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MintAnemia- 11-05-2007

I'm bitter that every single doctor in this hospital seems to be a surgeon. Including Chase, for goodness' sake. Glad I'm not the only one surprised that everyone is a FANTASTIC surgeon as well. Medical =/= surgical! Scrubs got it right, why can't House?! I'm bitter because of the strike. It's probably gonna delay House later on in the year. Frick. Poor writers, not getting what they deserve, sticking it to the collective Man... Oy vey.

Aurora- 12-05-2007

I'm bitter because House fired 13 and Amber from the final four (I think it's Amber, anyway -- who was it that House kept calling "Manipulative Bitch"?) Amber was a great character, was the only person snarky back to House on a routine basis (besides Cuddy, when she showed up), and had that complex where she hated to lose. Usually characters like that end up being plot-forced to lose because it shows them they can't always win or something. But can't we have one show where that point isn't shoved at us? Can't the desperate-to-win character actually win for once? Can we skip the you-can't-win-all-the-time lecture, for those of us who sympathize with the competitive? 13 was the other developed newbie -- the two men really didn't matter. They just had some comedic effect and existed. The women had real personalities and problems and conflicts. And then Cuddy tells him to hire 13. Darnit, I wanted Amber. She deserves to win for once. Sigh. Also, we get the idea that House hates religion. Please, stop beating this point to death. And bringing in that "person's cancer disappeared due to a freak virus" was a little bit over the top, as if put in only to prove House's point that supernatural things can't exist.

houserocket7- 12-05-2007

I'm bitter because they fired Amber who was one of the only attractive women who didn't swoon over House, was strong and smart and didn't dressed like a tart. I'm bitter because the reason she was fired would never have been a reason to fire a man. Her desire to find the right answer at all costs is the very definition of House. She could learn to lose.

galaxygirl- 12-05-2007

I'm bitter because they fired Amber who was one of the only attractive women who didn't swoon over House, was strong and smart and didn't dressed like a tart. I'm bitter because the reason she was fired would never have been a reason to fire a man. Her desire to find the right answer at all costs is the very definition of House. She could learn to lose. I agree, except that her skirts were super short ;) But yeah, I doubt a man would have been fired for the reason Amber got fired. I'm bitter because at the end, I loved her more than anyone else on the show, except for Wilson.

bailey- 12-05-2007

I'm bitter because they fired Amber who was one of the only attractive women who didn't swoon over House, was strong and smart and didn't dressed like a tart. I'm bitter because the reason she was fired would never have been a reason to fire a man. Her desire to find the right answer at all costs is the very definition of House. She could learn to lose. I agree, except that her skirts were super short ;) But yeah, I doubt a man would have been fired for the reason Amber got fired. I'm bitter because at the end, I loved her more than anyone else on the show, except for Wilson. For what it's worth, I don't think a man would have gotten hired for the reason 13 did.

galaxygirl- 12-05-2007

I'm bitter because they fired Amber who was one of the only attractive women who didn't swoon over House, was strong and smart and didn't dressed like a tart. I'm bitter because the reason she was fired would never have been a reason to fire a man. Her desire to find the right answer at all costs is the very definition of House. She could learn to lose. I agree, except that her skirts were super short ;) But yeah, I doubt a man would have been fired for the reason Amber got fired. I'm bitter because at the end, I loved her more than anyone else on the show, except for Wilson. For what it's worth, I don't think a man would have gotten hired for the reason 13 did. Also agree with that.

Poeia- 12-05-2007

I'm bitter because they fired Amber who was one of the only attractive women who didn't swoon over House, was strong and smart and didn't dressed like a tart. I'm bitter because the reason she was fired would never have been a reason to fire a man. Her desire to find the right answer at all costs is the very definition of House. She could learn to lose. I agree, except that her skirts were super short ;) But yeah, I doubt a man would have been fired for the reason Amber got fired. I'm bitter because at the end, I loved her more than anyone else on the show, except for Wilson. For what it's worth, I don't think a man would have gotten hired for the reason 13 did. Also agree with that. As I can't figure out why 13 got hired, I'll probably agree with that. I know House played games to have Cuddy order her hiring so it wouldn't be all male. But I'm clueless as to why House wanted 13 instead of CTB as the "token" female.

galaxygirl- 12-05-2007

She's 'mysterious' and 'he can't figure her out'. Wasn't that how they promoted her to us the viewer?

girl_from_the_bus_stop- 12-17-2007

She's 'mysterious' and 'he can't figure her out'. Wasn't that how they promoted her to us the viewer? Isn’t that the definition of a Mary Sue? :shock:

Lagniappe- 12-17-2007

But I'm clueless as to why House wanted 13 instead of CTB as the "token" female. Amber was not a team player. For her, it was all about shafting the others and doing whatever it took to get ahead and win. That might make her interesting, but it is unlikely to make her useful on a diagnositc TEAM. I think House did the right thing in firing her. She wouldn't bend, so she would likely break and patients would suffer. We already have House. We didn't really need another muleheaded "jerk" - even in female form. Oddly, many people seemed to have hated CTB until the last couple episodes... which is a tribute to the actress. But how soon people forget. And I think 13 showed herself to be very good at diagnositics. She isn't just "mysterious". She is a capable doctor... and yes she contributed to the death of Stark, but so did others and she isn't the first duckling to bring about someone's untimely demise, so I don't think House would toss her just for that.

