Pretty Girl Kill Again?: Thirteen

Believe me, it does happen. I work in HR in a hospital and have seen many cases in which two co-workers, doctor/nurse, doctor/doctor, and all other combinations developed crushes. There was a case in which they left their patient in ICU unmonitored to have sex in a different room. Unfortunately for them, the family found out and of course they got fired. I have seen many things happen IRL that have happened on House, and worse!

I don't hate 13. I don't like her either. I just found her boring, just some easy plot-deviced. I would have totally prefered, some other actress. I have nothing againts Olivia Wilde, but I would have prefer someone - older and "uglier" :roll: .. you know for change. This character sound too perfect and that's not helping to love her. Beside, I just see her as a mix of Chase and Cameron's personnalities/roles and as someone who miss Chase and Cameron, I can try but I just don't like her. This character, more than the other two, just remind me how much I dislike this season so far.

Not sure I agree with this. I think Taub has been developed every bit as much as 13. Taub hasn't had all the angst and drama of 13 but I'll grant you that he's also deadly boring. So far, 2 out of the 3 newbies bore me to tears and the third is just a goof. Sorry. I do not find this "true to life" at all. I come from a familiy of "professional women" who worked very hard to get where they are - not medical school, but comparable, and they work in fields with other "professional women". These women tend to be very career oriented and competitive and mature. The idea of developing a "crush" on their boss cause he is funny and easy on the eyes? Even though he treats them like an ass? Not so likely. Last I checked, education had nothing to do with emotions. And since we know that Cameron is not unique in her regard for House, regardless of his asshattery, (Stacy, Cuddy, Alli the teenage stalker, the stewardess on the plane, et al) I'm not sure we're supposed to single her out as being strange. I'm a professional, too. Sometimes I get crushes. Unlike Cameron, I never say anything about them. My crushes tend to go nowhere. Oh well. 13 appears to have no reaction to House whatsover, either personal or professional. I find that unlikely.

Lagniappe: It is somewhat amusing to watch some Cameron supporters attack 13 for some of the very reasons people dissed Cameron - too young, too beautiful, moral high horse, and punishing people with painful medical procedures, making doe eyes at House - but somehow, when Cameron engaged in similar behaviors, it was excusable for whatever reason. Odd. This is an odd phenomenon, indeed. I am one who doesn't like Cameron for the reasons you describe above, and I see way too many similarities between Cameron and Thirteen to like Thirteen. I loved Amber/CTB and I think she would have brought a lot more diversity to the team than Thirteen/Cameron 2.0-Been-There-Done-That. They even look alike! Also, I find it interesting that a new male duckling can be middle-aged and not-conventionally-attractive (Taub), yet the woman needs to be impossibly young and beautiful. At least Amber/CTB was the right age and, though quite attractive, not in the eye-candy sort of way.

I really want to give 13 the benefit of the doubt. I honestly don't see her as a Cam-lite at all. At least until now, I don't notice any attempt of "flirting" in her scenes with House or any high moral directed to patients or colleagues. I don't even think that JM and OW are so much alike. Yes, she's young, beautiful and smart, she has a tragic past (and present and future, it seems) but who hasn't in this show? Chase also has a tragic childhood and Foreman, the neurologist, has a mother with a mental illness. I'd prefer if they had chosen just Taub and Kutner, but they wanted an eye candy and there's nothing wrong with that, as long they don't try to make everything about 13 and she doesn't become another "love interest" to House, I'm fine with her. Just my two cents...

I'm a professional, too. Sometimes I get crushes. Unlike Cameron, I never say anything about them. My crushes tend to go nowhere. Oh well. I don't think there's any age we outgrow getting crushes. However, I do think that taking Cameron's actions as a guide to expressing a crush would not improve most people's chances of it going anywhere. :D And since we know that Cameron is not unique in her regard for House, regardless of his asshattery, (Stacy, Cuddy, Alli the teenage stalker, the stewardess on the plane, et al) I'm not sure we're supposed to single her out as being strange. Her actions in expressing the crush is where I have issues with the storyline, and I do think there was room in the portrayal to interpret her as immature and obsessed, as indeed there was with Alli. I also don't think 13's self-possession around House makes her look poorly written, just because other women have regarded him as attractive. He's supposed to be a singular difficult but charismatic man, and not everyone's going to go for that. 13 keeping her head and being able to zing House back doesn't feel contrived to me. Foreman was always able to do the same. The little peeks into House's soul, on the other hand, are getting worrying.

