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cindylouwho- 03-02-2009

Most would assume it's Wilson but if not him, then who? I would assume it's Wilson and/or Cuddy. They're two most lasting presences in his life (though one could make a good argument for Chase, as House can be assured he'd do what he was instructed to do). But it seems that since Three Stories, despite all the crap House has been through, the issue of who's making decisions for him hasn't really come up; I doubt it will in the future. I always assumed it was Wilson. I think there is still a tiny little part of him that doesn't trust her in regards to his medical decisions after her involvement in the debridement. I think it is Wilson, but I could see there being a case for Chase as back up proxy.

LogicalLilly- 03-02-2009

There is one good argument for Cameron being House's proxy, although I seriously doubt that House would ever choose her. She demonstrated that she will follow the wishes of the patient in "Euphoria," which neither Cuddy or Stacy did with House. (I'm not passing judgment on them. I have mixed feelings about their decision.) Also, Cameron was so worried about the agoraphobic patient in "The Itch" that she was willing to wake him up and explain WHY she had him brought to the hospital before he went into surgery. Sure, we can debate about whether it was a stupid thing to do or not, but she did it out of concern for the patient, and House was well aware of that.

Taiga- 03-02-2009

I believe Cuddy is House's proxy, given that he was instructing her to give him ketamine after he was shot and would NEED a proxy. But Cameron would be a good choice, now that you mention it. For all the other speculation, remember to consider what kind of person Chase is! Since being fired he's distanced himself from House's department and chided Cameron for being involved herself. He's also never shown any interest in developing his career, in pursuing positions of authority. It wouldn't be like him to come back to House's team unless he didn't have a choice, and he would not want to be head of the diagnostics department. And I definitely do not see him agreeing to be House's proxy. Chase avoids conflict.

Vicodin- 03-02-2009

I don´t think that Cuddy is House´s proxy, because of the role she has played in the treatment of House´s infarction. She proposed Stacy the debridement of House´s dead tigh muscle. House has instructed Cuddy to give him ketamine, because, since she is the dean of the Hospital, she surely has to allow the ketaminetreatment. I think that Wilson is House´s proxy.

waywarddone- 03-02-2009

I don´t think that Cuddy is House´s proxy, because of the role she has played in the treatment of House´s infarction. She proposed Stacy the debridement of House´s dead tigh muscle. House has instructed Cuddy to give him ketamine, because, since she is the dean of the Hospital, she surely has to allow the ketaminetreatment. I think that Wilson is House´s proxy. Agreed. In the Ketamine treatment situation House didn't need a proxy he made the request for the treatment he wanted himself while he was still conscious. House had Cameron tell Cuddy only because she is DoM of PPTH making her the highest authority for approving procedures especially of a somewhat experimental nature. It was her place in the hospital that made her the one to tell. Although it is possible that after what House went thru with the infarction that he in fact has no proxy. Just because a person should have one doesn't mean House does. For someone like House that in itself would be a reason to not have one in place.

Cutie Honey- 03-02-2009

If House has a proxy, I'd vouch that it would be Wilson too. Mostly because he's the person closest to House, and the one House trusts the most. But does he trust Wilson enough to make him his proxy, is the real question? With all those lectures about his Vicodin and shrug-offs regarding House's pain, would House really want Wilson to be second-in-charge of his medical decisions? After the infarction decision, I doubt he'd make Cuddy his proxy. There'd always be that element of mistrust between them there ... At least when it comes to House's medical decisions. And House seems to still stand by the fact that he doesn't thinks she 's a particularly good doctor. (And lets face it, Cuddy hasn't exactly shown that she can separate her emotions from her duty when it comes to making medical decisions). I can't imagine House putting so much trust in her because of that either. But waywarddone brings up a good point... Would House even have a proxy now? After the infarction and Stacey's "betrayal", would he be willing to put himself in that position again? -

sdemar- 03-02-2009

I tend to believe that House is his own proxy. I don't think he wants anyone in charge of making his medical decisions again. If that means he dies, he dies. He would probably prefer it that way.

travin1- 03-02-2009

I'd think it would be Wilson. Possibly Cuddy...he did ask that she give him the ketamine, but at the same time, he dreamt that she (once again) went behind his back to give him the ketamine in the hallucination. I'm intrigued by Chase. I don't think he's his medical proxy, but I do think he's the one who prescribed the Methadone, which could be the basis for the upcoming return to House's team.

idonmatrix- 03-02-2009

I'd think it would be Wilson. Possibly Cuddy...he did ask that she give him the ketamine, but at the same time, he dreamt that she (once again) went behind his back to give him the ketamine in the hallucination. I'm intrigued by Chase. I don't think he's his medical proxy, but I do think he's the one who prescribed the Methadone, which could be the basis for the upcoming return to House's team. I can't track Chase prescribing methadone for House. I thought someone said in TSS that whoever prescribed it didn't know House's drug addiction history. Also, I just can't imagine Chase being that reckless. And he would have told Cameron and Foreman who would have told Wilson who would have told Cuddy. Well that's sort of what happened except the Chase, Cam and Foreman part. Does anyone recall the very brief mention of Chase in LTD? I hope it answers whatever was happening in that scene. Maybe Chase has a disability but he's been able to keep it under wraps until toward the end of S5 or beginning of S6. I could see Chase returning to House's team under those circumstances. Also wasn't there some mention Cameron would return too?

