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houserocket7- 04-18-2008

How did people come to believe that House and Amber hate each other? I don't think that is true at all.

idonmatrix- 04-18-2008

Maybe the secret is that Wilson was on the bus with House and when the accident happened he saved himself and left House to die I hope you're joking because there's no way Wilson would do that. No way. The title's called "Wilson's Heart." That makes it sound like Wilson's the victim, either physically, emotionally, or both, not the villian. Don't they already hate each other? Yeah, but I don't think Wilson sits at home twirling his evil mustache, pleased by that fact and I don't think he wants them to hate each other, I really don't think he wants them around each other. I think he wanst his relationship with Amber to be something that's just his (and Amber's obviously) and not something that House will force his way into (did that sound dirty? :shock: ) He went along with it in DEC because he wanted House to get it out of his system, now as far as he knows, he has. I only said that Amber and House hate each other. They're in competition for Wilson's "attention and time." There's something that I hadn't given much thouught to until your post. But when Amber went to see House at his office, she said she always had to choose between love and respect and "with Wilson I get both". I didn't realize at first she was only talking about what Wilson has to give to her - love and respect. Amber never said she was in love with Wilson. So when she was having that conversation with House, she only focused on what she could get from Wilson. We know that House loves Wilson because he told him so. Once in 97 seconds and then in a roundabout way in a Wonderful Life. And when House told her "you've changed" I was surprised but later he redeemed himself when he told Wilson that neither of them had changed. I think Amber is a narcissist who will not be denied. I think these next 4 episodes are going to be awesome.

Lully- 04-19-2008

LMC wrote: The title's called "Wilson's Heart." That makes it sound like Wilson's the victim, either physically, emotionally, or both, not the villian. Exactly! Why an episode with that title will show Wilson as the bad guy? It doesn't make sense! I was rewatching It's a Wonderful Lie and, during their conversation at the end, House said that he can tell his patients cruel truths because he doesn't care about them in a personal level. I wonder if this will be the test for their friendship - something that he must tell to Wilson, but since he cares about him, he chooses to lie... idon wrote: when she was having that conversation with House, she only focused on what she could get from Wilson. You mean, like House? :wink:

idonmatrix- 04-19-2008

LMC wrote: The title's called "Wilson's Heart." That makes it sound like Wilson's the victim, either physically, emotionally, or both, not the villian. Exactly! Why an episode with that title will show Wilson as the bad guy? It doesn't make sense! I was rewatching It's a Wonderful Lie and, during their conversation at the end, House said that he can tell his patients cruel truths because he doesn't care about them in a personal level. I wonder if this will be the test for their friendship - something that he must tell to Wilson, but since he cares about him, he chooses to lie... idon wrote: when she was having that conversation with House, she only focused on what she could get from Wilson. You mean, like House? :wink: No I don't think so. Wilson is House's first love. They have history and as Wilson said they keep coming back. I'm betting 20 years trumps 4 months.

cindylouwho- 04-19-2008

How did people come to believe that House and Amber hate each other? I don't think that is true at all. Calling someone "Cut Throat Bitch" to their face, would lead me to believe that House is not very fond of Amber. I'm not saying hate, but I don't think she ranks very high up on House's like list.

Lully- 04-19-2008

I guess Cut Throat Bitch is a term of endearment coming from someone like House. I don't think he hates her - though I need to see their interactions for the next episodes to be sure - but he sees her as a menace and like any other thing he notices will threaten to mess with his life, he wants to get rid of her. I do think he sees a lot of him in her, and I believe he understands her very well. In another situation, in another time, he might even be supportive to her relationship with Wilson.

idonmatrix- 04-19-2008

uh oh . . the bolded part Meanwhile, much to House's delight, Amber and Wilson have their first argument, and Cuddy tries to keep up appearances when an inspector makes an unexpected visit to Princeton-Plainsboro in the "Living the Dream" episode. Well it looks like House is happy that the meltdown has started. But what really caught my eye was the inspector. I'm thinking it's either Amber or 13. Amber because she's "evil" enough to do something so vindictive. I think 13 would do it for the right reasons.

girl_from_the_bus_stop- 04-19-2008

I guess that "Cuddy tries to keep up appearances when an inspector makes an unexpected visit to Princeton-Plainsboro" would explain the "Cameron helps House with hospital paperwork" caption in some way but I still think she is there to jump the stud.

