hugely inappropriately "happy" and manic When? Quite often I found House's behaviour with patients inappropriete, but he was actually nice with Addie (IMO). Sweet Fern, I got your point and it makes sense, but the idea that Wilson distrust House's abillities as a doctor or that he thinks that House is just a lucky guy don't work for me. We already saw how much Wilson trusts House's skills (Autopsy is my best example, but there're others) so my question is what happened between seasons 2 and 3 that made Wilson doubt House? My only answer was the shooting. All the changes in Wilson's behaviour only make sense if we take that event into account, and I repeat that it's just my opinion. What House does is unique That's how I saw that scene too. And he was trying to convince Tritter about House's importance as a doctor. I think this comes down more to Wilson's feelings about himself and his own failures rather than his worth as a doctor ITA. A great part of that scene was about Wilson's self-esteems problems.

Okay, I just composed a long answer about House and the anti-depressants which also had a long quote from the episode in it and I was denied permission to post it. I hope it was just that the post was too long rather than me being in trouble again.... :cry: ETA: Whew! This posted so it must have been the length. I can't go through all that again right now--I hadn't saved it :x ...but I will come back later after I have recharged my batteries and post it all again.

Sorry about double posting but I don't know how else to do it.... This is the scene which demonstrates to me exactly how the anti-depressants did not work for House. In this scene, his behavior is out of control and inappropriate. I will discuss it in more detail later though for me it speaks for itself. HOUSE: I'm sorry. Addie you're dying. JODIE: Are you sure? HOUSE: Yes. Your infections will get worse, the toxins will spill into your blood. ADDIE: How long? HOUSE: Two days, maybe less. You have a condition called... ADDIE: It doesn't matter. HOUSE: It's a very rare protein deficiency that only... ADDIE: I don't want to hear it. HOUSE: Ok. It's what's killing you. This is what's killing you, you're not interested in what's killing you? ADDIE: Will it make any difference? Will I live any longer? JODIE: Please, could you just leave? HOUSE: What's the point in living, without curiosity? Without craving the... ADDIE: So I'm screwing up my last few hours because I wont listen to you? BEN: Get out of here. HOUSE: It's, it's, it's like the... dark matter in the universe... ADDIE: You're smiling. HOUSE: No I'm not. You can only diagnose a problem by looking at what's... Missing... oh god... I have to go.

I'm having the same problem Sweet, but it is not because it was a long post (at least not with my post). I ask some of the mods to help.

That comment didn't make sense to me either because the math doesn't work out. Wilson said that House saves more lives than he does. In S2 Wilson estimated that House saves 30 people a year. That's less than three a month. How many patients does Wilson treat? We've been given the impression that it's more than one at a time like House, that's for sure. Overall cancer has a mortality rate of 50%; are we to believe that Wilson only treats 60 patients a year - five a month?

No, the math really doesn't add up at all. I suppose it one of those things we are just supposed to take their word for. Unless the emphasis is on saves and Wilson treats terminal cancer patients almost exclusively in which case he could treat far more but doesn't save as many? In which case it would be more an issue of specialty than of ability. If Wilson chooses to treat mostly terminal patients, the goal really isn't to save them, is it? So why compare them? The only way I can make it work out is that Wilson is saying that what House does--saving patients--is more important than what Wilson does--treating the terminally ill to the best of his ability and only rarely saving one while House regularly saves his. Which kinda makes sense but requires the assumption that Wilson's primary case load is terminally ill cancer patients for whom there is very little hope and have we had anything to suggest that? House is the last resort of the undiagnosable critically ill and Wilson is the last resort of the otherwise terminal cancer patient? I don't know. Certainly if this were the case it would make sense that House would save more because the variety he comes up against is probably going to include a lot more curable illnesses than last-resort cancers....hmmm...maybe....Rowan Chase, Grace, maybe others could fit and I guess he could be the Wonder Boy oncologist if he had a reputation for saving patients other doctors had given up as terminal, even if he didn't do so as often as House does. I still want to explicate the "smiling" scene but I'm not sure if it belongs here or in the House and Wilson thread or the House thread. It started here because I suggested that Wilson was wrong about House, depression and anti-depressants and others disagreed but is it more about House or House and Wilson together? Advice please.

Sweet Fern, I'd love to heard why House's behaviour was so wrong to you. I think the House's thread is the best place, but if you also want to talk about how ethical/unethical they were with each other, the friendship thread get my vote. I'll follow you to wherever place you chose :wink:

requires the assumption that Wilson's primary case load is terminally ill cancer patients for whom there is very little hope and have we had anything to suggest that? Well, his patients are always dying. Either he specializes in cancers with a high mortality rate or, as we've often joked, he's a crappy oncologist. House is the last resort of the undiagnosable critically ill and Wilson is the last resort of the otherwise terminal cancer patient? That's my fanwank. There's nothing to support it really, except that Wilson's patients are always dying. He also doesn't specialize in any particular type of cancer or type of patient.

Put it in the House and Wilson thread--and it took me all morning so I hope it makes sense!!! :lol:

While looking back through a S1 transcript I found an even better nickname: Jimmy Wilson, the Cy Young of medicine.

Wilson is the last resort of the otherwise terminal cancer patient? IMO there's evidence to support that, apart from the idea that at a university hospital he'd likely get primarily terminal/late stage patients - not just Grace, but Rowan - he only had a few months as did Andie before House got involved (& even then she only had an extra year).

During season one Wilson was called on the ER to see patients with suspicious lesions, like Victoria in Histories. I suppose it wasn't just that case. But in seasons 2 and 3 I think they decided to give him only the more serious cases, like Andy, Grace and the boy in Family (Nicky?)

I don't think that's been mentioned specifically, just that he's good at telling people that they're dying. (Personally I'd rather have a doctor who was good at stopping me from dying!). During season one Wilson was called on the ER to see patients with suspicious lesions, like Victoria in Histories. I suppose it wasn't just that case. But in seasons 2 and 3 I think they decided to give him only the more serious cases, like Andy, Grace and the boy in Family (Nicky?) There was the baseball player in Sports Medicine too. If you wanted you could argue that Wilson was brought in because the patient was rich and famous. Lully, I wondered about Nick in Family. Three occurrences of his leukemia and they were just now trying a bone marrow transplant? Maybe Matty hadn't been born yet when Nick got it the first time. Anyway, either it means that Wilson has been treating this kid for many years or his case was given to Wilson because Wilson specializes in the hard cases.