Some of her actions with collegues and patients are extremely unethical and disrespectful, yet I don't remember anyone on the show call her on that. I can agree that maybe it was the intention since the beginning to show the audience her damage, but for me just seemed they were supporting her actions no matter how bad it will seem. All the other characters are damage, but the writers don't give then a pass. There's always someone pointing their "bad" behavior. Yes. This is a huge problem with Cameron for me. I see her doing horrible or foolish or questionable things but I don't get any validation from the show that my perceptions are correct. (I also have this problem with Wilson to some extent but this is the Cameron threads so...) I don't know if it's intentional "ambiguity" (we're supposed to be clueless about her?) or they are being too subtle--or just too subtle for me. I don't think it's that I'm just wrong because other obviously smart people seem to agree with me... :lol: And the meaning isn't so illusive when it comes to most of the others so why just with her? I don't want to take a cheap shot and just blame it all on JM but I have to think her abilities--or lack of--must be part of the problem. I don't want to be too harsh on her because beside the acting god that is HL (not mention RSL) very few actors her age are going to look good. Though JS does manage it! :wink: I haven't seen LE in anything else so I can't compare there but I quite frequently see OE acting too. The only other thing I've seen JM in was that Ben Affleck Christmas movie and compared to that, her work in House is emmy-worthy. I've seen better in high school drama productions. But some of it has to be in the writing and directing too because she can't be that bad to come off so poorly even with expert and sympathetic direction--can she? Either they don't know what they want or are mistaken in believing they are getting it across, at least as far as I am concerned. darn. Now I'm all confused again. :x

I also don't want to blame the whole thing on JM's acting abilities. The only other thing I've seen her in is Stir of Echoes and I don't think that's much to go on, because she had a small part, albeit an important one but still. But, all I ever hear is how caring and kind she's supposed to be and am I the only one that just sees her as angry all the time? To me even badk when she was "in wuv" with House, she seemed mad at him more often than not, which is partly what led me to believe that it would never work between them. I was like, "Cameron, he's constantly making you mad, why do you want to be with him?"

A lot of dislike for Cameron I think comes from our distaste for seeing a supposedly professional woman behave like a complete idiot. - saara_zaara Word. I like that she's supposed to be interested in developing professionally, but the way she acts! when fans claim that she is OOC they are projecting their own impressions about the character. - Lully Yep. This bothered me a lot about (some of) Chase's fans: they persist in saying that his hatred of fat people is OOC, although it's been firmly established in not one but TWO episodes, just because they don't like that character trait. The sexcapades were bizarre, but from as far back as 'Sex Kills' we know that Cameron is open to sexual adventure. Maybe this is just another character trait of Cameron's, that she enjoys semi-public sex. how about a "Cameron's finest moment" fest? - sweet fern When she stood up for her TB diagnosis in 'TB Or Not TB', and when she got Cuddy to tell House the truth about Richard's diagnosis in 'Cane Or Able'. My interpretation of Cameron is that she's very immature emotionally, with a child's self-centeredness and black-and-white view of the world. JM has said that she and the writers chose to have Cameron very naive. Notice how she repeatedly interprets "nice" as "good" (well, so does Wilson) and judges who deserves medical treatment based on how "good" they are. Despite the hardships she's endured she just never grew up. To me a perfect example of Cameron's immaturity was the sexcapades. Clearly she was supposed to come off as mature and sexy, but to me she just looked like a 14-year-old girl acting like a mature sexy woman. Or maybe that was JM's fault, because she could never deliver the so-called sexual tension with HL either. It's my fanwank that she grew up in a family where she was a spoiled princess (a "circle queen") and the romantic/sexual immaturity from marrying young. She has a high opinion of herself and thinks she's always right. She's trying to grow, but has the worst possible role model in House. We saw that in S3 where she "grew a spine" and started acting like him with the snarky comments. Even the FWB I think she was doing because she thinks that's how a sophisticated woman acts. One thing I liked about the character was that especially in S2 she resisted House's attempts to make her cynical and jaded like him. That showed strength on her part and it was original. S3 showed that House wore her down in that respect, which is a pity. I also liked that in S3 she tried and apparently has succeeded in overcoming her crush on House; I think she still has feelings for him, a person can't help their feelings, but she doesn't fantasize about being with him. all I ever hear is how caring and kind she's supposed to be and am I the only one that just sees her as angry all the time? Yeah, I laughed in 'Euphoria' when Cameron said "Do I seem giddy to you?" and House answered "Never!". It's not just us, she's supposed to be humourless - later I read an interview with JM where she mentioned how different she is from Cameron in this respect, that Cameron never smiles or laughs. So it is on purpose.

My response, to all those complaints "elsewhere" that Cameron does something people consider "out of character" is to remind them what we're told about her back in pilot. House out-and-out says that she is not who she appears to be. She's not the sweet, naive, pretty smart girl. There's something else. That's what intrigues him. That's why he hired her. So why should we be surprised when she does something unexpected? Heck, for all we know of her past, she was a wild child until she met PDH, and she's been trying to reform ever since.

