Reality is Almost Always Wrong: Spoiler Discussion Thread

Hopefully it's also because whatever happens with Wilson or House/Wilson is part of the "shocking!" thing. (Could it be 'Amber' taking over House's body?? ...yeah, I should keep that idea in the crack thread, probably. *g* I don't think it belongs in the crack thread because House did refer to Amber as his female proxy in Don't Ever Change. And I believe the voice over promo guy said it was the most shocking revelation in House history. The promo guy also said we'd be talking about it all summer?House allowing Amber to take over his body (i.e. conscious voluntary actions) particularly as regards Wilson would be totally shocking and have people talking non-stop.

Hi Am I right in thinking that in a written preview for the final episode that Amber is not the only dead person House is seeing? Also Just for the record i think episode 24 is going to a total halluctation and cuddy and wilson have had him committed. I'm just hoping that TPTB are not pulling a Dallas and having Amber come out of the shower and turning to House and saying "Hi Greg were you having a nasty dream" If they did I would still watch but I just wouldn't buy the DVD's

Winter said: What if he WAS having an affair with Amber? Like Cuddy said to House in the promo for 5X24: "People who get close to you get hurt". If revealed, it would certainly serve to hurt a lot of people, including Wilson and Cuddy. Oh, and Amber. Perhaps. Anyway, I don't think it's likely. I think Amber truly loved Wilson, and she would have never cheated on him. As far as House is concerned, it's not clear whether he ever had feelings for her, and I know he risked his life to save hers, but as I see it he did it more for Wilson - because he asked him to, and because he knew how much she meant to him - than for Amber, though I believe he felt a sort of kinship with her, and in a way he cared for her, but not in terms of romantic love. Of course, I may be wrong. Maybe he HAD feelings for her, after all. travin1 said: I'm hoping everyone assumes House has lost his mind, when actually it's something more physical going on with his brain. After I read your comment it dawned on me that House's health and the reason he was at that bar might be related. What if House, on that day, had noticed something was wrong, and had decided to go somewhere, to an hospital whose administrator, or one of whose doctors, owned him a favour, to get tested? Maybe he found out he suffers from some neurological disorder and, on his way home, decided to stop at that out-of-the-way bar. And why did he say 'Someone is going to die'? He wasn't referring to the driver. As far as Amber is concerned, he noticed her sneezing, he noticed her taking flu pills, and after the crash she was hurt, bleeding, a metal rod piercing her thight, but she wasn't dying and there was no way House could imagine she had lost both her kidneys in the crash and she would basically die of an overdose of amantadine for that reason. Maybe House could remember the feeling, the fact that someone's life was fading out, but he forgot it was himself. I know, he got an MRI in House's 'Head', but maybe he suffers from something that doesn't show up in that kind if exam.

I don't think House and Amber ever had an affair going on. I don't believe either one of them would do that to Wilson. Amber's the one female character I still have respect for, I would be crushed if they ruined that. I also don't think that whatever this whole thing is about will have anything to do with HH/WH. They've never gone back an entire season like that to explain something, I can't see them doing it now. If Wilson does get hurt (and I'm not convinced he does, they all keep saying "everyone" but IMO, that rarely literally means everyone.) then it will probably just be general pain that House has lost his mind. I don't see what House could do to hurt him in just one more episode where he's entirely obsessed with Cuddy. More than that, I don't see why he would. Though, it would be nice if they really gave a definitive answer as to why it's Amber. They've kind of addressed it, but mostly ignored it. I love AD, but I hope they brought her back because it made sense for the storyline, not just because they like AD.

The voice over person said it would be the most shocking thing in House history. Nothing about a revelation. I think the shocking thing will be that House starts hallucinating yet another person, goes over the edge and goes into psychiatric care. It doesn't seem shocking to us because we've suspected it for a while now but it will be to the unspoiled viewers. Wilson looks pretty shocked as he's rising from his chair. I am guessing that that's a turning point in the episode. Either House entered his office and did or said something. Or Cuddy came in with some shocking news about House. The last shot has House looking intensely at something and then closing his eyes as someone holds him, most probably Cuddy. I am guessing that that's the point where he'll admit defeat and ask for professional help. Don't see the potential for much H/W drama. House will probably say more hurtful things to him than he usually does. And there will probably be an intense and emotional conversation between them that touches on Danny, mental illness and Wilson's fear of losing House. There's obviously going to be H/C drama since we know he's going to announce that he slept with her to the entire hospital. But he doesn't look spiteful when he says it, more desperate. I get the feeling that she's going to be the villain who breaks House's heart, just like Wilson did last year. I have no doubt I am going to enjoy the episode but frankly, the only thing that will shock me at this point is if House has a heart to heart with hallucination! Kutner and we finally learn why he killed himself.

