Reality is Almost Always Wrong: Spoiler Discussion Thread

So ... perhaps Wilson, in "Wilson's Heart," is not a "real" patient, but is actually like one of the patients in House's memories/hallucinations in "Three Stories"? Is that what you're thinking, Chipmunk_love? Because that would be really interesting. Perhaps. I don't want to overdo the hallucinations, but I think that starting with LTD, and maybe even before, House will be mentally storing clues about Wilson. Things like what we've pointed out - how can Wilson stand lumpy couch but not lumpy mattress? Is Wilson massaging the back muscle or his kidneys? (And kidney pain sucks, take my word for it) That type of thing. And then, during the accident, all of that gets jumbled, and then starts coming back to him throughout the finale. I don't know. I feel quite jumbled myself.

I too am confused, which doesn't carry the same weight as everyone else's confusion since I usually confused. I also noticed that AD and ETA were not listed, which says to me that whatever their role, it's part of the cliffhanger. But I really see not reason not to list them since we'll still be very much in the dark. At this point we're all running in circles, they so have us where thet want us. :evil: Either Amber is already gone which I find hard to believe or more likely to avoid spec stuff. Re. ETA, we're not sure which episode of the finale she is in one or both. Again they have listed none of the Bus passengers as guests. So they don't list the passengers, they don't list the woman in black that helps House remember events before and during the accident and they don't list Amber. Seems to me Amber is involved some way either in the events before the accident or in the accident itself. The H/W bar scene is still important as FD is in Pt1 & 2. What if after leaving House at the bar and going home drunk again Wilson passes out and Amber heads off to find House. Don't ask me how she would manage to do that and there is some confrontation before the accident that leads House to take the bus??? Flailing badly. I'm one step away from putting Amber on the bus but that's nuts to me..so no, maybe, UGH!!! ETA, I agree with Chipper, If i'm understanding her, I don't know anymore, that Wilson is still a patient it's just House has to sort out the clues about him that he will have accumulated from LTD and their bar scene from the clues about the passenger's illness from while he was on the bus right before the accident. Is that what you meant Chipmunk_love?

I feel quite jumbled myself. Me too. I've been having laptop problems the past two days and have felt very out of sorts and off-balance. I still think it's a very interesting idea -- something that could fit in quite strongly with the "Three Stories" motif and David Shore's assertion of "House, but affectionate" theme. :D

I still think the House but sweet description was only about the custody battle in NMMNG and not the whole H/W/A arc. But that's just me. The finale doesn't seem to leave a lot of room for sweet.

ETA, I agree with Chipper, If i'm understanding her, I don't know anymore, that Wilson is still a patient it's just House has to sort out the clues about him that he will have accumulated from LTD and their bar scene from the clues about the passenger's illness from while he was on the bus right before the accident. Is that what you meant Chipmunk_love? Yes. That's what I'm postulating.

For crying out loud, isn't that the exact same description for W's H that we've already seen? I give up guessing and I'm starting to get p*ssed off. It sounds like it's House in trouble again, God forbid we don't see House narrowly escape death at least two or three times a season, and if it's like Three Stories, that only furthers my theory that Wilson pulls a Stacy. Unless I get some seriously good news very soon, I'm debating skipping the finale altogether, it just sounds like it's going to make me angry. WHY does it always have to be House? How many times can we go through this? We get it! Move on! DAMN DAMN and 1000 more DAMNs :x :x :x :x I haven't watched 3Stories since I purchased the S1 vids. So if Wilson is Stacy does that mean Wilson is the other person House loved? Maybe we'll get to see crying!Wilson, which will probably be worth the entire episode. And since Wilson is playing Stacy, will we get to see any physical affection between House and Wilson? Will we get to see Wilson tell House he loves him? If any or all of these things are gonna happen then I withdraw every single one of my DAMNS.

For crying out loud, isn't that the exact same description for W's H that we've already seen? I give up guessing and I'm starting to get p*ssed off. It's the same description for "House's Head." What they do sometimes if there's a two parter is just write one description to cover both parts, which in this case sounds like it covers House's Head, or part 1. Note that Fred Durst is listed is a guest star for House's Head and yet he's in that description for Wilson's Heart - I doubt he'll actually be in both episodes but that they just recycled the description.