idonmatrix- 04-19-2008

I think the inspector is a separate issue from the paperwork - although if the complaint was that House makes all his female fellows do his paperwork then it could be related. Hmmm does that really make sense? Probably to Cameron. I think the inspector part explains why Cuddy is talking to House about his racist and sexist remarks - Amber and Wilson are also there.

girl_from_the_bus_stop- 04-19-2008

I think the inspector part explians why Cuddy is talking to House about his racist and sexist remarks - Amber and Wilson are also there. Isn't that scene from NMMNG? And the inspector doesn't show up until LTD. I didn't know his pressence had to be sexual harassment-related. In here inspectors check the administrative part of hospitals. I really shouldn't keep guessing until I know what "inspectors" do in the U.S. :wink:

idonmatrix- 04-19-2008

Well most organizations have to give assurances to get federal and state monies, included federal pass through funds administered by the state. These assurances usually address documentation, civil rights issues (sexual harassment, discrimination, workplace violence and drugs), and fiscal management. PPTH is a medicaid hopsital so they probably have many more regs than the ones I've just identified. So maybe Cuddy confronts House in response to the performance reviews. Now I'm wondering if CIA doctor reported him because she was really pissed when she left. But I still think it's probably Amber. It's something she would do to mess with House, while not considering the consequences to herself and Wilson.

Taiga- 04-19-2008

Wouldn't an inspector make sure they meet health codes, like sterilizing the surgical instruments and stuff? Any way I'm delighted to see Cuddy have an important part of an episode, and I hope it's separate from House. AD was booked for two more eps, right? We know she's in NMMNG and now the description for LTD says she's in that one too. Meaning she's not in the two-parter season finale. Hmm... I sure hope they don't break up after one fight.

Ranee- 04-19-2008

Wouldn't an inspector make sure they meet health codes, like sterilizing the surgical instruments and stuff? Its much, much broader than that - hospitals are required to be accredited by the Joint Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations (JCAHO) and there's a specific inspection requirement for accreditation. The accreditation inspection covers not only operational activities (including safety, health codes eetc), but policy ones & things like "environment of care" for patients & staff issues like leadership & HR. They also do random survey checks & also if there's a public (inc. anonymous) complaint they have to follow up with an on-site survey within a certain amount of time & they can do all of this without warning - if the hospital denies an inspector access, I'm not sure if they can shut the facility down (I think it depends on the infraction), but they can make life very, very difficult (the facility loses the ability to get payor reimbursements, for starters). ETA - one of the interesting things they do is score organizational leadership (i.e. Cuddy), & management of the staff & HR, & if they find the leadership lacking (policies & also implementation) they can refuse accreditation.

houserocket7- 04-19-2008

Wouldn't an inspector make sure they meet health codes, like sterilizing the surgical instruments and stuff? Its much, much broader than that - hospitals are required to be accredited by the Joint Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations (JCAHO) and there's a specific inspection requirement for accreditation. The accreditation inspection covers not only operational activities (including safety, health codes eetc), but policy ones & things like "environment of care" for patients & staff issues like leadership & HR. They also do random survey checks & also if there's a public (inc. anonymous) complaint they have to follow up with an on-site survey within a certain amount of time & they can do all of this without warning - if the hospital denies an inspector access, I'm not sure if they can shut the facility down (I think it depends on the infraction), but they can make life very, very difficult (the facility loses the ability to get payor reimbursements, for starters). ETA - one of the interesting things they do is score organizational leadership (i.e. Cuddy), & management of the staff & HR, & if they find the leadership lacking (policies & also implementation) they can refuse accreditation. If you go to any employee lounge, employee bulletin boards, and public areasetc, you will see all sorts of posters that are required to be displayed spelling out what can and cannot happen in the workplace. There are any number of federal laws covering sexual harassment, discrimination, etc. that can get accreditation pulled. The presence of an inspector certainly explains Cuddy's remark to House about a disturbing number of comments, although i'm not sure why Amber would be there. Wilson, I could understand.

idonmatrix- 04-19-2008

Ranee your description of the inspector's role was awesome and houserocket did a great job adding to it :) Now this is the Cuddy arc I've been waiting for, one that addresses her leadership style/effectiveness. I hope it carries over to S5. To me it will fit nicely with the Huddy ONS and the complications it is likely to create. Why wouldn't Cuddy be in the S4 finale? What do you know? :)