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Sister Trixi- 04-24-2008

Because Amber is not like Wilson's ex-wives. She's not weak, she's manipulative, she's tricky, she doesn't go down without putting up a heck of a fight, she's like House. Wilson's always preferred the company of House to his wives but now that Wilson is with someone like House, House fears that Wilson won't need him anymore. I guess I see Amber differently than others. I think she's just as needy as the other wives and as needy as House. She may appear to be tough but I think on the inside she's a mess. I can't wait to see how House marginalizes Amber.

Lully- 04-24-2008

Wilson himself said that Amber is not the kind of woman that people would expect to see him dating. She's aggressive, funny, witty and he feels happy (good?) with her. The previous wives were never competition to House, and at the time I think House had others interests in his life, too. Amber is a menace because she's too much like House, she's the opposite of Wilson's "type" on the surface, but House knows that she's in fact the kind of woman who can keep Wilson's interest much longer than the others. She is needy and she's interesting. And, like House, she won't give up easily.

filex1410- 04-24-2008

I think you are spot on about why Amber is more of a threat Lully. She's a different combination of traits then seen before. Some that the wives had but ramped up a bit (after all they did all get him to marry them and stayed marry for awhile) and some that House has. That's a troubling combination as House sees it. House is also at place in his life now where he is aware of just how isolated he is, without Wilson he has no one else, nothing but his work. That doesn't seem like such a good situation anymore. About that fight. I still think that will be about something that will annoy Wilson but he won't notice that House does the same thing all the time. That's why it's so fascinating to House to hear about it. I do think that their little battles will continue in LTD, perhaps in a more subtle way and maybe get a resolution during the finale. The reason I don’t think the W/A argument will be about a trait similar to House’s is because Wilson knows what to do about those he’s been dealing with it long enough. It’s the traits that Amber shares with House that Wilson likes about her. If he tells House about something like that what can House say,” Well I do that too and you got over it.” I don’t see that making House happy because now something that bugs Wilson about Amber is going to be something House does too. I can see the point that it would mean he tolerates it in House but can't with Amber, but i still think it wouldn't be a good sign. But if the argument is about something exclusive to W/A something Amber does that bothers Wilson or vice a versa then House will see the light of day, he has just received a little upper hand. He already knows Wilson finds the "treating everything likes it’s the last copter of Saigon” thing annoying (something I don't think House shares with her) now here’s another new problem. If the problem isn’t related to him he can’t be blamed by Wilson and its nothing he has to change about himself. Wilson coming to him with it is another opportunity for House to get closer to Wilson, now House gets to be the shoulder to cry on. In the recent past when Wilson went to House to talk about the problems in his marriage w/ Julie he was harshly rebuffed by him. Now House can be sympathetic but without offering any real solution, “That’s a shame, could be a real problem, I don’t know what you can do about that. But if you need to talk I’m here for you. :D This way House has made himself available to Wilson in way he has previously said he couldn’t be and he gets to find out from Wilson all the details of what’s going wrong between him and Amber which is exactly what he wants to hear.

idonmatrix- 04-24-2008

I disagree. I think the Wamber fight is definitely about House. In the House performance review (HPR) it appears that Amber is picking Wilson up from a playdate with House. Amber wants to leave and Wilson wants to stay. I'm betting Amber goes homes sans Wilson. And I'm thinking that happens a couple of times and Wilson and Amber fight about it. I do agree though that House is going to work his knowledge of their fight to his advantage.

filex1410- 04-24-2008

Well we're not that far apart idon. I said something above that I think is similar to what you are saying. Forgive the repetition,... it doesn’t preclude W/A still having a fight about Wilson wanting to spend time with House it’s just under non-scheduled circumstances and because Wilson wants to spend time with House. That would go back to the pattern from the marriages that he ultimately went back to House because that was where he was happiest. It could also still lead to something that goes wrong prior to House getting on that Bus If that is the W/A argument then it isn't because Amber is doing something like House and annoying Wilson with it, but more that Amber is having the same difficulty that the wives had, Wilson preferring to be around House. That's not House's fault as it wasn't in the marriages, that's Wilson and Amber’s problem and that's cool with me. :wink:

Lully- 04-24-2008

Hum, these are some interesting thoughts. My mind went directly to the control issues idea, something I can see Wilson getting tired very quickly and House realizing that he must be careful with his own behaviour towards Wilson in that matter, something that before Amber I don't think he had ever considered. But yeah, the idea that she has a trait that drives Wilson crazy and he needs House to talk about it and be supportive (a real friend!), or that she is much more like the exes than Wilson could foresee, works too and yes, it may be the upper hand that House seems to need... My only problem with: “That’s a shame, could be a real problem, I don’t know what you can do about that. But if you need to talk I’m here for you." is that I can't see Wilson not being immediately suspicious about so much niceness and understanding... Yet, I can see House saying this with his most honest face... We'll have to wait and see...

filex1410- 04-24-2008

I can't see Wilson not being immediately suspicious about so much niceness and understanding... Yet, I can see House saying this with his most honest face... I can't argue with you there. :lol: I may have given House too much credit to say those or similar words, even with a touch of wryness, and Wilson to accept them coming from him, then I should. But I can see him saying something in the same way he told Wilson in Sex Kills that he was mistaken thinking House was the kind of friend he could talk to, but his time taking the opposite tack. But if House just makes himself available for Wilson to talk to him, without any obvious gloating, that would be a huge step for them. Wilson can't really expect House to help him with a solution after all relationships not exactly the man's strong suit. We'll have to wait and see... Yes we will and it's a killer.

travin1- 04-24-2008

Just a thought...so here we see House acting in a "daddy" type roll with Wilson, bouncing Wilson back and forth like a kid stuck in a custody battle. We know there's a pending Huddy next season, we know Cuddy wanted to get pregnant (at least she did a while ago)...does anyone else wonder if the writers aren't playing around with us a bit? Foreshadowing perhaps? (I'm not saying I want or don't want it to happen, but still, the parallels are there). I don't think Huddy would last forever, I see it more as an arc, but if Cuddy were to become pregnant, we could very well see this kind of custody thing with a baby.