If flashbacks to the H/W bar scene are in both Pt 1 & 2 and I would guess they would be since House will still be struggling to get his memory back in W's H then FD will be in both episodes even if he ain't doing all that much.

For crying out loud, isn't that the exact same description for W's H that we've already seen? I give up guessing and I'm starting to get p*ssed off. It's the same description for "House's Head." What they do sometimes if there's a two parter is just write one description to cover both parts, which in this case sounds like it covers House's Head, or part 1. Note that Fred Durst is listed is a guest star for House's Head and yet he's in that description for Wilson's Heart - I doubt he'll actually be in both episodes but that they just recycled the description. Are you suggesting we should chillax? I'd like to but my joy has turned to dread :( I wasn't a big fan of 3 Stories but it was okay, hated No Reason and wasn't wowed by the non spectacular Human Error. So which summary is correct?

If flashbacks to the H/W bar scene are in both Pt 1 & 2 and I would guess they would be since House will still be struggling to get his memory back in W's H then FD will be in both episodes even if he ain't doing all that much.

Maybe it's like 3 Stories in the way it's filmed...flashbacks, story intermingled with reality...not necessarily mirroring the actual events in the story.

What does House not remember tht threatens his relationship with wilson?? Does Wilson know what happened before H got on the bus? And if so, why doesn't wilson tell him? Either 1) wilson doesn't know, or it is some sort of symptom, and House's subconscious won't let him remember that Wilson is sick (ie Wilson's heart) Or 2) wilson doesn't want House to remember and is keeping it from him. Or H witnessed something in Amber which he's supressing. In any case this two parter looks amazing--and may I add that the idea of a house-patient heart to heart is something that I've sorely, sorely missed.

Oh, man! Every day I come here to read the most confusing spoilers! :shock: The JS interview... Is he talking about performing a surgery on House, the show, or on House, the character? I thought he was talking about the show, but I may be mistaken... And JS sure needs a hair cut, like, yesterday! It was kind of distracting... carrie wrote: Maybe it's like 3 Stories in the way it's filmed...flashbacks, story intermingled with reality...not necessarily mirroring the actual events in the story. I thought that too, at least in the first part I guess we will have lots of flashbacks. Maybe House will replay the events over and over, until he finds his answer, or it could be like that movie Memento, and we'll start the story at the end and go back until the main event is revealed. Lots of interesting possibilities. And they really want to be all mysterious about the guest stars, don't they?

What does House not remember tht threatens his relationship with wilson?? Does Wilson know what happened before H got on the bus? And if so, why doesn't wilson tell him? Either 1) wilson doesn't know, or it is some sort of symptom, and House's subconscious won't let him remember that Wilson is sick (ie Wilson's heart) Or 2) wilson doesn't want House to remember and is keeping it from him. Or H witnessed something in Amber which he's supressing. I think Wilson may have left earlier in the evening and that some of the hours that House is missing Wilson can't account for and at the same time Wilson is not reminding House of everything that took place in their beligerent drinking at the bar because he fears that it somehow impacts their friendship. After they parted their could be some dealing between House and Amber that House also can't recall perhaps from just before he got on the bus. I like the idea that one reason House can't separate the bus passenger's symptoms from Wilson's is because House doesn't want to admit even sub-concsiously that Wilson is ill. Maybe part of the reason he misses the earliest signs in LTD. In any case this two parter looks amazing--and may I add that the idea of a house-patient heart to heart is something that I've sorely, sorely missed. I'm looking forward to the next House-Patient hear-to-heart, the one with Wilson.

like the idea that one reason House can't separate the bus passenger's symptoms from Wilson's is because House doesn't want to admit even sub-concsiously that Wilson is ill. But I thought Chase was performing surgery on House? I can't listen to the interview, so I'm just going by what I hear from the discussion. I find it hard to believe that House needs surgery and Wilson is sick. That's too much. Although, I do take back my "Wilson pulling a Stacy" theory, because it sounds like the thing that threatens their friendship happens before the bus crash. As for what that is, I really hope it involves Amber and Wilson doesn't know, because I really don't want to see Wilson lie to him again, that's only going to make it worse. Besides, I'm not really sure what they could say to each other that's so bad, it could ruin their friendship, they got passed a lot in S3 that most friendships wouldn't be able to.

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