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Lully- 04-16-2008

Oh I'm sure Wilson has lots of feelings towards House and House reciprocate all of them... :wink: I guess the title can be literal and metaphorical: someone will break Wilson's heart (House? Amber?) and/or he would have a heart attack (don't they call that an infarction, too?). It's a little melodramatic, but... Aww Chip... it's ok, I was joking :heart: I see your point about Wilson's DDX, but I think at the end it would be him who would take all the decisions.

filex1410- 04-16-2008

Oh I'm sure Wilson has lots of feelings towards House and House reciprocate all of them... Absolutely, the good, the bad and the ugly. But re. the good, the last two episodes seem to be saying that Wilson has feelings for House that neither previously recognized and House is right there with him. I guess the title can be literal and metaphorical: someone will break Wilson's heart (House? Amber?) and/or he would have a heart attack (don't they call that an infarction, too?). It's a little melodramatic, but... Good pick up on the infarction term applying to both. (Second language indeed. :wink:) I think it could be both of them, but primarily House who has had much more time to set up in there. I'm not even sure that Wilson actually loves Amber yet. He's only spoken of liking her, perhaps it is her feelings that Wilson does not reciprocate. But regardless if House goes back on his word to let W/A take its own course, to allow Wilson to have other people in his life, I think Wilson will be very hurt by that betrayal. If as an offshot of that Amber leaves that will just compound everything. Another person who walks away from him. melodramatic? Yeah, welcome to House season finales :)

Chipmunk_love- 04-16-2008

Okay, I know I've just been talking about how House should only be Wilson's proxy/friend if he gets sick, but this just occurred to me: House's mantra is "Everybody Lies" but there is only one person on God's green Earth who gets away with lying to House as much as he does - Wilson. Although I'm sure Wilson knows the consequences of lying during medical care, what if he tries to lie to House about something while sick?

houserocket7- 04-16-2008

I'm not even sure that Wilson actually loves Amber yet but if House goes back on his word to let W/A take its own course, to allow Wilson to have other people in his life, I think Wilson will be very hurt by that betrayal. Wilson has been House's friend for how many years? If we assume that Wilson is intelligent (and not Charlie Brown holding a football...again), I seriously doubt that he wholeheartedly believes that House will just back off. I would bet he is waiting for the other shoe to drop. In fact, if House does back off, that might hurt him more...IMHO

filex1410- 04-16-2008

House has messed up repeatedly in his own life and taken Wilson along for the very bumpy ride. But House has not interfered before in Wilson's personal life. Wilson had three marriages during their relationship. And though House still required Wilson's time Wilson said that it was his choice to be with House because all the marriages were so bad. (Perhaps one of those times is when House should have made a pest of himself). Here Wilson feels this relationship has a chance (the good one he said in FFL that House feared) and Wilson is quite pleased at the end of DEC that House has decided he can live with that. Yes Wilson knows House, but House knows Wilson too and this is a time where House keeping his word was important. Establishing that he still gets to be in Wilson's life sure thats what NMMNG appears to cover. But if House goes too far in Head & Heart I can see Wilson being dreadfully disappointed. It may not surprise him but that doesn't mean it won't hurt.

houserocket7- 04-16-2008

But House has not interfered before. Wilson had three marriages during their relationship. And though House still required Wilson's time Wilson said that it was his choice to be with House because all the marriages were so bad. (Perhaps one of those times is when House should have made a pest of himself). Here Wilson feels this relationship has a chance (the good one he said in FFL that House feared) and Wilson is quite pleased at the end of DEC that House has decided he can live with that. Yes Wilson knows House, but House knows Wilson too and this is a time where House keeping his word was important. Establishing that he still gets to be in Wilson's life sure thats what NMMNG appears to cover. But if House goes too far in Head & Heart I can see Wilson being dreadfully disappointed. It may not surprise him but that doesn't mean it won't hurt. And how could he go too far? I think that the only way he could go too far is if he makes or tries to make a move on Amber. He did it to Crandell to "help" him.

filex1410- 04-16-2008

The only reason I don't see that is Crandall's girl was suppose to be a flake and House took advantage of that fact to get the girl to cheat on Crandall with him. He thought her unreliable and he proved it. Amber is not a flake so I see no way that approach would work here. Besides this is not a young 20 year old House it is instead a crippled, cranky middle aged man that fired Amber a couple of months back. Many of us might hit our knees for the current House but Amber, who has Wilson in her bed, (a quantum leap up from Crandall) can't see it.

Lully- 04-16-2008

I seriously doubt that he (Wilson) wholeheartedly believes that House will just back off. I think Wilson has been waiting for House to do a nice gesture for a long time. To show some concern and be an actual friend. I don't think he's expecting puppies and rainbows between House and Amber, but I guess he wants to believe that House is doing a self-sacrifice because he wants Wilson happy. Of course he knows that there will be some sort of dispute, but if House is really lying to him while plotting how to get rid of Amber, without any consideration about Wilson - again! - then I can see how hurt he would feel. How House would do that, I don't know - I don't believe he would try something with Amber. It's too low even for him, he wants Wilson with him, not against him! ETA: And what filey pointed out about Amber, too! what if he tries to lie to House about something while sick? It's a possibility, or maybe he didn't lie, but House forgot? I was reading some interesting opinions about the H/W feelings for each other, but I will put my thoughts in the ILU thread later. :)

