Don't big cast shows like ER and Scrubs manage to fit everyone in? I see House becoming a bit like that. Same old, just with more characters rotating for storylines - like Startrek. What I find funny with House is that they seem to always forget Omar until the end and it's like quick we are almost at the end of the season - find him a storyline.

HL is all buzzed over the first 3 eppies' scripts. I hope he knows what he's talking about and it's not some PR bullshit. Being that 2 of the 3 is Peter Blake and Doris Egan makes me feel better, though. And I can totally imagine Wilson's face when House tells him about his ducklings' trickery :lol:

Being that 2 of the 3 is Peter Blake and Doris Egan makes me feel better, though. Me too. The focus of the story is supposed to revolve around the patient--therefore the doctors treating the patient. I don't expect to see Wilson and Cuddy get bigger roles than they had before because of this. I expect them to be shoved into the background behind the cheesey antics of Survivor:House. You're probably right. I do think that for a while, the newbies will just work as a group and not get all that much individual attention, but only for a few episodes and I'm pretty sure we won't be getting that much CCF time and as the first two episodes are written by PB and DE, I am at least hopeful for the first two eps, after that who knows. I know the show revolves around the patient, but I think that more importanatly, it revolves around House and his two strongest personal connections (aside from Stacy) are Wilson and Cuddy, far and away more important than whatever connection he has with CCF, IMHO.

(It's really bad that they're even ripping off other networks.) ripping off indicates that someone is taking something without acknowledgement and using it as their own. nobody's ripping anything off here, they're fully disclosing what they're doing. i agree with those that think it's perfectly in line with both this show and with house's personality to have him play mind games his prospective employees by using game show tactics. and, frankly, even though they're throwing the word "survivor" around because of how obvious that is, it's clear that they're not actually playing "survivor". they're playing any game that results in one man standing. which is about 95% of all competitive reality shows that came well before "survivor" and will be around long after. I know the show revolves around the patient, but I think that more importanatly, it revolves around House and his two strongest personal connections (aside from Stacy) are Wilson and Cuddy, far and away more important than whatever connection he has with CCF, IMHO. the show is "house" for a reason and it was conceived as being a show about house as detective defeating the disease. the patient is secondary to that. each supporting character has their funtion with the three fellows often being utilized as one to complete whatever task the writers need. i'm sorry that it upsets people that their favorite, at least in their perception, isn't getting as much screen time as someone else. some bitch that cameron gets twice as much as chase and foreman. clearly some think foreman gets more than either of the others. chase, it would seem, gets no time at all when clearly we've had episodes where he got more than the other two. fortunately the writers don't sit there and count words to make sure that all three get an exact equal number or words and reaction shots per show.

In S1, you're right, I think that CCF were more important than Wilson and Cuddy but after that most of his personal drama went on with Wilson and Cuddy. Believe me, I'm NOT secure about Wilson's screentime, I know RSL won't fight for more because he doesn't want more, I also know that they'll probably be pushed to the background even more so, (though honestly quality is more important than quantity when it comes to my love for Wilson ex. I thought Resignation was better and more important for Wilson than, say, Family, even though he was in Family more.) my only point was, that because PB and DE like Wilson and usually give me enough of him to make me happy, I am looking forward to episodes One and Two, especially one. After that I'm sure Wilson will drift right back to where he was but again, quality is more important than quantity. So, I'm choosing to remain cautiously optimistic.

ripping off indicates that someone is taking something without acknowledgement and using it as their own. nobody's ripping anything off here, they're fully disclosing what they're doing. I think "indicates" is too strong a word here. It may imply taking without acknowledgement to you may but that may not be what it means to everyone. Slang terms are especially open to nuances in interpretation and definition. For example, for me "ripping off" means taking without permission; if someone took and used something of mine and went around saying, oh, yeah, I totally stole this from fern it really wouldn't make me any less pissed off at the "theft". We used to have a local independent newspaper here which called itself The Bloomington Voice which was very open about acknowledging the fact that the title of their paper was in homage to New York's The Village Voice. That acknowledgement didn't stop the original Voice from sending them a cease and desist order and they had to rename their paper.... Not that I imagine any survivior-type show producers are going to mind a very popular, top-rated, critically acclaimed show giving them some exposure... :wink:

Are Survivor and House on the same network? If so I don't think they'll get into too much trouble. But why am I having visions of House, wearing green, in the middle of a jungle carrying a big torch? What I want to know is why all those new people put up with it? One spoiler says he hires 40 people as revenge. Where is all the money coming from?

We used to have a local independent newspaper here which called itself The Bloomington Voice which was very open about acknowledging the fact that the title of their paper was in homage to New York's The Village Voice. That acknowledgement didn't stop the original Voice from sending them a cease and desist order and they had to rename their paper.... i don't disagree with your point in theory and with specific regards to that case, but in this instance there is absolutely no comparison. "house" can make fun of "survivor", spoof them, pay homage to them, satirize them, do whatever they want beyond actually crossing the line of copyright infringement (cbs would have to give them permission to use footage or logos, but not to talk about, mock or criticise) and it's nothing remotely close to ripping off, borrowing, stealing or any other thefty type thing. "house" isn't doing anything close to this, but it's along the same vein as however many dozen sitcoms have used "a christmas carol" or "the wizard of oz" to set up a story or fantasy episode. at this point no show should do that just because it's been done too many times (though "scrubs" gets a pass), but if they choose to they're not ripping anything off, they're reworking and reimagining something. "house" isn't even reworking or reimagining "survivor" they're just using game show methods as house's latest jackass behaviour. all of the whining about "house", "grey's anatomy" and "scrubs" using scarily similar stories or visuals falls into the "is A ripping off B" argument, but not the above. Are Survivor and House on the same network? If so I don't think they'll get into too much trouble. no, they aren't on the same network, but they're not going to get into trouble just because their showrunners, in the press, are comparing house's hiring practices to a game of "survivor". i'm guessing that he doesn't have flags and torches in the classroom, he's using smaller indicators and wink/nod moments like the roses and bunson burners. though, it is house. still, cuddy would probably object to open flames in the hospital more than she would to a loud electric guitar.

I guess you could say "survivor" stole from my school jr. high P.E. class when we picked teams for kickball. I dont think eliminating people until you're left with one who wins or is given something was invented by Mark Burnett.

If anything the game shows referenced are probably going to lap up the extra publicity (hey! see, even House watches!).

Regarding cost/salary, in the promos House talks about a 6 week job interview. Maybe the first test is whether you're willing to work for little/no salary :) I suspect it's taken me longer to read your reactions to the elimination scenes than it will take to watch them. House makes pop culture references all the time. I don't see this as any different than his riffs on O. C., Dawsons Creek, etc. Personally, I'm waiting for House's Heidi Klum impersonation :)

Personally, I'm waiting for House's Heidi Klum impersonation Project Runway FTW! Suddenly I'm having visions of House walking the newbies through a differential diagnosis, telling them to, "Make it work work, people!"

Or use Tyra's complaint - not fierce enough?! Carmen Argenziano just got added to the cast list for Alone on imdb, he wasn't on the press release from Fox, but he has a name (Henry Dobson) - looks like he might be the janitor guy - photo looks old & I can't find a more up to date one. Anyone any idea?