Oh, yes! The sex speech was funny specially because Chase's reaction. I found completely believable her direct denials to Tritter in "Finding Judas" and then Wilson in "Resignation" that she had any residual feelings for House. I do think she is finally over him. You mean the Wilson and Cameron chat in the elevator? The episode was "The Jerk", actually, and she also said "nobody does (believes me)" which I found a nice touch. I happily believed her. By the end of the season I got the feeling that Cameron was starting to heal from her crush. About time!

In the words of the X-Files, I want to believe she's over House. Unfortunately, I don't believe she is or rather DS isn't over the HAM.

I think Cameron has a sense of humor -- witness the "jello shots" line or "I'm hitting that" bit -- but I think she keeps it locked up. I agree with this - she is funny sometimes, often in a very deadpan or ironic way. She's rarely what I would think of as lighthearted, but that's not that surprising, because I think Cameron takes being taken seriously very seriously. :lol: As to the rehearsed sound, it's hard to say - "jello shots" and "i'm in the room" were perfectly timed moments. "I'm hitting that" didn't sound as natural, but she was also supposed to be aggravated, so that makes sense.

Don't crush my hopes GG I still have at least six months of wishful thinking! If I can control myself and don't read spoilers, that's it. Which obviously won't happen! :roll:

"i'm in the room" were perfectly timed moments. But that wasn't a joke. I mean, it was funny to us but she wasn't making a joke she was ticked that he called her easy while she was in the room. I want to believe she's over House. Unfortunately, I don't believe she is or rather DS isn't over the HAM. ITA. Logically, I have no problem believing she is over House but I'm not convinced that DS is over Cam and House together and I admit, it frightens me

See, I didn't find these particular bits humorous. She sound annoyed and a little angry to me. I'm not saying that she doesn't have any sense of humor, but I think it's very hard to her to show it. Maybe it's because she's afraid of losing control, or it's because she thinks that people wouldn't see her as a "serious doctor" if she was more playful. Or maybe she really is humourless (is this a word ???) and bitter. I think she sounded annoyed and angry because she isn't a good actress. I doubt that she has any comedic ability as an actress at all. At least, it doesn't seem like she does from what I've seen of her on House. I want to believe she's over House. Unfortunately, I don't believe she is or rather DS isn't over the HAM. I don't believe David Shore was ever into HAM in the first place. The whole thing just screams network interference to me--put the pretty young thing with the lead. And I don't understand the comments I've seen elsewhere about how Shore should put finality on HAM if it really is over (as if it were ever a thing to begin with--at least, a thing on House's part, which only seemed to be a crush Cameron had). Anything that might have been I thought was pretty much squashed with House catching Cameron and Chase and not caring, and then Cameron's crush seemed to end in the season finale last year.

And I don't understand the comments I've seen elsewhere about how Shore should put finality on HAM if it really is over (as if it were ever a thing to begin with--at least, a thing on House's part, which only seemed to be a crush Cameron had). Anything that might have been I thought was pretty much squashed with House catching Cameron and Chase and not caring, and then Cameron's crush seemed to end in the season finale last year. I completely agree with this - and I think that the comments about DS needing to put finality to HAM have more to do with a refusal to see that he already has. What hasn't helped is the re-raising of the "he promised s4 HAM" yells - except 1) I'm not sure he ever did (not romantic anyway) & 2) IMO its pretty clear that whatever the plans TPTB might have had 2 years ago for HAM (or anything else for that matter) have been tossed out the door in light of the s4 spoilers.

The "I'm in the room" was a funny line for JM, not for Cameron. I think she sounded annoyed and angry because she isn't a good actress. To be fair, I read an interview where JM mentioned that Cameron is so serious and never smiles and laughs. She's not trying to portray her as lighthearted and funny. the "he promised s4 HAM" yells - except 1) I'm not sure he ever did (not romantic anyway) He didn't promise S4 HAM. What happened was that the subject came up somehow in an interview and he said that he didn't want to say anything more about House and Cameron's relationship in light of what they were planning for season 4. Everyone became hysterical (including me) because we thought he meant that House and Cameron would "get together" in season 4. Instead season 3 ended with Cameron committing to Chase. THAT's what he didn't want to spoil, it seems. I'm spoiler-free but I know there's speculation on Huddy in S4, so he may have been referring to that too.