I also don't think 13's self-possession around House makes her look poorly written, just because other women have regarded him as attractive. He's supposed to be a singular difficult but charismatic man, and not everyone's going to go for that. 13 keeping her head and being able to zing House back doesn't feel contrived to me. Foreman was always able to do the same. The little peeks into House's soul, on the other hand, are getting worrying. I don't think 13 is "poorly" written, per se, but she's becoming a bit storybook IMO. Frankly, I don't think there are too many fields where someone still starting out in their career shouldn't be awed by a much older, esteemed and world famous mentor. Even Foreman was humble enough in the beginning to know that he was working with House because he wanted to learn from him. 13, on the other hand, is far too comfortable drugging House and tying him down for non-consented, invasive biopsies. And, yes, the peering into House's soul--two episodes in a row--aren't just contrived, they're head-scratchingly bizarre and a complete turn-off to her character. I could buy it with Cameron more because we saw that House actually did occasionally share things with her. Wilson did as well. And, frankly, her character was often just used as a means of letting the audience learn House right along with the characters. At this point in the game, 13 isn't offering me anything I don't know except dialogue that rings false coming from her.

bailey: 13, on the other hand, is far too comfortable drugging House and tying him down for non-consented, invasive biopsies. And, yes, the peering into House's soul--two episodes in a row--aren't just contrived, they're head-scratchingly bizarre and a complete turn-off to her character. Yay! Bailey and I agree on something! ;) I knew it would happen eventually! (Unless I'm mistaken, we've had vast differences of opinion about Cameron in the past.)

Yay! Bailey and I agree on something! ;) I knew it would happen eventually! (Unless I'm mistaken, we've had vast differences of opinion about Cameron in the past.) Perhaps we should start a drinking game. Although the amount of times we agree may ensure that no one ever gets drunk. :-)

13, on the other hand, is far too comfortable drugging House and tying him down for non-consented, invasive biopsies. This I do agree with...and not just 13. All the newbies seem comfortable shooting House down. I suspect it is just the writers' attempt to "fast foward" with the new characters so we don't retread the old ground covered by CCF...but it doesn't flow very well - nor bode well for House. I mean, once the ducklings became *that* uppity, it meant they were ready to move on...

This I do agree with...and not just 13. All the newbies seem comfortable shooting House down. I suspect it is just the writers' attempt to "fast foward" with the new characters so we don't retread the old ground covered by CCF...but it doesn't flow very well - nor bode well for House. I mean, once the ducklings became *that* uppity, it meant they were ready to move on... I'm sure the writers are, indeed, trying to integrate these characters in a manner that isn't entirely organic. (Although I can personally think of several varying scenarios that might be a bit more plausible as far as character development goes.) But what really stands out as weird to me is that in many cases, they really are retreading ground that's already been covered. I mean, what is the point of 13 telling House he's miserable or that drugs are a mask? Or Taub telling House that he despises normal? We've seen this done before and done better and yet we're seeing it again....why?

But what really stands out as weird to me is that in many cases, they really are retreading ground that's already been covered. I mean, what is the point of 13 telling House he's miserable or that drugs are a mask? Or Taub telling House that he despises normal? We've seen this done before and done better and yet we're seeing it again....why? Oh, oh! We agree again! I think we both run the risk of inebriation! ;)

Frankly, I don't think there are too many fields where someone still starting out in their career shouldn't be awed by a much older, esteemed and world famous mentor. Even Foreman was humble enough in the beginning to know that he was working with House because he wanted to learn from him. 13, on the other hand, is far too comfortable drugging House and tying him down for non-consented, invasive biopsies. Foreman didn't spend very much time in awe of House--season one had his heaviest characterisation as just like House--by DNR he was taking House on. I also think it makes a difference that the team--not just 13--wanted to do the biopsies because they tied directly into the case. House had them inject the blood to prove it was fine and not the issue that was killing the POTW--and then promptly got sick, making his denial a little suspect. The old team did not have to face this situation. I could buy it with Cameron more because we saw that House actually did occasionally share things with her. Wilson did as well. And, frankly, her character was often just used as a means of letting the audience learn House right along with the characters. At this point in the game, 13 isn't offering me anything I don't know except dialogue that rings false coming from her. Well, one thing 13 is doing is sharing the pain around! I found Cameron's little moments just as false and unnecessary, so I'm really sad the writers may be regifting this trait onto 13. I thought perhaps we might just lose that little device from the show. I still have some hope that this won't be a continuing motif with 13--I bought it in the Huntington's episode because she had a real reason to confront House. I hope it was just poor timing to have another little moment in the next ep. Really poor timing, because Anne Dudek made the most of her moment in the sun without any anvils at all.

I don't think 13 is "poorly" written, per se, but she's becoming a bit storybook IMO. That's what is bugging me about this character. She reminds me of those "smart, beautiful, spunky yet tragic" women in stories that you know right off the bat is destined to be the heroine and /or the hero's love interest. She strikes me as though she made for the sole purpose of "shipping". My biggest fear, however, is actually not that they will ship her with House, but that Thirteen and Chase will bond over their dead mommies , thus freeing Cameron to hop from Chase's bed to House's and turning the show into a bad soap opera. It's an irrational fear (I hope), but one that still makes me cringe at the thought.

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