I'm not saying that I don't think Wilson will be invited. I do think he'll be invited.
I just meant that it'd be terrible if he wasn't invited (for whatever reason), especially after all he's done for Cuddy and her baby. I don't want Rachel's ceremony to be used as nothing more than a plot device to get House involved with both Cuddy and Rachel.
Speaking of the next episode ... Is it true that it's been delayed until February 16th? :?
LightMyCandle- 02-06-2009
Why wouldn't she invite Wilson?
*shrugs* It wouldn't surprise me. Logically, she would invite him because they are friends but Cuddy's moods are changing so drastically lately, I don't want to even try to guess what her next move will be. That and, I think the writers would leave Wilson out of it altogether with no explanation for the sake of a Huddy/baby scene. So, yeah, it won't surprise me if he isn't invited, but it also won't surprise me if he does. I think it could go either way.
sdemar- 02-06-2009
*shrugs* It wouldn't surprise me. Logically, she would invite him because they are friends but Cuddy's moods are changing so drastically lately, I don't want to even try to guess what her next move will be. That and, I think the writers would leave Wilson out of it altogether with no explanation for the sake of a Huddy/baby scene. So, yeah, it won't surprise me if he isn't invited, but it also won't surprise me if he does. I think it could go either way.
Sorry, I totally disagree with you here. Wilson is Cuddy's best girlfriend. He's been with her every step of the way of her emotional ride. He truly is someone to be valued in spite of the fact that he can't keep a secret. And for what it's worth, I think Cuddy's emotional state is understandable. She wanted to be a mom and was denied and then ended up being a mom by default in a very short period of time. Now she questions herself because she hasn't bonded. That's realistic. . Granted, it was stretched a bit, but nonetheless, that is enough to shake anyone's world especially one that has an A personality who is career oriented. They are moving toward Huddy but I believe it's realistic.
As DS just pointed out in the latest spoiler, they are doing it slow and at their own pace because they want it to make sense. So far, it has, in my mind.
LightMyCandle- 02-06-2009
Wilson is Cuddy's best girlfriend. He's been with her every step of the way of her emotional ride. He truly is someone to be valued in spite of the fact that he can't keep a secret.
Yeah, that all makes sense based on what we've seen of them, especially this season, what I'm saying is that I won't put it past the writers to throw what makes sense out the window in favor of something else that they like better.
And Cuddy's crazy behavior started with LTEC, that "I think we're supposed to kiss now" was a huge WTF moment for me. I honestly thought that House was having a dream until the scene was over and I had to wrap my head around the fact that she really did say it, she really did mean it, and she really did expect it. And we don't all take out our own emotional problems by physically hurting others. She wants to punch herself out, use a pillow like a normal person. Yeah, yeah she apologized but it doesn't erase the fact that she thought that behavior was justified in the first place and we'll have to agree to disagree on that.
Ariadne- 02-06-2009
It makes sense to me that Cuddy would invite House and Wilson since other than the mysterious friend she was calling in Spin to complain about the internet dating service, they're the only friends we know she has. In season 1 she used to have friends she played tennis and golf with but they seem to have gone by the wayside. Also any female friends at the hospital because there was no one but House to give her the fertility shots. (She's worked in the hospital for at least a dozen years, is there no head nurse or women doctor she's made friends with?) Realistically, she should invite a number of people who she's known during her time at the hospital.
What strikes me as strange is how much Cuddy seems to want House to be there. He's never been supportive of her adopting although he accepted it at the end of Big Baby. So while it's right for her to invite him, she shouldn't expect him to turn up and and have a good time, it's not who House is. Even more, she shouldn't need him to be there.
What I'm dreading is that House spends the episode telling everyone he's not going and in the end he turns up and plays the baby a lullaby because he loves Cuddy so much but can't bring himself to express it. The writing for this arc has been worse than the worst nightmares of those who were afraid that the House/Cameron relationship in season 1 would ruin House.
And more than just the baby stuff, House has been the major presence in Cuddy's life for more or less two decades.
Is this canon or fanon? I know that Cuddy knew of House at Michigan but she never confirmed that she actually knew him (HD). Vogler said that she hired House eight years previously and there's that one night he gave her everything she wanted (Top Secret) but we still don't know exactly when that was, whether it was Michigan, post-Stacy or in between, or even that they kept in touch after he left Michigan and before he was hired at PPTH. We've never seen them socializing off hours other than the hospital's poker fund-raising nor have we ever seen them having lunch together as we've seen Wilson and Cuddy do.
Chipmunk_love- 02-06-2009
And more than just the baby stuff, House has been the major presence in Cuddy's life for more or less two decades.
Is this canon or fanon? I know that Cuddy knew of House at Michigan but she never confirmed that she actually knew him (HD). Vogler said that she hired House eight years previously and there's that one night he gave her everything she wanted (Top Secret) but we still don't know exactly when that was, whether it was Michigan, post-Stacy or in between, or even that they kept in touch after he left Michigan and before he was hired at PPTH. We've never seen them socializing off hours other than the hospital's poker fund-raising nor have we ever seen them having lunch together as we've seen Wilson and Cuddy do.
As far as canon is considered, it might as well be. Maybe they didn't speak after Michigan, but he had to be pretty influential in her life to get her to hire him and to give him the carte blanche he has. And if he had been there 8 years previous to S1, then he's been at PPTH for 13 years. I was rounding off.
And what does socializing off-hours have to do with being a major presence. Cuddy's life (before Rachel, and to a certain extent, since Rachel) has been defined by House. He influences every decision we've seen her make. For our purposes, he's been the major presence in her life for decade(s).
