwhile Amber is brain dead from her injuries but she has a perfectly healthy liver... No. That's too much like a soap opera --even for House. Sauty that is indeed utterly ridiculous, unfathomable, crack, which scares me because I can totally see them doing it. OY VEY! :roll: On House taking so much Vicodin so rapidly he knows exactly what he’s doing, hence the excuse he makes up for Cuddy and even if he didn’t realize he has Taub there saying 4 in 40 secs House. Whoa your ponies! I think House is taking them because he’s in pain, they stitched his head but they didn’t do anything for his leg which must be screaming, he’s anxious that he can’t remember and he feels that taking all that Vicodin might numb those two things just long enough for him to recall something important as he sniffs the clothing of every victim at PPTH. Seemingly Amber's things not among them. House would remember her perfume or shampoo or something. In the Cuddy on the bus clip she tells House that the Bus Driver is his patient, she's there to try and help him remember the symptom. The Bus Driver is the Asian gentleman that we see in the FOX TV promo (see marykir’s as always brilliant screencaps), first in bed on a ventilator, later standing up supported by 13 and Foreman. I think in H’s H we and House are lead to believe he is the mystery patient but that may not be the case. The key to the big jaw dropper to me is whatever the reason that House came across Amber after he and Wilson had been out drinking and Amber got on the bus and House followed her. Where was she coming from? Why was she on the bus? ITA with NightOwl re. release of the W’s H photos those specific pics, W/A, H/Cdy at the hospital, 2 W/Cdy at the window are not currently at Fox Flash. 3 of them are at flickr and all 4 are at house daily at Live Journal. The only photo that hints of Amber being in the crash at Fox Flash is the one where Chase is defibbing her and in that it is hard to make her out clearly. ETA, the point is none of those photos are or have ever been at the network site so who knows how they have been circulated.

When FoxFlash released and then retracted the photo from "Frozen," though, it was never available for download. No one could get their hands on a full sized photo. These are all full resolution, not just thumbnails.

Couldn’t have gotten on at the strip club because that is where the bus already crashed. Yep, the director was clear that House comes to in the strip club after the crash, so the strip club visit wasn't before - it's the place closest to the accident that House wanders into. The director mentions that House leaves the strip club and sees paramedics and personnel working on accident victims and see the crash, so House was only out of it for a short time when he went wandering into the club. He couldn't have been out of it that long if, when he comes to, he goes outside and still sees the immediate aftermath of the accident. That's not the missing time - the missing time will be those four hours immediately proceeding and including the crash.

I have to disagree a flipped bus and a smashed garbage truck and damaged cars on the road, then 30 victims to remove from the bus, the amount of EMS vehicles and personnel that would be needed to get everybody out of the bus, stable and sent to hospital in a crash site of that size could take hours to deal with. We have no idea what time the crash happened likely late in the evening if Wilson and House had already been out for the night. Wilson's curfew is 11pm so he probably left around 10:30pm and House stayed behind since Wilson didn't drive him home or see him take the bus. Or perhaps if he thought Amber was working late he stayed out later so the crash could have happened anytime between approximately 11pm - 2am. House might not have made it to PPTH until dawn early that next morning. Wilson may have been called into assist with the huge trauma, his jacket is off, his sleves rolled up, he's in work mode.

Of course people should be excited at a Chase scene, I simply meant that I don't think there's a deep meaning in that it's Chase who hypnotizes House. Is it possible that House wasn't on the bus at all but simply thinks he was, that he got his injuries some other way? Or that he wasn't drinking in a bar with Wilson, that Wilson is a stand-in for someone else in House's memory?