piepeloe- 04-16-2008

I don't know if this is the appropriate thread but it is kind of spoilery and I can't get it out of my head. Season 5 isn't the final season, right? I've heard that it'll probably season 7? Then, aren't they bringing on the HoYay a bit soon? I'd like for H/W to be together at the end in some way and considering what's going on these last few eps and the spoilers we have for the next few, it definitely looks like we're headed that way. But I agree that there's no way TPTB would let their main character be in a happy and/or stable relationship. That's why there are obstacles such as Amber and Huddy and whatever will happen in the season finale...Now I did some 'math' and figured that even if the final H/W arc takes up the latter half of season 7 (what? I can't dream?) and Huddy takes up the first half of season 5, there's still the rest of season 5, the whole of season 6 and then 7 to go through. Considering there's already been an 'I love you' and a female proxy, that's an awful long time to draw out a relationship, unless there are some major roadblocks ahead. Tritter-like roadblocks. I'm being simplistic here and I'm not sure I'm getting my thoughts across...I'm going from blissful glee to frantic anxiety between one moment and the next so I'm not very coherent. Anyway, I just think they've brought on the H/W very early, considering I (and I'm not alone in this) feel that the last one to 'get' House on the show, gets to 'keep' him.

LightMyCandle- 04-16-2008

Although I'm sure Wilson knows the consequences of lying during medical care, what if he tries to lie to House about something while sick? I like that idea, I don't know why Wilson would lie to him though, unless something's been wrong with him for a while and he kept it from House. That wouldn't shock me. Amber is not a flake so I see no way that approach would work here. I agree. Amber's not stupid, even if House is stupid enough to make a move on her (and I won't rule out that he is) I believe Amber would see right through it. I know she's CTB and all but I don't think she's such a horrible person as to sleep with her boyfriend's best friend. What would that accomplish? She'd lose Wilson, she wouldn't be with House, she'd be left with nothing. Unless her ultimate goal here is to hurt Wilson (and why would she want that?) or to sleep with House (and there's been no indication that she wants him) I don't see her going for it.

KathyV- 04-16-2008

I confess that when I first saw the House/Wilson spoiler I was worried and I still am. I am not sure it means anything good for Wilson. After all Wilson's heart can also refer to Wilson's character. Maybe what House remebers after the bus accident is something none too flattering about Wilson that "tests their friendship to the limit" Because after all, why does it take House remembering to test their friendship to the limit. It implies that Wilson must have done something questionable, unethical perhaps because otherwise the friendship would be on the rocks even before House remembers. Wilson wouldn't be speaking to him prior to that. But what worries me is that Wilson will be afraid that House will remember something that will end their friendship. What could that be? Some say maybe Wilson would confess his feelings for House. That I would love But it could also be that Wilson behaves badly in some way relating to the bus accident. Not sure how Remember too that this show has tried to trash Wilson in the past, the Grace storyline, the Tritter arc. As I said I want to think positive but I don't think Wilson is the paitent. Not sure who that person is

travin1- 04-16-2008

Although I'm sure Wilson knows the consequences of lying during medical care, what if he tries to lie to House about something while sick? I like that idea, I don't know why Wilson would lie to him though, unless something's been wrong with him for a while and he kept it from House. That wouldn't shock me. I also like that idea. We already know that Wilson is the one person who can lie to House (right? I could swear I remember that). Now i've been wracking my brain trying to think of any symptoms he may have been exhibiting but I can't think of any. But even if Wilson IS lying to House about an illness (or maybe isn't even aware of it himself)...wouldn't House pick up on a symptom or two?

Chipmunk_love- 04-16-2008

But even if Wilson IS lying to House about an illness (or maybe isn't even aware of it himself)...wouldn't House pick up on a symptom or two? You would think, but perhaps if House is still dealing with whatever is "testing their friendship" from the episode before (assuming he's remembered it), then he wouldn't be as likely to pick up on anything else. We do know how obsessive House is. P.S. travlncarrie, I LOVE your avatar! :D

DrSpaceman- 04-16-2008

An extra's account of working on House. She doesn't say the episode, but it's a scene in an Irish pub with House and Wilson, and House is drunk. I also got to do a cross (re: walk in front of the camera) directly in front of Robert Sean Leonard, who was commenting on the fact that his mark tape was suspiciously purple, and just what was the crew trying to imply. This conversation with the rest of background followed. RSL: Purple...wasn't one of those Teletubbies purple? What was that one called? Me: Tinky Winky. Him: Tinksie Minky? Me: No, Tinky Winky. Not that it's any improvement. I have only the finest conversations with actors. By the way, both guys? Total sweethearts. For the record. Thank you, random extra, for a new quirky RSL quote us fans can run into the ground!

Taiga- 04-16-2008

I guess the reasons why he got on that bus are related to Wilson, maybe the fellow passenger would be too. But what may test their friendship could be something that House (or Wilson) did prior to the accident and that House also forgot. That's my theory, and like KathyV I think it's Wilson baby who did a bad, bad thing. Otherwise why wouldn't he just tell House what it was, instead of making him figure it out? ETA Maybe House took the bus because he was drunk. And why oh why would a childless grown man know anything about the Teletubbies?