You have an excellent point, blacktop! Being reasonable has no place in fandom! ;-)
sasmom- 05-10-2010
Ditto Blacktop!
Depends on how and why you watch the series. Mileage always varies.
wintertide- 05-10-2010
I'm sorry, I do not want any trouble at all, and I don't want anyone to be pissed at me at all. Really, truely.
But I just had to say that I don't understand why having an opinion is unreasonable.
Many people simply are not interested in the "House and Cuddy" show. Not at all. And if it has to be House and Cuddy, at least they could have been put together in a situation that makes sense, not this melodramatic nonsense.
And many people do not care at all for "poor, pathetic, pitiful" House. Many of us would rather see the real House.
And many people do watch mainly for Wilson, Chase and even 13, which makes the finale totally uninteresting.
That should not be wrong, everyone should be entitled to their own likes and dislikes and opinions, without being judged, and mocked for them.
Again, I'm truly sorry, but I just had to say this.
fffaw- 05-10-2010
No one is saying you can't have an opinion. I'm personally not interested in the House and Cuddy show either. Honestly, I'd prefer the finale not be about a romantic relationship, no matter who is involved. But it's not for me to say, not my show. I just watch it.
oufti's reaction seemed a little OTT for something that hasn't aired yet. I was just saying "Give it a chance, you might love it or hate it, but first *see* it and then make an *informed* decision." I don't let other people make my opinion for me, do you? There's been a whole lot of Chicken Little behavior about the end of the season and it may not (or may) be warranted, but we won't know for ourselves until next week.
Also, if you thought that was mocking or judging, you may be a bit delicate for the internet. Just saying...
ETA:
And if it has to be House and Cuddy, at least they could have been put together in a situation that makes sense, not this melodramatic nonsense.
Have you seen it the whole episode? Have you read the actual script? If not, then how do you know its "melodramatic nonsense?! If you have seen it, then I apologize, vent away. If not, then seriously, you may want to calm down and see what really happens.
Bea- 05-10-2010
oufti, why don't you just see how it plays out? I always marvel how people can get so overwrought about something they haven't seen yet.
I absolutely agree with wintertide! Because honestly, there seems to be kind of a double standard when it comes to negative opinions. Say someone got really excited about a spoiler, I don't recall anyone ever saying something along the lines of "how can you be so enthusiastic without having seen it?".
So why is it ok for some people (who haven't seen it) to believe that the finale is going to be emotional and moving, but others are not allowed to express their dislike with what they feel is going to be melodramatic nonsense? Both parties base those opinions on the same spoiler sources.
I'm thinking that House will try to persuade the trapped woman to allow her leg to be amputated "It's just a damn leg" (Three Stories) and she refuses, which will result in her death. He may confess that he made the wrong decision over his own leg and that's what Cuddy overhears.
Yeah that's what I would love to know. If that whole amputation scenario is true, he either convinces the trapped woman to amputate her leg, admitting that he made a mistake back then with his leg. Or he does the opposite, and tries to save her leg the same way he had intended for his leg, and fails once again, only this time it's much more fatal, because there's no Stacy going for a middle ground.
Oh well, I can't wait to find out, but still, this whole guessing game is fun ;).
ETA: I'm also curious about Foreman's role in it, there's this one promo photo where we see a dirty House followed by Foreman in PPTH's hallways and the caption says Foreman is trying to reason with House, I wonder what that is about?
fffaw- 05-10-2010
So why is it ok for some people (who haven't seen it) to believe that the finale is going to be emotional and moving, but others are not allowed to express their dislike with what they feel is going to be melodramatic nonsense? Both parties base those opinions on the same spoiler sources.
I feel the same way about those who feel it's going to be emotional and moving: Just wait and see, your mileage may vary. I'd rather wait and watch the finale myself and make up my own mind.
What irks a lot of folks is that many of the people who are in the negative camp work themselves into a hysterical lather, are convinced the writers are incompetent fools and it's going to suck like a Hoover. And then the finale happens and they're all like "Oh hey, that wasn't so bad!" It's happened time and time again.
Also, it seems that the people who are in the "postive" camp don't seem to express themselves with such OTT drama as the "negs". If they did, I'd be rolling my eyes at them too.
What_Box?- 05-10-2010
I feel the same way about those who feel it's going to be emotional and moving: Just wait and see, your mileage may vary. I'd rather wait and watch the finale myself and make up my own mind.
