How many here think that's true?
What is there to think? It's canon ;)
I'm sure the beginning of every Wilson romance is hell for House.
Namaste- 08-31-2007
I'd say it's true, but not because of jealousy, but because I can see House as anticipating the time when Wilson leaves him, just as everyone else has. Maybe he doesn't dwell on it continually, but it's that nagging thought in the back of his mind. (Of course House also fails to recognize that people leave him because he pushes them away, but that's another topic altogether.)
In terms of what Wilson's take on House's fears ... it's probably something that he acknowledges, but also tires of trying to continually remind House that he's not going anywhere.
Lully- 08-31-2007
I really took Bonnie saying that with a grain of salt. It was very much a "I know it's not your fault but...." kind of remark which said to me that while she knew intellectually it wasn't logical to blame House, she really did blame him.
That's how I saw that scene too, she seemed resentful and hurt. While I don't think it's fair to blame House for Wilson and Bonnie's failures, I think House felt a little guilty himself and that's why he took Hector.
Quote:
Your real fear is me having a good relationship.
How many here think that's true?
I believe it's true. Because House fears Wilson leaving and because he is jealous. But what I'd like to know is if Wilson found a good relationship would House interfere?
Ranee- 08-31-2007
Quote:
Your real fear is me having a good relationship.
How many here think that's true?
True IMO. Thing is, I'm not sure House will ever let Wilson get to the stage of having a good relationship. He was fixated on finding out about who Wilson was (he thought) dating in FFL (Wendy) - & I love the double entendre that its House who's the fool for Wilson in the ep - and IMO hell bent on putting an end to it. And Wilson probably understands this himself - & that's partly why he keeps Grace hidden (not just the ethics of the situation) & the date with Cuddy until after the fact.
sweet fern- 08-31-2007
That's a great question Lully. Is House really that selfish? That he would want actually want Wilson to remain unhappy than see him in a happy relationship merely because having Wilson unhappy means House gets more of what he wants from him? I wonder....
Taiga- 08-31-2007
He was fixated on finding out about who Wilson was (he thought) dating in FFL
I've wondered if that was a reaction to Wilson's last relationship, the disasterous affair with a dying patient. Maybe he thought he needed to keep a closer eye on him to make sure Wilson didn't screw up again! He didn't react like that when he thought Wilson was having affairs in S1 or S2, or even when he gave Wilson the theatre tickets to help him see someone naked.
I believe it's true that House fears Wilson having a good relationship because it would mean losing his attention. It is canon that Wilson leaves people, after all.
MissViolet- 08-31-2007
House was suprisingly possessive at even the faintest whiff of romance for Wilson with Grace, Nurse Wendy, Cuddy. That's one reason I think there's a little more going on under the hood than just friends. As to why he doesn't want Wilson to have a happy relationship, he's crazy about Wilson and doesn't want to lose his company. A little selfish, I agree, but that's love, IMO. Despite the potential BGW, I think House is actually the more flirtatious one, in terms of his remarks and physical gestures towards Wilson.
That's how I saw that scene too, she seemed resentful and hurt. While I don't think it's fair to blame House for Wilson and Bonnie's failures, I think House felt a little guilty himself and that's why he took Hector.
I think he took Hector more as a favor to Wilson as payback for stealing his prescription pad. He was pretty hostile towards Bonnie when she tried to blame him for the failed marriage (rightfully so, I think.) I don't think he'd have taken Hector out of compassion for her. But I'm still a bit fuzzy on exactly why he took Hector.
It is canon that Wilson leaves people, after all.
If we are to believe the Hector/Bonnie timeline, House and Wilson have known each other for 17 years. In another episode he mentions House living in the same apartment for 15 years. So they've known each other a long time and have already had some stormy disagreements. I don't think he's afraid of losing Wilson. Even after Wilson moved in with Grace, he was still so eager to get in on House's poker game. I think Wilson enjoys House's company more than the women he dates and this has been at least part of the reason why his marriages didn't work.
Lully- 09-01-2007
I think he took Hector more as a favor to Wilson as payback for stealing his prescription pad.
I think he took Hector because, as Bonnie said, he always needed Wilson and Wilson was always there for him. That's what I meant when I said House felt a little guilty.
It is canon that Wilson leaves people
Is it? You mean that he left his wives to favour House? Or you're talking about him leaving House in MLC?
LightMyCandle- 09-01-2007
I think he took Hector because, as Bonnie said, he always needed Wilson and Wilson was always there for him. That's what I meant when I said House felt a little guilty.
I agree. I think it's cute that once a season (with the exception of S1) House does something to inconvenience himself for Wilson. :)
Jouse- 09-01-2007
He took the patient in the pilot to Wilson's request. Oh, the deleted scene :wub:
Lully- 09-01-2007
Why did they delete that scene??? :cry: Was it too blatant about their relationship?
I also put the scene in B&B (the "they matter") as something that inconvenience House.
Hithah- 09-01-2007
That's how I saw that scene too, she seemed resentful and hurt. While I don't think it's fair to blame House for Wilson and Bonnie's failures, I think House felt a little guilty himself and that's why he took Hector.
I agree. This seems to be a pattern with House. He wrongs a close friend and years upon years later, he finally finds it within himself to do something somewhat compassionate to attempt to either right the wrong or lessen a sense of guilt he'd never admit to having.
Look at Crandall, the pre-Wilson Wilson. House relates the tale of messing around with Crandall's girlfriend instead of trying to talk her into committing to Crandall. Given the sheepish way he tells Wilson the story, and his quick justifications ("I was doing him a favor! She was nuts!"), I think he felt guilty about that. So what does he end up doing, many years after the fact? Lying to Crandall and Leona about the paternity test, which was definitely an act of compassion.
So I'm not surprised to see House confronted with the reality that he helped wreck the Bonnie/Wilson marriage, denying the charges ("I didn't hurt you. I didn't even marry you, cleverly hoping to avoid moments like this one."), and in the end doing something to help assuage his guilt and/or make up for what he did.
Taiga- 09-01-2007
Lully, I was referring to Wilson leaving his wifes.
Lully- 09-01-2007
I see, Taiga.
My only problem is that it implies that House is right about Wilson leaving the wife when she was "fixed". He may be, but quite often we see that House is wrong about Wilson's motivations. So I wonder if this is really the true.
I guess the marriages ended because they started for the wrong reasons, then Wilson chose House's company and pushed the wives away.
Their neediness attracted Wilson, but House was much more needy and interesting. They really never had a chance to keep Wilson.
I swear I had a point about all this, but I just can find it anymore... :roll:
RNwannabe- 10-02-2007
Regarding "Alone":
I just have to say how cute I think this is. When H & W are at the patient's house, and Wilson is cutting out letters, House comments on the contents of the pts. diary. When he gets to the part about the "sad banalities" Wilson looks up and appears interested. Ooohh!! He can smell the neediness!!