Reality is Almost Always Wrong: Spoiler Discussion Thread

Edi might get fired if he's the one who punches House,or he might quit if he is upset at himself for losing it(one promo picture looked like two others were holding him back).Someone with better knowledge of the Emmys please correct me if I'm wrong,but don't you have to be a permanent cast member of a nominated show to be there?Weren't the three we think are staying there,or were they just at the afterparty?That might or might not be a confirmation if no other of the 40 were there.

Kal, Edi, Peter, Anne and Olivia were all at the Emmys. But, their being there wasn't evidence of who was or wasn't a permanent cast member. Peter Jacobson actually would have been there regardless of his appearance on "House" because he was a part of the cast of "The Starter Wife" which had multiple nominations. But, the rest were there because it was on FOX and they were given attention on the red carpet because the publicists wanted to get some press for the show and the new direction the show is taking. If the Emmys had been on NBC then the casts of "Chuck" or "Life" would have been in the audience. It's always funny to me that it comes down to the network that the show is on. I mean, "30 Rock" had trouble getting tickets for their cast members this year. Meanwhile, half of the FOX network was there regardless. But, if it had been on another network then I'm sure other casts would have had equally hard times.

Given the caveat that the FOX promo people are infamous for showing things in the previews in such a way as to completely distort their actual meaning in the episode so it might all mean something else altogether, I can only say that it might have been adorable (or do I mean plausible?) if it hadn't been for House's 2 1/2 near-death experiences we have already witnessed. If he didn't see the bright light at the end of the tunnel when he "died" during the infarction or when he was shot or when he ODed on drugs and booze, why should a. he see them now and b. Wilson be yelling at him that he hasn't been there when he has? Sticking a fork in an electrial outlet is the only true door in to the afterlife? If it means what it looks like it means, it's just stupid. Given his past experiences, I can't buy it that House's response would be anything more than been-there/done-that/got-the-t-shirt. :roll: thinking about this... and maybe it's not likely. but maybe House just wants to see what made the patient so convinced of the afterlife.

House's 2 1/2 near-death experiences we have already witnessed <. . .> Given his past experiences, I can't buy it that House's response would be anything more than been-there/done-that/got-the-t-shirt. :roll: House got all the T-shirts. There may not be an afterlife, but there is a really nifty hipster T-shirt store on the Other Side and House has a frequent shopper discount card! And some of those shirts are really sweet. *eyes electrical socket* Hmm. But why wouldn't House just say: Dude I've died on the table (during infarction), been shot, in a ketamine coma, and I OD'd. Trust me, nothing there. I've been dead more than you. To me it would make more sense if the patient was all: "Wow, sticking that fork thing in the socket and getting electrocuted was better than LSD, pot, and cocaine combined*" and that House would try it to get a new "high". OK, I don't really think that, but Wilson might. *Actually that may be really bad, I don't indulge so not a clue.

But why wouldn't House just say: Dude I've died on the table (during infarction), been shot, in a ketamine coma, and I OD'd. Trust me, nothing there. I've been dead more than you. To me it would make more sense if the patient was all: "Wow, sticking that fork thing in the socket and getting electrocuted was better than LSD, pot, and cocaine combined*" and that House would try it to get a new "high". OK, I don't really think that, but Wilson might. Those two things were exactly what was going through my head when I rewatched next weeks promo (after I'd gotten over the fact that House is once again freakin' suicidal). Hey... maybe Wilson died for like, 10 minutes and mysteriously came back to life. Therefore, he beat House and knows the Other Side better. Shut up, it could happen. It's a TV show.

Those two things were exactly what was going through my head when I rewatched next weeks promo (after I'd gotten over the fact that House is once again freakin' suicidal). It went through my head too. I was like, "oh come one. You're just beating a dead horse now." maybe Wilson died for like, 10 minutes and mysteriously came back to life. Therefore, he beat House and knows the Other Side better *sighs* Why must you put thoughts like this in my head? Now, I'm gonna be all bummed out when it doesn't happen.