I have no doubt I am going to enjoy the episode but frankly, the only thing that will shock me at this point is if House has a heart to heart with hallucination! Kutner and we finally learn why he killed himself. And even then we couldn't trust it because House wouldn't actually be talking to Kutner; he'd be talking to himself.

Re: detox
With regards to the detox scenes and the rapidity of House's detox... I don't think a tv show would ever show what a proper detox looks like. It's slow, painful, and ugly. And this is fiction, after all. An approximation of truth is all that's required. And the prediction: House has late-onset schizophrenia. It's rare. It's usually treatable. I can't think of any other explanation for vivid hallucinations with no physical cause! The writers will have to pull something out of their hats for this one. Monday, Monday, you're so far away... technically detox is the period it takes for the drug to leave your system ... generally accepted rule is 5 halflife periods = detox. Vicodin has a half life just short of 4 hours so in under 20 hours after your last dose you 're detoxed. What you are referring to is rehab, that's what 's slow and painful.

Re: detox
The problem is that in House-verse, detoxing off of vicodin takes several days and is messy and accompanied by all sorts of side effects and cognitive effects (Detox, Finding Judas, MLC). That is the reality the terms the show has set up. To suddenly have it all taken care of in 12 hours with energy to spare to jump Cuddy breaks the rules of the show's universe. House has late-onset schizophrenia. It's rare. It's usually treatable. I can't think of any other explanation for vivid hallucinations with no physical cause! The writers will have to pull something out of their hats for this one. That makes sense. (I was reading an article today which referred to very late on-set schizophrenia (> 60)). I think it might be problematic for the show though because they would always have it there, it's not something that could be reset to season 2 levels like House's relationship with Wilson after Amber's death, or getting a new team or even his relationship with Cuddy. It would always be a sword over his head if he got too stressed or something went wrong and I'm not sure the show wants that on-going burden. My guess is it's something that can be resolved in the first three episodes of season 6. Possibly drug or brain tumor related since that seems to be 'in' this season.

I tend to take the position of not judging a book by its out of context promo clip. Well you're no fun at all Chippers. The whole point of this thread is to make tremendous leaps to incredible conclusions and run about flailing wildly over what we think, guess, extrapolate - might, could, may be happening. Oh, and threaten to fast forward through most of the next episode, because it's just, omigod, too much. Hmmm . . . most people don't threaten to TVo FF. They actually do TiVo FF. I often watch the entire episode once and then rewatch the House/Wilson scenes over and over again. Since I also read the H/W LJ east coast episode feed, I can pretty avoid anything I hate - like the Huddy. TiVo is a thing of TV wonder and a viewing joy forever.

Didn't Wilson say you couldn't practice medicine if you were on anti-psychotic meds?

Didn't Wilson say you couldn't practice medicine if you were on anti-psychotic meds? technically you can't practice medicine when you have an opiate addiction either :) but generally yeah, any doctor on any kind of mood control/psych meds would cease to practice, primarily because they would be automatically uninsurable

Didn't Wilson say you couldn't practice medicine if you were on anti-psychotic meds? Wilson said to House "you shouldn't be treating patients if you're hallucinating" and can't treat patients if you're on anti-psychotics.

Does that apply to anti-depressants too? I remember Wilson gave some to House and I think he's taking them himself. I'm just curious because if House does have schizophrenia, he couldn't practice medicine. They have to come up with some way to account for the hallucinations that doesn't keep him from being a doctor. I'm guessing brain tumor and that's why Chase and Cameron are comforting each other after a surgery.

Carl Reiner's involuntary squawking in tomorrow's finale reminds me of the chicken-clucking that HL was hypnotized into doing in "Fortysomething." Wouldn't it be cool if Reiner winds up having been hypnotized?

As far as House and Wilson go, I'll be surprised (given that it's a DE episode) if they don't have a conversation about why it's Amber specifically that he's hallucinating. And Wilson will probably play a big part in convincing House to get help. I kind of suspect the season will end with House and Cuddy not on good terms - they'll repair things their friendship and work relationship after/while House recovers next season, though, of course. technically detox is the period it takes for the drug to leave your system A bigger concern than the detox IMO is what House is using or planning to use for pain relief. Personally I'll be able to shrug off an unrealistic detox time period because, you know, it's not like I know anything about the medical stuff. *g* But House's pain, and his need for and obsession with relief are big parts of his character, and that's the part of it all I care about. So. It'd bug me and stuff if that's not something he's thinking about. My guess is it's something that can be resolved in the first three episodes of season 6. Agreed - something that allows for a reset button is generally a good bet for this show. *g* but generally yeah, any doctor on any kind of mood control/psych meds would cease to practice, primarily because they would be automatically uninsurable Well, if need be I imagine that's something they can forget if necessary - after all, if they start having an on-going concern for whether the doctors can be insured, that's probably going to be a problem for Thirteen.

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