This Puppy- 03-03-2009

Perhaps Chase will go deaf. I think that counts as challenging. It would be emotionally challenging for the actor to show Chase's effort to stay connected with people and the medical talk, whilst reining in ordinary hearing reactions, and then to show him working through the frustrations of the absolute change. It would be physically and mentally challenging too if Chase stays deaf long enough to move on to signing. (Who can rule out an eventual miracle cure?) Would be interesting to see how people around him would react. House is such a verbal show. How would that emphasis play out if one of the (no longer so central but still important) characters needed another kind of communicativeness? Plus deafness would be a good joke on the writers' part. Everyone goes on about how good Chase's expressions are and how few lines he has.

extra_cat- 03-03-2009

And he would have told Cameron and Foreman who would have told Wilson who would have told Cuddy. He wouldn't have told Cameron if he were following the codes of doctor/patient confidentiality. I think that, unlike some of the other characters on the show, Chase has the ability to keep his mouth shut.

travin1- 03-03-2009

I can't track Chase prescribing methadone for House. I thought someone said in TSS that whoever prescribed it didn't know House's drug addiction history. Also, I just can't imagine Chase being that reckless. And he would have told Cameron and Foreman who would have told Wilson who would have told Cuddy. Well that's sort of what happened except the Chase, Cam and Foreman part. In 'Painless', the potw asks House if he was in more pain and House said yet. Chase was standing right there and was surprised to hear House's confession. And last week, House specifically said his doctor knew that he was in pain (and he referenced his doctor as a 'he'). Chase may feel the need to do what House asks because of what happened at the end of last season, and if both Wilson & Cuddy could come to accept House's need for Methadone, I don't find it a stretch that Chase could, too. I also don't think it's a stretch to think Chase could keep his mouth shut. Doctor/patient confidentiality. I'm not ruling out the idea that Chase may have something physically/mentally wrong or is on an alcohol bender (because I like these ideas, too)...just saying I think I also like the idea that Chase was the one to prescribe for House.

Ariadne- 03-03-2009

A medical proxy is like a power of attorney. It's someone who you trust to made decisions for you if you are unable to make them for yourself. House can't be his own proxy. If House has a medical proxy, it's most likely Wilson because Wilson is closest to him. But both Wilson and Cuddy are compromised by previously having done things or forced House to do things which he didn't want to do because they thought it was good for him. (This came out even in his hallucination in No Reason.) So the question is whether House bears any resentment or suspicion from those incidents. If he does, Chase and Cameron would be better choices because they would be less likely to project their own expectations on House and more likely to do what he wants. As House saw in Euphoria, Cameron will do whatever she needs to do to respect the wishes of the patient. Chase will keep a secret to his grave and he is willing to let people go to hell in their own way so he might well be the one prescribing the methadone. If something is going to happen to bring Chase back, on to the screen more, it's going to have to affect the whole department, not just Chase alone. Getting sick, developing a disability or going deaf (much as I loved Reasonable Doubts), would only affect Chase and he's never got a story line more than a single episode long (unlike Foreman). Thirteen's Huntington's dominates the show because Shore is obsessed with Thirteen (as he never was with Chase), not because the story line calls for it. If Chase is going to be back on the show in a regular capacity, whatever happens must bring him back to the diagnostics department. But with a department already of 5 people, it's had to think how they can fit him in.

maya- 03-03-2009

If Chase is going to be back on the show in a regular capacity, whatever happens must bring him back to the diagnostics department. But with a department already of 5 people, it's had to think how they can fit him in. Here's a thought. This show never keeps people happy for long. (Chase/Cam, yes. But they're mostly off screen, so I am not counting them.) So, I doubt they'll have Foreteen continue to happily work and live together. They could have Foreteen break up for real and show them fighting at work for real. :roll: House would ask one of them to leave. Foreman goes off to head the neurology department at PPTH and Chase/Cam get his screen-time. Foreteen get back together and are happy off screen.

Kerry- 03-03-2009

If Foreman was kicked out of the main group, that would probably mean way less screentime for OE. I've always figured he put up the strongest fight about not being replaced by the new ducklings because he has a family and has been in the industry for a while. I could be wrong - but I doubt he'd take a huge paycut in terms of how many episodes he appeared in. I figured maybe JS and JM are younger and wanted to explore other projects, so they were more ok with the less screen time - but it seems hard to fit them both in. Possibly JM is leaving, and JS is staying? I feel like somehow or another they have to really get rid of a character or two, but I'm just speculating.