Chipmunk_love- 04-24-2008

Just a thought...so here we see House acting in a "daddy" type roll with Wilson, bouncing Wilson back and forth like a kid stuck in a custody battle. We know there's a pending Huddy next season, we know Cuddy wanted to get pregnant (at least she did a while ago)...does anyone else wonder if the writers aren't playing around with us a bit? Foreshadowing perhaps? (I'm not saying I want or don't want it to happen, but still, the parallels are there). I don't think Huddy would last forever, I see it more as an arc, but if Cuddy were to become pregnant, we could very well see this kind of custody thing with a baby. One fellow Huddy shipper to another, I like that thought. That's not to say anyone else would see it that way. If we do get a Huddy arc next season, Cuddy's baby wishes absolutely must be addressed, regardless of whether we actually get a blue-eyed administrating misanthropic infant. :) Maybe they could have a pregnancy scare and have to talk through all their options. Since House brings up in NMMNG how miserable Cuddy is, one wonders if he would stand in the way of her dreams coming true. Not that he would necessarily advocate a termination to the pregnancy, but his level of support and involvement would come into question. Oh, well, don't want to jump the gun too much...

travin1- 04-24-2008

One fellow Huddy shipper to another, I like that thought. That's not to say anyone else would see it that way. If we do get a Huddy arc next season, Cuddy's baby wishes absolutely must be addressed, regardless of whether we actually get a blue-eyed administrating misanthropic infant. :) Maybe they could have a pregnancy scare and have to talk through all their options. Since House brings up in NMMNG how miserable Cuddy is, one wonders if he would stand in the way of her dreams coming true. Not that he would necessarily advocate a termination to the pregnancy, but his level of support and involvement would come into question. Oh, well, don't want to jump the gun too much... Agreed, it is jumping the gun. Got to thinking about it...what if Cuddy's job is on the line? She's probably got enough $ to take time off if she wanted, timing would be right. But I could also totally see them going through all the motions, talking it out, etc. only to have her miscarry (as she already has), or a false-positive pregnancy test...would be interesting to see what House would think of the whole thing though.

idonmatrix- 04-24-2008

Just a thought...so here we see House acting in a "daddy" type roll with Wilson, bouncing Wilson back and forth like a kid stuck in a custody battle. We know there's a pending Huddy next season, we know Cuddy wanted to get pregnant (at least she did a while ago)...does anyone else wonder if the writers aren't playing around with us a bit? Foreshadowing perhaps? (I'm not saying I want or don't want it to happen, but still, the parallels are there). I don't think Huddy would last forever, I see it more as an arc, but if Cuddy were to become pregnant, we could very well see this kind of custody thing with a baby. A Huddy pregnancy? I wouldn't mind as long as she loses the baby. To me, the biggest turn off about a TV drama about adults is the introduction of a mommy drama. Huddy sex is fine. It's a given. I can live with that but a baby - please, please let's not go there. But you're right, it could be the complication that DS or KJ alluded to as the aftermath of the Huddy ONS.

LightMyCandle- 04-24-2008

A Huddy pregnancy or pregnancy scare would be interesting so long as she loses the baby as idon said. I know that probably sounds horrible but babies tend to ruin shows for me anyway and House as a parent is just something I DO NOT want to see ever. But seeing them go through a miscarriage would be interesting and it would give them a bond that they truly have with no other. The only show that I think really did the baby thing well was Scrubs, and that's a sitcom and it was fine when it was just one baby now every character on that show except Elliot and Janitor has a kid and it's just way too much now. But if House just makes himself available for Wilson to talk to him, without any obvious gloating, that would be a huge step for them. If House is smart enough to play his cards right, then this could definately work to his advantage. It could go one of two ways, House will either suspect something is wrong and prod and pry until he finds out that Wilson and Amber have been fighting. OR (and I want this one) Wilson just tells House out of the blue and House is surprised because Wilson normally doesn't volunteer information like that and House can make it work to benefit him and his relationship with Wilson. It's a good situation for him because Amber is possibly getting phased out and it won't be House's fault and he will have been the supportive friend through it too. Of course that theory will probably be shot to hell once the finale comes but whatever, I'm bored.

travin1- 04-24-2008

So it IS Wilson! I really need to stop reading the spoilers. So, what could be wrong with his heart then? What does House know that he forgets. Ahhh...four and half weeks seems like eons away. I'm so tempted to say I'm done with the spoilers before I learn any more, but it's hard to keep away. So, do you think House would do something like drug Wilson to keep him from Amber...something that may affect Wilson's heart? He's dosed him before. Something that the others aren't aware of, making them think he needs surgery when he really doesn't, and House is the one with the answers, but of course can't remember? I don't know anything about medicine, don't even know if it's a possibility.

filex1410- 04-24-2008

But do they mean that literally as in Wilson is seriously ill or figuratively as in their relationship could be at an end? ETA, As for House drugging Wilson, he did do that before but that was to get information about a symptom, the onset of frequent yawning, that he saw. To purposefully do something that extreme to him in an effort to keep him from Amber seems unbalanced and ooc.

travin1- 04-24-2008

Good point...hadn't thought of it that way. Okay, that's it...I'm signing off the spoilers thread. I think :-)