I completely agree with this - and I think that the comments about DS needing to put finality to HAM have more to do with a refusal to see that he already has. I think it is less refusal than it is caution. At least, it is with me. I've become increasingly aware of how superstitious I really am--as if believing and stating that the HAM is over will somehow jinx it and bring it back! And sometimes if you want something very badly and it looks as if it might actually be coming true...you don't want to anger the gods by being cocky about it or they must just change their minds and zap with you with a thunderbolt. So not so much that I refuse to believe as that I'm afraid to.... :whistle: I have a question though...if Cameron really is over House...what's the point of her being on the show any more? It's not really an ensemble in terms plot--almost everything has to revolve around House it seems to me. I just can't muster enough interest in a mentor/pupil or colleague relationship between House and Cameron--mostly because Cameron's personal issues always seem to overshadow her development as a doctor. With Foreman there are all his unresolved issues about what's him and what's House and the kind of doctor he really wants to be and with Chase it's that he has learned what he needs from House and is now working on confidence and backbone. But, with Cameron all I can come up with is that she finally seems to have gotten over her inability to deliver bad news and watch/let a patient die (which was sooo implausible anyway--don't most doctors have to deal with that at the lastest when they are interns???). Oh, I know! Look at what House said to Foreman and to Chase: Foreman isn't ready--he hasn't learned and processed all he can from House; Chase has either learned all he can or hasn't learned anything so he's ready to go either way. Obviously, it's the former for Chase. Maybe it's the latter from Cameron: she just doesn't have what it takes to learn and use what House has to offer! Yep, it works for me. One isn't ready yet, one is ready and the other never will be ready....so why are they still on the show again?

I think it is less refusal than it is caution. At least, it is with me. Me too. I'm just afraid to believe that HAM is really over for good. One isn't ready yet, one is ready and the other never will be ready....so why are they still on the show again? First off, I think that's a great summary of the three of them. Why are they still on the show? Because they have fans, I guess. If Cameron is really over House what's her purpose on the show? To be Chase's girlfriend? Cameron and Chase are the only two who have had a plot that didn't revolve around House, so maybe she'll do fine on her own. I just don't want her around House. I was watching AYA-Resignation last night and I realized that aside from the awesome H/W interaction the main reason I love those episodes is because Cameron' barely around House and in HT-Resignation she's barely there at all. (aside from that bizzare bedroom scene in Resignation.) I just want all of S4 to be like those four eps.

why are they still on the show again? Don't ask me, I'm ready to say goodbye to them all and welcome a new batch of ducklings. Ones who don't fall in love with House.

He didn't promise S4 HAM. What happened was that the subject came up somehow in an interview and he said that he didn't want to say anything more about House and Cameron's relationship in light of what they were planning for season 4. Everyone became hysterical (including me) because we thought he meant that House and Cameron would "get together" in season 4. Instead season 3 ended with Cameron committing to Chase. THAT's what he didn't want to spoil, it seems. I'm spoiler-free but I know there's speculation on Huddy in S4, so he may have been referring to that too. Taiga, that is a great explanation. It makes a lot of sense to me, also in light of comments we heard during late s3 about the timing on when DS decided to pair Chase & Cameron. I think it is less refusal than it is caution. At least, it is with me. Probably a good idea, I'm just locked into this state of denial :lol: (:there will be no HAM, there will be no HAM:) if Cameron really is over House...what's the point of her being on the show any more? I have no idea what DS will do, but I can speculate about all the kids. The "Chase is ready, Foreman is not" idea - I'm speculating they are going to flip the roles they've previously had, Foreman needs to come back with some humility & less ego & Chase will get his own gig & be someone House whom has to ask things from &, as opposed to previously Foreman being the naysayer & Chase along for the ride & we might development arcs for them both. Cameron OTH has been boxed into a hole, if/when she comes back she's either bringing Chase back or being brought back by Chase. Where they take her next - who knows, but they IMO may have built themselves an out if needed. I always wondered why she went to Chase before she resigned. Watched Insensitive again recently & realized House says Cameron will find someone after she leaves here. So, not Chase (she hasn't left yet when she goes to him) & an opportunity to have her exit with Sebastian Charles, Tom, or anyone else they come up with if needed???

why are they still on the show again? As much as I like Chase, I think they are making a mistake in keeping them around. It isn't an ensemble show. House is the star and if they aren't working for him, it's time for them to move on. I'm surprised FOX hasn't asked for a duckling spin-off, considering the popularity of the show, and that would be a good way to keep fans of the ducklings from getting pissed and tuning out, although I thoroughly believe that they could get all new ducklings, ditch the old ones, and not lose a single rating point. I think the overwhelming majority watch for House.

As much as I like Chase, I think they are making a mistake in keeping them around So do I. My feelings are, either keep the show as is, or if you must get new ducklings lose the old ones, don't keep them and bring on new people. Sebastian Charles, Tom, or anyone else they come up with if needed??? As much as I say I don't want to know about Cameron's past, I have always sort of wanted that Joe guy to show up.