Reality is Almost Always Wrong: Spoiler Discussion Thread

I think Cuddy's getting to the point where she doesn't want to put up with House humiliating her for kicks... at least not now that she is contemplating a relationship with him. Opening up to someone after so long, then having them throw that in your face ain't good for any woman's self-esteem. Well, then I guess she shouldn't sleep with him. She should know by now who she's dealing with. Personally, I think she's asked for everything she's gotten after Let Them Eat Cake and I don't feel the least bit sorry for her if he continues to humiliate and demean her. She's done a pretty good job making an idiot out of herself without him anyway. I'm not even taking this line seriously right now. It doesn't mean they actually did sleep together (actually they already have, so it's true either way). It could just be something he yells out because he's annoyed, or trying to get out of clinic duty. If there is sex this season, I'm going to take a guess that it happens in 5x22. Well Wilson did say Cuddy was a little crazy and I guess you'd have to be to sleep with a man AGAIN who regularly demeans and objectifies you in PUBLIC. I think there will be Huddy sex. And I'm thinking it will happen in 522 too. DS did say what they'll be exploring is the FALLOUT from the Huddy sex redux. The Huddy sex is not a prelude to a Foreteen or Chameron type relationship.

DS did say what they'll be exploring is the FALLOUT from the Huddy sex redux. The Huddy sex is not a prelude to a Foreteen or Chameron type relationship. This is definitely the most important thing to remember. House and Cuddy are not destined to have a long-term romantic relationship; House is not destined to have a long-term romantic relationship with anyone, period. However, whatever their reasons are for having sex and how they handle that (which, knowing them, will be badly) will most certainly play a role in whatever House goes through in the next five episodes. When it comes to what House says about and to Cuddy, the thing about Cuddy is that she doesn't tend to take it personally because it's not meant personally, at least not in the way it would be taken in the real world. Sometimes she'll fool herself into thinking that House could be more than that, but in the last few episodes, I think they've fallen back into how their relationship was pre-Joy -- volatile but comfortable. And when this next flare-up is over, that's where they'll eventually be again, but that won't be until S6, I'm sure.

I wonder if DE could be referring to Clint E or perhaps it is Carl Reiner but would he create that buz?

Carl Reiner could definitely create that buzz. He developed The Dick Van Dyke Show; he had a big role in helping Steve Martin's film career get off the ground; he's won the Mark Twain Prize for humor. Definitely an icon.

He was only surprised about Wilson seeing the truth after no one else did. That's why he felt he could say it to Wilson without worry. But it's different this time because more people will believe it. After all the Huddy interaction at the very least the team will and thru them probably Ch/Cam. Then when you consider how practically every stranger who has spoken with or even observed Cuddy and/or House for more than two minutes since the kiss has been able to see immediately just how into each other they really are I'm guessing more than half the people within ear shot of House's rantings will believe him. The way he delivered the line “Kinda hit that last night so now she’s all on my jock” to his team was very different from the way he said it to Wilson. In the first case he wanted to throw his team off and so he acted like he was in his usual jerk mode and that it was one of his regular sexual jokes about Cuddy. In the second case, he was taking a nap and he mumbled it sleepily in a tone that suggested he was reluctantly confessing something. The line “Everyone else thought I was kidding” was put there to let viewers know Wilson knows House better than anyone else, not to imply that House meant to make his kiss with Cuddy public. He had plenty of other opportunities to do that, but he didn’t. I do agree that it’s different this time because their “romance” has been very public after “LTEC”. The latest spoiler is worrying but DE is writing the final episode and she can make even Boreteen tolerable, so I am going to wait and see. DS did say the season finale was going to be very “emotional”. I think they are spoiling us with the small, unimportant things and keeping the big story under wraps.

