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LightMyCandle- 08-14-2007

Other than House, Grace, and maybe the ex-wives, have we seen other examples of where his good intentions actually being dangerous or detrimental to others? I don't think so but do we really need more than that? That's two or three examples, possibly five if you count all of his ex-wives but we don't really have the details on that, especially wife numb3r one.

Taiga- 08-14-2007

Other than House, Grace, and maybe the ex-wives, have we seen other examples of where his good intentions actually being dangerous or detrimental to others? No, but who else have we seen him interact with?!

Lully- 08-14-2007

I guess a prime example of this would be his betrayal of House in Finding Judas. I don't really think that this one is a good exemple because, personally, I don't see it as a betrayal at all. It was more an act of desperation at that point. The bet in Detox and the lie in Meaning are more appropriate, I guess. Other than House, Grace, and maybe the ex-wives, have we seen other examples of where his good intentions actually being dangerous or detrimental to others Not that I remember and I hope that we won't have to see any other exemple any time soon!

Asynca- 08-15-2007

Just to go back to a previous point regarding the contrast between Wilson's behaviour towards a patient in Autopsy vs. Family - I don't think it's self-esteem issues that caused him to defer to House and House's expectations and advice with relation to patient care in Family. I think Wilson's judgment is clouded when it comes to House - and he put House's desires ahead of the patient's. House wanted to do something upsetting and controvertial to a patient that was unrelated to diagnosing him, there was no right-or-wrong answer as to whether or not it should be done - so in the split second Wilson was forced to make a descision, he went with House. He later regretted it, but it doesn't change the fact that he made the decision in the first place. On the other hand, it's a sweet suggestion (and further comfirmation of something we learned in the Tritter arc), that Wilson has two things that work for him: his job and House. He consistently puts House ahead of his job. So House is the most important thing in his life.

Lully- 08-15-2007

I never thought about the difference in Wilson's behaviour in that way, but I like the idea. But I guess that there's another factor that caused the change. In Autopsy we saw that Wilson had total faith in House's abilities to diagnose Andie. He went along with the risky procedure without any doubts. In Family Wilson's faith wasn't so blind anymore. He seemed insecure not about himself , but about House's capacity to call the right diagnose. In the end he followed House's idea because, as you said, he put House's desires above of everything (and because he knows how good House really is). After everything that happened in the Tritter arc I'm not surprise he acted that way because House broke his trust. I just hope that they find a way to trust each other again. I also hope this makes some sense...

LightMyCandle- 08-15-2007

I just hope that they find a way to trust each other again. See, I think it's weird that House still does trust Wilson (or at least he did up until Resignation). I mean Wilson definately doesn't trust House that much, look how instantly paranoid he got (rightfully so) when House bought him coffee and yet House had been taking coffee from Wilson (a man he normally has to steal food and beverages from) for a couple of weeks without a second thought. I have no answer I just thought it was interesting and odd, and maybe a little bit sweet.

Lully- 08-16-2007

You're right. It's odd that House still seems to trust Wilson so much. I have some ideas - crazy ones, if you ask me - but this discussion belongs to the Huge Ego, Sorry thread, I guess :) I'll to put them there when they start to make some sense...

starhanyou- 08-18-2007

Does it strike anyone else that Wilson's ability to read House has been affected by his deepening depression?

Lully- 08-18-2007

Just my opinion, but I think Wilson still can read House pretty well. Why do you think he can't?

Taiga- 08-18-2007

It's odd that House still seems to trust Wilson so much. I think he trusts him because he knows that everything Wilson does is to help House. He can screw that up pretty badly sometimes, but the underlying motivation is always love (and I don't mean that in a slashy way).

starhanyou- 08-18-2007

Just my opinion, but I think Wilson still can read House pretty well. Why do you think he can't? Well, the whole worrying about House's wings melting in episode 1, season 3, for one.

LightMyCandle- 08-18-2007

Well, the whole worrying about House's wings melting in episode 1, season 3, for one. True, but he was right about the CIPA patient in Insensitive and he was right about the depression in Half-Wit, all of which is post-Meaning.

Lully- 08-18-2007

whole worrying about House's wings melting Again JMO, but I guess Wilson was trying to protect House as he always did. It was stupid and pointless, but we can rationalize Wilson's actions if we remember that House had been shot just two month earlier by an angry patient (he was a patient, wasn't he?). He concluded that a more humble House was a more safe House. If a patient didn't have any complains about him, there was less chance he was going to try to kill House. It was an act of desperation, the same way that the deal with Tritter was. What he forgot, or didn't read well, was how much House needed to be right. But he was also under a lot of stress and was really worried about House. He read him right about the fake cancer thing and about the anti-depressants, among other things. This is a very polemic subject and maybe you don't agree with me but I always try to understand Wilson more than I try to understand House. :)

Norah- 08-18-2007

I think Wilson reads House well when he's not under stress and a lot of worry. I'm curious about this: how well does House read Wilson? I tend to think Wilson reads House better than House reads Wilson, and maybe it's because House is too narcissistic to give as much thought to Wilson as Wilson does to House.

Taiga- 08-19-2007

how well does House read Wilson? Compared to how well he reads everyone else, not very well at all. Doris Egan once wrote in her blog that Wilson is the only character who can successfully lie to House, that has to mean something.