ETA: Which is not to say that this argument goes both ways. I'm not arguing that Cuddy has been the major presence in House's life for this long. But Cuddy can't seem to get House out of her head or life no matter where she goes or what she does.
Ariadne- 02-06-2009
It could be that Cuddy remembered him from Michigan, knew how brilliant he was in spite of his rulebreaking, and thought he would be an asset to her hospital. even though he was often so outrageous. In season 1 she could still control him enough to make him do his job. Back then, he didn't have the carte blanche he has now.
Cuddy's life (before Rachel, and to a certain extent, since Rachel) has been defined by House. He influences every decision we've seen her make. For our purposes, he's been the major presence in her life for decade(s).
I don't remember many decisions that weren't about House because the show is about him but her decision to let Vogler on to the board wasn't about House and I think that her decision to get rid of Vogler in the end was because she realized that Vogler's agenda was to control the hospital and she would never have any autonomy again if Vogler stayed. House was just the catalyst.
When Cuddy socialized, it was with other people not House. I presume that her decision to take the job at PPTH wasn't influenced by House either because she was there first, along with other real-life decisions like where to live and whether it's a house or a condo. I'd like to think that her attempts to date and find a relationship weren't about House either.
But Cuddy can't seem to get House out of her head or life no matter where she goes or what she does.
Unfortunately, I don't find this romantic because the guy is a trainwreck in terms of relationship material right now (not to mention he was with Stacy for 5 years and mourned her for 5 more when he could have been starting a relationship with Cuddy). Cuddy seemed to realize that when she was talking to Wilson in The Itch but since then she looks like she's been dreaming of being able to have a relationship with him. Being unwilling to accept him turning down the the invitation to be at Rachel's ceremony looks to me like she's hoping that he will be a part of her and Rachel's life.
jair- 02-07-2009
It could be that Cuddy remembered him from Michigan, knew how brilliant he was in spite of his rulebreaking, and thought he would be an asset to her hospital
House and Cuddy knew each other well enough at university that he knew she set great emotional store by her desk and he knew that she'd keep it and could deduce where. David Shore said in his interview with Mo Ryan that the sex happened in university (or so Mo thought as the tape got gargled) and everything we've seen in canon supports that, rather than contradicts it.
Taiga- 02-07-2009
I'm with Ariadne. Reluctantly the show has made me believe that Cuddy has been carrying a torch for House since she was an undergrad and that it's a part of the reason she's never been able to make a relationship work. I hate what that does for her character and would love to be proved wrong, but from what we've been shown that's what I have to believe.
In S1 I would have thought it bizarre if Cuddy invited House to her baby's ceremony thingy, but now it just seems like something a friend would do. They don't hang out, but they're something to each other and friend is probably the best word for it until they become lovers. If she begged and pleaded and threatened him with clinic hours to get him to come, yes that's desperate. Just inviting him, nope. And what Chipmunk said: if we see the ceremony and Wilson's not there, then we can get mad at her for not inviting him. Otherwise I at least am just assuming he attends.
wintertide- 02-07-2009
I have a theory about the baby ceremony. I think that maybe Cuddy invites House in Unfaithful, but then that Friday night won't be till The Softer Side. That would explain why House is wearing the suit and tie in the promo picture. Either he is on his way there, or he was called back to the hospital. Also if that is the case, it looks like we won't have to worry about Wilson not being invited, because The Softer Side looks like there will be lots of Wilson/Cuddy scenes.
There would be no excuse for Cuddy not inviting Wilson, but I just thought it was odd that she didn't say he would be here when she was trying to get House to say yes in the preview. Unfortunately this season it seems that they have been doing a lot of things that are OOC and don't make sense, that's why I think there is a possibility that the ceremony could be just a device to get House and Cuddy together, and they will forget all about Wilson.
But if the ceremony is actually in The Softer Side, I am sure Wilson will be a big part of it. I really like the developing and deepening Wilson/Cuddy friendship. I just hope it isn't dropped and forgotten about whenever it isn't directly needed for an episodes plot.
NekoCat- 02-08-2009
Yeah, I'm going with "desperate" for Cuddy inviting House. Then again, that's what I thought when she was shoving her baby in his face. One thing I liked about the ending of Joy to the World was how Cuddy ignored House when she got Rachel. For once, something in her sad, sad life was not about House.
I'll be skipping the episode they have sex. TPTB have every reason to believe it'll be terrible. Hopefully the storyline will finally die after that.
extra_cat- 02-08-2009
I think the House/Cuddy sex is going to be like watching a trainwreck. Their kiss wasn't hot at all IMO. The sex can only be worse. Any House ship is doomed anyway. That's why I wish they'd stop focusing on ships and let the doctors do more mediciney stuff. I wonder if this sexual encounter is going to be soon or if it'll be one of those season-ending things.
Chipmunk_love- 02-08-2009
Their kiss wasn't hot at all IMO. The sex can only be worse.
The kiss wasn't supposed to be hot. It was supposed to be desperate, needy, and messy, and I assume that the sex will be as well (and I mean desperate and needy on the part of both parties.
I wonder if this sexual encounter is going to be soon or if it'll be one of those season-ending things.
In the interest of sweeps, my guess would be that it would come some time in May.
melly- 02-08-2009
I'm putting my money on it being a season ender. That way tptb can have "Huddy" sex, and then S6 can open three months later and other than a few awkward mentions in the beginning they won't have to deal with any fallout. It will have all happened off screen over the summer.
LightMyCandle- 02-08-2009
I'd be willing to watch their 'dance' until the season finale if it meant we can basically just forget this whole thing ever happened next season.