Hey... maybe Wilson died for like, 10 minutes and mysteriously came back to life. Therefore, he beat House and knows the Other Side better. Shut up, it could happen. It's a TV show. Maybe the it's the socket that makes this Near Death Experience special. Maybe the socket is, like, totally a portal to another world, or something. :wizard:

I'm wondering how they're going to have House try to see what's on the other side without the show coming down on one side or the other about whether there's something after this life. I mean, he did tell a patient "nothing" in an episode (was it Informed Consent?) and it's a pretty safe bet he was referring to the infarction. But, somehow having it happen in the moment seems more blatant, if that makes any sense. And, I'd rather the show didn't.

<snip>.....I can only say that it might have been adorable (or do I mean plausible?) if it hadn't been for House's 2 1/2 near-death experiences we have already witnessed. If he didn't see the bright light at the end of the tunnel when he "died" during the infarction or when he was shot or when he ODed on drugs and booze, why should a. he see them now and b. Wilson be yelling at him that he hasn't been there when he has? Sticking a fork in an electrial outlet is the only true door in to the afterlife? If it means what it looks like it means, it's just stupid. Given his past experiences, I can't buy it that House's response would be anything more than been-there/done-that/got-the-t-shirt. :roll: I'm aware that he has been dead before. But I've also unfortunately had to accept that the show runners have a short memory for some of the details of the show (missing muscle back in 'Meaning', Wilson's brother, remembering where characters went to university or even the freaking layout of the hospital, to name a few). And while I consider the cardiac arrest after his infarction a near death experiences, I don't think the OD or even the shooting really count. During the OD he only lost consciousness and his body saved itself. We don't know what exactly happened to him after having been shot. Yes, he hallucinated and 'chose' to fight to live. Did Wilson call it 'minor brain disruptions'? I'm not a doctor, but as I understood it he wasn't dead at any point that we know of. Maybe House thinks that different causes for death will produce different results as far as perception of it goes. Who knows? I was just expressing my excitement about next weeks episode. The possibility that the promo is misleading story wise, will not diminish my anticipation of it. I might be disappointed after having watched, sure, but for now I'm happy. :D So, the PotW dies?

Do you think that when House is all conked out and dead from the electricity socket, we'll go inside his mind and see fuzzy pictures of him running and jumping around in the largest room of musical instruments you've ever seen? And to21be is right, House's heart has only ever stopped once before (during the infarction) - the other few times, he's only been unconscious.

To me it would make more sense if the patient was all: "Wow, sticking that fork thing in the socket and getting electrocuted was better than LSD, pot, and cocaine combined*" and that House would try it to get a new "high". OK, I don't really think that, but Wilson might. Yeah, as I said upthread Now if it were to turn out that he stuck the knife into the socket because someone told him it was a good "buzz", and the arrest was an unfortunate side effect, that I would believe. I won't believe he did it to "look" on the other side. He knows what's there. Random brain-firings. Told Wilson as much in "Three Stories".

I'm blaming it on the promo monkeys and that's not what's really happening at all...I mean, really, the writers can't have forgotten about him coding during the infarction and actually stating his opinion on the matter...they wrote that stuff...it has to mean something else...something....:blink: I just can't think of anything else it could be. Him lying there looking all dead and being resusitated and all and Wilson saying that.... :huh?: Yeah, I know, he's really only been "dead"(ish) that one time--I just think the House Near Death scenario is being over-done. I wish they would stop doing it.

I won't believe he did it to "look" on the other side. He knows what's there. Random brain-firings. Told Wilson as much in "Three Stories". Yeah, but House Loves random brain firings - they make you see really cool stuff :)

I just posted new promo pics for Mirror, Mirror in the Spoilers Only thread. It looks like the old and new ducklings will be involved in this case. There is seriously something weird going on when House is dressed like an old fogey. The thing I'm most curious about is why 13/OW is holding onto House's cane. How many people have actually been allowed to touch the cane? Some of the promos have featured the actors in a scene, but not necessarily in character, so that could be it. It looks like the scene where House and Cuddy are in with the patient in the old-fogey shot. the candidates (with Foreman) are standing outside the room looking in observing. OW is holding Hosue's cane, so he's obviously role playing something where the cane would not be used.

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