Carl Reiner is definitely American icon material. He goes back to Your Show of Shows in the early fifties, with Sid Caesar and Imogene Coca, and where many writers including Neil Simon and Mel Brooks got their start. Cuddy is evidently a very slow learner. The fact that she even remotely considers having any sort of romantic relationship with him after his years of publicly humiliating her makes this whole pairing beyond absurd and mostly laughable. DS did say what they'll be exploring is the FALLOUT from the Huddy sex redux. He said that in the summer after season 3. I think he should have stuck to that, his original plan, and had Huddy sex in season 4 or early season 5 instead of dragging out the foreplay through two seasons. (It strikes me as another example of Shore playing to a fanbase rather than his original ideas for the show.) Instead of a moment of passion/weakness, they've now set it up as a serious romance, which doesn't mesh with the way House and Cuddy have been behaving towards each other (stink bombs, trip wires, public humiliation, OTT anvils). The other problem IMO is that if it had happened in the first part of season 5, it would have generated considerable watercooler buzz. Now it's competing with Bones sex in May sweeps, which is more mainstream and has more people rooting for it since they've been setting it up slowly for 4 years without alternative ships for either character. It also will follow the Hunt/Yang scene on GA, which had all the critics as well as the fans moved and I think set a new bar for loves scenes on TV. Shore has dug himself into a rather hole with Huddy at this point. It will be interesting to see if he can pull it off in the end.

I think they are spoiling us with the small, unimportant things and keeping the big story under wraps. Agreed. I don't think this will be a very big deal. And yeah, it's cool to have Carl Reiner but guest stars are never enough to get me to care about an episode of a TV show (with the exceptions of Stephen Fry on Bones and Dominic Monaghan on Chuck) so I'm not feeling too pumped about his appearance either. There has to be more going on in the finale than just that. I can't see the finale being a big Huddy episode, because I don't think they would have given it to Doris Egan if that's what they wanted. I don't think it will center on any one relationship, more like all of them coming to a head. I think DE's very good at balancing multiple elements in an episode and making it all work without things feeling too crowded or rushed. If the bachelor party is not in House's head, then I think the Huddy sex will happen while all the guys (and 13) are at the bachelor party. I don't know why I think that, it's just a feeling.

I wonder if DE could be referring to Clint E or perhaps it is Carl Reiner but would he create that buz? I don't know that Carl Reiner necessarily creates a huge buzz with the viewing audience, per se, although he is widely known and appreciated. But for a working writer in Hollywood that demonstrably loves a clever turn of phrase and the history of popular culture? Yeah, I can see DE being estatic and beside herself in his presence.

Cuddy is evidently a very slow learner. The fact that she even remotely considers having any sort of romantic relationship with him after his years of publicly humiliating her makes this whole pairing beyond absurd and mostly laughable. I'm just kind of hoping that they hurry up and get there and hurry up and leave this dreadful storyline behind ASAP. Well, Cameron is still having issues about House after 4 years so...as a Huddy I'm really glad that Cuddy is a "slow learner". ;)

Well, Cameron is still having issues about House after 4 years so Er....splainy?

I've never heard of Carl Weiner. Am I banned? Cuddy is evidently a very slow learner. The fact that she even remotely considers having any sort of romantic relationship with him after his years of publicly humiliating her makes this whole pairing beyond absurd and mostly laughable. To be fair, except for that disasterous attempt that ended in House grabbing her breast Cuddy has been the one resisting a relationship with House. She was the one to come to him after the kiss and behave maturely and state it shouldn't have happened. She didn't invite him to her baby naming thing. She's in love with him (in my opinion it's canon now) and has trouble resisting him, but has never asked him out on a date. She's not pursuing him. I wonder if Cuddy will be put in a position where she has to choose between House and the good of the hospital. In season 1 she chose the hospital.

In season 1, she chose both House and the hospital. Vogler would have been satisfied with nothing less than total carte blanche to run the hospital as he pleased. House was just the line in the sand he drew. If she hadn't stopped him, she herself would have been out soon enough and she had to have known it. Cuddy isn't asking House out but she still wants him even after all he's done to her, even though she knows a relationship between them would fail as she told Wilson in the Itch. She still wants him as part of her life with Rachel even though she knows it wouldn't work out. That's the slow learner part IMO.

She didn't invite him to her baby naming thing. Really? You think that whole mess belongs in the win pile for her? She was playing more stupid games, changing her mind every five minutes and she very clearly wanted him there, as shown by the mopey look on her face at the end. I think she was about to ask him for real before he cut it off and left. That episode is just further evidence of how far she's fallen.

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