Reality is Almost Always Wrong: Spoiler Discussion Thread

I'm asking Santa to make it so that whatever Foreman decides kills 13. He shouldn't be treating her anyway. I find it doubtful that I'll be left reeling from it whatever it is. Nothing related to 13 has lived up to the hype. And is House spending more time on his plumbing than on his patient in an episode? I so hope 13 just go's away. I hate what the writers are doing with this season. To me it is all feeling like a bad FanFic!!! I don't know how much longer I can stick with these on going storylines. Man how I crave the old days, with the old team!! :( :( :(

She should have been turned down, yes, but that would have stood in the way of her character development about wanting to live and Foreman's about finding ways to branch out from House's shadow... After the program, whatever. I don't think House gives a shit if they're together so long as it doesn't screw with his DDX. And as long as they don't screw in the hospital, I don't think Cuddy really gives a shit, either. What I think they should have done was keep her in the drug trial but only identified by a number (which they should have done anyway since its double blind) and have the other investigator treat her and keep her records confidential from Foreman. She could still have had her character development, Foreman could still have branched out from House. But then they wouldn't have had the soap opera stuff. And as long as they don't screw in the hospital, I don't think Cuddy really gives a shit, either. She told Cameron not to date Chase because if they broke up, they couldn't work together and she would have to fire one of them. This is worse because Foreman is Thirteen's immediate superior at work. I'd like Cuddy to care for the sake of continuity and for her character because as Dean of Medicine she's responsible for the residents and fellows but she probably won't.

After the program, whatever. I don't think House gives a shit if they're together so long as it doesn't screw with his DDX. And as long as they don't screw in the hospital, I don't think Cuddy really gives a shit, either. :) Bingo. He'll be too busy trying to come up with ways to annoy new Mommy Cuddy to care about Foreteen, anyway. Heee. She told Cameron not to date Chase because if they broke up, they couldn't work together and she would have to fire one of them. This is worse because Foreman is Thirteen's immediate superior at work. I'd like Cuddy to care for the sake of continuity and for her character but she probably won't. But Cuddy's going to have her hands full, possibly even stepping down temporarily to deal with the baby. She likely won't care simply because her attention will be elsewhere. And while she did warn Cameron not to date Chase, she didn't keep them from doing so.

I actually think "Let Them Eat Cake" was probably the end of forward progression on the House/Cuddy front - they'll still flirt, and House will at some point possibly try to get her to return to the hospital if the maternity leave lasts more than maybe two episodes, but the goal there would be to get them back to their pre-arc relationship. That's what I was thinking, but now the spoilers have me second guessing myself and admittedly rolling my eyes. I hope you're right. I'd love for them to get back, more or less, to the pre-arc relationship. I enjoyed them so much more then.

I don't think they 'll kill off the huddy thing, they can milk the whole will they won't they / one step forward two steps back thing for a few more months and s5 writers dont seem all too concerned about House turning into a soap. As to foreman, I m sure he 'll figure out thirteen is on the placebo and there will be emo angst over how he could switch her to the actual drug bla bla bla ... it would tie in with the little speech the other trial doc gave in JTTW. What sucks overall is I should be looking forward to Jan 19, but I m not. None of the storylines they got going interests me at all ... nor does this whole let's resurrect stories from 3 seasons ago thing they got going. I mean the I m not House, don't wanna be House Foreman issue ... seriously?

That's what I was thinking, but now the spoilers have me second guessing myself and admittedly rolling my eyes. I try not to pay attention to Kristen and Ausiello beyond concretely stated facts - Cuddy being visited by a social worker, for example. Everything else tends to be their own opinions and spec, which is just as reliable as anyone else's. Actually, maybe less - I have a feeling they don't pay as much attention to the show's patterns as obsessive internet nerds like me. *g* I don't think they 'll kill off the huddy thing Well, I guess it depends what you mean by "kill off?" If you mean stopping their interactions entirely or removing the sexual tension factor then, yeah, you're probably right - that will probably never go away entirely. If you mean continuing to move towards a possible imminent romantic/sexual relationship, then it seemed to me - I could be wrong - that 'Let Them Eat Cake'/'Joy to the World' put a cap on that part of the storyline pretty definitively for the time being. There may be friendship-y scenes that shippers can interpret as romantic of House adjusting to Cuddy-with-baby and Cuddy being out of the hospital in general for the next few episodes, but if there's more than that I'll be surprised. For Foreman and Thirteen - I thought their friendship & the kiss were sweet, but there's a lot of potential layers of ickiness there. He's her superior at work AND treating her AND in 'Let Them Eat Cake' he seemed to remind her of her father, and for Foreman there's conceivably some of his mommy issues in play given that he's involved with a woman with a degenerative disease. Add in the House writers' generally shaky hand with romance and, well, wow. Potential trainwreck material. Maybe that'll be the point?