Oh, not me! I love speculating and playing with all the possibilities. The more conjecture, the better. This a really rich, layered drama with a lot of potentially fascinating directions to take, and there are some truly creative fans who follow the canon and know the show really well. I enjoy hearing their thoughts and ideas about how the episode *could* plausibly go.
fffaw- 05-10-2010
I love the speculation when it has actual substance about the possibilities and potential directions, not just outright bitching and whining or blind cheerleading. Ideas, those are good. Comment with nothing to back it up, not so much. If that's the case (which is what I was talking about above) then I'd rather just judge for myself.
angelcat2865- 05-10-2010
Me too.
Anonyme- 05-10-2010
I love that, being past 40, I can't wait for this finale show just like a teenager!!
Obviously, the House I have in my head is not the writers' one, and yet, despite the story not going where I would like it to, I have enjoyed the past finales. A lot. To the point it took me (almost) two weeks to get in a lighter mood after last year's finale. And I was spoiled about it.
I did not want House back on Vicodin, and I would like him with Cuddy. Seems that I won't have my wishes granted, on both parts. But I am sure I will be surprised, and admit it will probably make sense. After all, I don't know how this story is going to end. Maybe Shore already knows, just like Georges Lucas did before filming Star Wars? I do hope so.
extra_cat- 05-10-2010
The thought of a Huddy-heavy finale is as unappealing to me as anyone, but I'll be quite content if Chase lives, thank you very much. I can tolerate one Huddy horrific episode, even if it is the season finale.
oufti- 05-10-2010
Sorry if I sounded harsh yesterday. I know I have to wait and see but why can't I say I'm not happy with what I'm expecting to see.
If I can't post what my feelings are about this, I should just stop writting in this forum. Shouldn't I? Or maybe I just have to go to the bitterness thread but I can't. I found it frustrating to be called because I say I hate Cuddy and Huddy stuff. If I have said that I hated 13, nobody wouldn' have said something about it.
I'm part of the people who like House and the ducklings (Chase being my favourite). I know there are way more House/Wilson and House/Cuddy or even House/Cameron fans around the Internet. I just feel really alone on this one.
Am I watching the show again? Yes because it can be good again and I love Hugh Laurie. But all this drama around Cuddy is doing no good to his character for me.
Comment with nothing to back it up, not so much. If that's the case (which is what I was talking about above) then I'd rather just judge for myself.
Except that my comments are based on an article that sounds really true. It doesn't come from nowhere!
Anonyme- 05-11-2010
Just saw next week trailer
So he doesn't want her leg cut off, which is in character , given his past. If she is gonna die from this, it will crush him.
God, I hope there is something in the last scene to bring a little light.
Im not feeling masochistic enough to have another summer of angst...
The bright side is, they are writing season 7, so at last he is not gonna die yet!
ETA @ oufti : don't be sorry. We all watch for different reasons. We all get frustated or not pleased for periods. There is a fine line for writers to attract everyone, and we are allowed to rant about it. Sometimes you just react first and calm down after writing (I hated the new of the vicodin return) :cry:
ETA bis : I have seen the Global promo, too, on my phone (!) and I can't get what House says to Foreman after he yells "I have done everything right, and she died anyway". It sounds like "cut my leg"?? God, no???
Can anybody tell me what he really says?
Bea- 05-11-2010
ETA bis : I have seen the Global promo, too, on my phone (!) and I can't get what House says to Foreman after he yells "I have done everything right, and she died anyway". It sounds like "cut my leg"?? God, no???
Can anybody tell me what he really says?
I think he says "get out of my way", though I could be mistaken. So I guess Foreman tries to keep House from leaving the hospital in that alarming state of mind he's in, so obviously Foreman picks up on how crushed House is after the woman dies. Well, yay for Foreman, if that's the case! ;)
ETA: Now can anyone tell me what Cuddy's words are in the global promo? Those are really hard to make out, but maybe someone has seen it on tv with good sound quality?
Anonyme- 05-11-2010
Bea ETA: Now can anyone tell me what Cuddy's words are in the global promo? Those are really hard to make out, but maybe someone has seen it on tv with good sound quality?
She says "I don't love you" then "I'm done"
Since they are really good at messing with our heads in promos, I wonder what she is reacting to...
And I agree with you : suddenly, I would love to see Foreman to the rescue...I just found him more and more likable these past epis.