LightMyCandle- 12-17-2007

Amber was not a team player. For her, it was all about shafting the others and doing whatever it took to get ahead and win. That might make her interesting, but it is unlikely to make her useful on a diagnositc TEAM. I think House did the right thing in firing her Word. There was no way she was going to be able to be part of a functioning team, that's what got her fired. I lot of people were really upset about House choosing 13 over CTB and said it was just because 13's mysterious and he thinks she's hot or whatever but I think he he fired CTB for just the reason stated above. CTB was incredibly stubborn. She wanted the job and nothing was going to stop her. A personality like that isn't going to work on a team. I hated CTB at first but then she was just kind of there. I didn't like her or dislike her.

houserocket7- 12-17-2007

Amber was not a team player. For her, it was all about shafting the others and doing whatever it took to get ahead and win. That might make her interesting, but it is unlikely to make her useful on a diagnositc TEAM. I think House did the right thing in firing her Word. There was no way she was going to be able to be part of a functioning team, that's what got her fired. I lot of people were really upset about House choosing 13 over CTB and said it was just because 13's mysterious and he thinks she's hot or whatever but I think he he fired CTB for just the reason stated above. CTB was incredibly stubborn. She wanted the job and nothing was going to stop her. A personality like that isn't going to work on a team. I hated CTB at first but then she was just kind of there. I didn't like her or dislike her. But that's working from the premise that House wanted a team. House doesn't want a team. He's never wanted a team. He didn't use CCF as a team, he used them as sounding boards (who could bounce ideas back to him with a new spin) forcing him to look at the problem from another perspective as well as running all the tests he wanted done repeatedly and usually accurately. The previous ducklings weren't a team or his team. They didn't work together to solve problems, they proposed answers based on their backgrounds and experiences. They had their own agendas and ambitions. They fought for their positions, but in the end House (usually) made the call). They were external manifestations of brainstorming (thus the fake CCF in Airbourne were just as effective as the real ones. Amber had the smarts, the drive and the competitive nature to find the answer - who does that sound like? If she believed she was right she would go toe to toe with House and not swoon because of his tortured soul or beautiful blue eyes (she's a stronger woman than me...) Was she unwilling to be wrong, probably, but she is young and House would have been capable of teaching her humility just as he probably had to learn it....which could have helped him learn a little more too. None of the new ducklings seem to have the character strength of Amber or of the old guy (who wasn't a doctor) but earned House's respect as a substitute father figure (IMO) I like their dynamics and the potential dramatic developments those dynamics entailed. The new ducklings seem to be destined for a return to the old dynamics, so why move CCF out? Just my opinion.

Ranee- 12-17-2007

Amber was not a team player. For her, it was all about shafting the others and doing whatever it took to get ahead and win. That might make her interesting, but it is unlikely to make her useful on a diagnositc TEAM. I think House did the right thing in firing her While Amber wasn't being a team player, its not like House exactly an exemplar in that field. Nor was Foreman for that matter until his s4 castration. IMO it would have been interesting to see her evolve within the group (hey, look growth arc!). Plus I'm not certain that the assessment of her not being a team player was completely accurate - she clearly knew how to work well with Chase. OTH , its just one more thing that adds to 13's perfection as a Mary Sue & complete & utter boringdom as a dramatic character. One thing Amber never was is bland - which I find 13 to be in spades.

bailey- 12-17-2007

IMO it would have been interesting to see her evolve within the group (hey, look growth arc!). I'd definitely rather see a growth arc of that magnitude versus the growth arc of watching 13 try to become interesting. Okay, something that I'm legitimately bitter about? I'm bitter at the thought that 13 is perceived to be some sort of Cameron from a better starting point; more mature, less naive. I've always thought that the whole point of Cameron's character was precisely that she was naive and immature in many areas and she was on a deliberate growth arc. (Albeit, a growth arc which evidently includes some detours.) Seeing 13 so calm, cool and collected actually makes me thankful that she wasn't there in the beginning of the show because I'd be truly wondering what her dramatic point was. (Not that I'm not wondering that now, but still....)

extra_cat- 12-17-2007

I'm bitter that 13, Taub, and Kutner will still be part of House after this writers' strike hiatus. The new ducklings seem to be destined for a return to the old dynamics, so why move CCF out? That statement just reminded me that despite the waiting, things probably won't be any better post-strike than they have been the first 9 episodes. :( I'd definitely rather see a growth arc of that magnitude versus the growth arc of watching 13 try to become interesting. Oh, didn't you get the memo? 13 is interesting by virtue of being "mysterious." I mean, how can you not find interesting someone known by nothing more than a number? Bleh.