For Foreman and Thirteen...there's a lot of potential layers of ickiness there. He's her superior at work AND treating her... In a general sense, dating a superior/subordinate while also being someone's doctor would cause serious complications and prompt a reaction of 'ickiness', unless we're talking about House and Cuddy. Somehow that causes opposite reactions. :roll: I think you're probably right about the fact that the sexual tension/flirting/pig-tail-pulling interactions between House and Cuddy will never be 'killed off', and it would be strange if they were, because that's what they've always been like around each other. But stepping back from romantic possibilities, then returning to them (if they actually go that route) would be uncreative and boring. Just my opinion, though. Edit: Because words like to go missing on me. Hee.

I am looking forward to seeing how House adjusts to being number two to an infant in Cuddy's world. I don't imagine that the sexual tension, neediness, nagging, affection, pranking, or supporting will ever be eliminated from their relationship since these traits have been essential elements of the show since the pilot. This is not and never will be a conventionally presented romantic pair, so I think that the House/Cuddy relationship will now simmer on the back burner for the remainder of the season, never losing its twisty zest, while Cuddy decides what to do about the baby. On the Foreteen front, I am going to throw this out: what if Thirteen asks Foreman to assist her with a planned suicide when the time comes that she is no longer able to cope with the effects of her disease? I think that could pose larger ethical issues for him than including her in the drug trials while dating her. A Thirteen suicide exploration would also tie in neatly with the long-term theme of House's own self-destructive tendancies.

But stepping back from romantic possibilities, then returning to them (if they actually go that route) would be uncreative and boring. Just my opinion, though. Oh, I totally agree - and it's part of why I found the last arc less than entertaining, that there were one or two points along the way that felt like natural enough stopping points and then some unlikely outside factor came along to keep in going. But, I know that's a YMMV thing. Anyway, though, my guess is that the explicitly-romantic stuff will be back-burnered for the foreseeable future without them ever having a real conversation about it, just as a way of keeping all longterm future options open whether they ever choose to go that way again or not. Just because pretty much no relationship between characters is ever definitively resolved, on this show. will now simmer on the back burner for the remainder of the season, never losing its twisty zest, while Cuddy decides what to do about the baby. Hm, I agree about the first part, but I can't see the baby arc continuing over the whole season - that would mean either a lot of scenes of Cuddy alone outside the hospital, or a lot of House interacting with or about the kid, which is...risky, and should in my opinion be done sparingly. He wouldn't be able to soften around the baby without "shark jump!!" being called by most critics almost instantly, and he can't exactly be a total dick to an infant and stay sympathetic. So my random guess on this arc is 3-4 episodes tops, and then the baby's either gone or almost entirely offscreen. On the Foreteen front, I am going to throw this out: what if Thirteen asks Foreman to assist her with a planned suicide when the time comes that she is no longer able to cope with the effects of her disease? Ah, that would be interesting - my original spec when a spoiler came out about Chase + euthanasia was that it might involve the other Huntington's patient, which is definitely the kind of thing that would make Thirteen and Foreman discuss the issue.

As to foreman, I m sure he 'll figure out thirteen is on the placebo and there will be emo angst over how he could switch her to the actual drug bla bla bla ... it would tie in with the little speech the other trial doc gave in JTTW. I can see this happening, even though the sheet with who gets what is supposed to be under lock and key in pharmacy and nowhere near Foreman because of the study's double-blind status. I hope it doesn't happen because it's so soap opera but I wouldn't be surprised. I wonder what LE meant when she said the House/Cuddy interactions will go back to the way they were before (or something like that). If she keeps the baby, it will be like the first three seasons, where they snark at each other but nothing's going to happen. If she loses the baby, then they may go back to the sexual dance. I really can't see House getting together with Cuddy while she's got an infant. A teen who could stand up to him and snark back maybe, but Cuddy's got to protect a baby from House's jibes and I can't see House changing so much as to suddenly be all nice to babies and little children.

Not sure what episode he's from? Whichever, "torture is the cure" :) My first thought was Insensitive when Chase suggested "torturing" the girl who couldn't feel pain because she would have scattered nerve receptors that could feel pain. So, I'm guessing they use the same approach in Painless.

I simply can't care about Foreman and Thirteen. As long as it only involves their two characters, they can do whatever they like. Make love, make war, blow up the hospital, I'll just tune it out. House and Cuddy will continue their will-they-won't-they mating dance. That's not really a spoiler. I am looking forward to seeing Cuddy adapt to being a mother, as long as it doesn't take over the show or her character. Let it just become part of who she is. Which is a HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATOR, writers, not a Playboy bunny or hilariously incompetant sitcom working mother. At House's trial Cuddy said she was Chief Administrator and Dean of Medicine, two separate positions. My guess is that Cameron will take over the Chief Administrator position. I hope they explain why it's Cameron she chooses, and don't pretend that there aren't any other doctors on the show besides the nine main characters. I'm excited to learn more about Wilson's missing brother. Like the rest of you I'm thinking the appearance of the 'Ordinary People' poster was supposed to tell us something about what's to come, like the 'Touch of Evil' poster did in S3.

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