I think it is revealing that when we do see Cameron "with her hair down" she is pretty wild. We haven't seen it often but when we have it's been meth sex and sleeplab sex and patient's bed sex....

We haven't seen it often but when we have it's been meth sex and sleeplab sex and patient's bed sex.... And questions to a patient's wife about threesomes and the jello shot joke and...she really does talk about sex a lot, in a way that Chase & Foreman typically don't. House out-and-out says that she is not who she appears to be. She's not the sweet, naive, pretty smart girl. There's something else. That's what intrigues him. That's why he hired her. So why should we be surprised when she does something unexpected? No we shouldn't & in fact isn't it the pilot that has that wildly debated statement about her not getting a criminal record til she was seventeen - IMO that wasn't a joke, there was likely some truth to it.

What she said was "I made it to 17 without a criminal record", in response to Foreman justifying his criminal actions because he was 16. In other words "You can't say that it's OK to break the law when you're 16, because I didn't". It doesn't rule out her having a criminal record, but it's certainly not proof that she did. Come on, Tritter dug up her calculus grades. You think he wouldn't have found a criminal record? Especially when he went on about how she was a person who always did the right thing?

Come on, Tritter dug up her calculus grades. You think he wouldn't have found a criminal record? Especially when he went on about how she was a person who always did the right thing? Good point about Tritter, but related to that what's the age cut off for juvenile records being sealed? Would he have had access?

Would he have had access? I'm sure he did, he was apparently omnipitent. :x No, I'm not angry at all, why?

Like so many others, I had a really hard time liking anything about Cameron after the date fiasco in which her extreme self-centeredness came to the fore. Her "you couldn't love me" moment in "Honeymoon" sealed the deal for me against that character. I did like Cameron in several of the scenes with Dr. TB in which her eagerness and sincerity played appropriately as did her gumption in standing up to House and insisting on testing for tuberculosis in order to eliminate it as a diagnosis. My completely unsubstantiated wank on the course of the three seasons is that as originally conceived Cameron was to have been a love interest for House, albeit a damaged and twisted one. I think that the total lack of chemistry between HL and JMo derailed this idea over the course of the first season. The fact that HL repeatedly stated that the idea of a cross-generational romance for House and Cameron was unpalatable reflected this shifting direction, IMO. Also, the strong, unforced, and unanticipated chemistry between HL and Lisa Edelstein from the pilot episode onward served to further undermine the planned House/Cam storyline. When Wilson stated that House must surely feel something for Cuddy and House snaps back that there is a huge wall between love and hate, the game is on. So in my scenario, by the beginning of season 2 TPTB faced a dilemma: what to do with Cam. The Chase/Cam meth!sex and the quite effective House pursuit of Stacy (both developed wonderfully in "Hunting") served the goal of untangling House from Cam. It was clear to me as soon as we were told that House knew Cam had slept with Chase, House would never pursue a relationship with Cam in canon. Given his character, it is inconceivable to me that House would under any circumstances accept Chase's sloppy seconds. I think that among other things season 3 represented the cleaning up of the end of the House/Cam story. Others may doubt her, but I found completely believable her direct denials to Tritter in "Finding Judas" and then Wilson in "Resignation" that she had any residual feelings for House. I do think she is finally over him. The conclusion of "Human Error" with Cameron's return to Chase of her own free will represented a new direction for her and underscored the changes the show will explore in season 4.

My interpretation of Cameron is that she's very immature emotionally, with a child's self-centeredness and black-and-white view of the world. I think you are dead on the money, and would like to add that she's also emotionally childish in the way that she "puts on" different personalities to impress the "cool kids" (i.e. House). If she thinks that being aloof or manipulative will impress House, she's aloof and manipulative. If Foreman's insulting Chase, she jumps in, etc. It's hard to tell who she really is, because for all we know she adopted the care bear personality from somebody else thinking that it would make her "good" or likeable. My completely unsubstantiated wank on the course of the three seasons is that as originally conceived Cameron was to have been a love interest for House, albeit a damaged and twisted one. I think that the total lack of chemistry between HL and JMo derailed this idea over the course of the first season. I got the same impression. It has always seemed to me that DS and company were always trying to shove down out throats how beautiful JMo is (she is) and what great chemistry she has with HL (she doesn't). Good chemistry between the actors is going to show up on the screen- if you have to keep telling us how great they are together then something's probably not quite working as planned.

Have you guys not read the twop Cameron thread? Cameron is perfect! Haven't you been reading the posts that have been saying the EXACT SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, attempting to wear everyone down so we all believe Cameron is perfect and every other character is WRONG and she is the perfect role model??? Sorry, just had to vent.

Sorry, just had to vent. We all need to vent sometimes. If she thinks that being aloof or manipulative will impress House, she's aloof and manipulative. If Foreman's insulting Chase, she jumps in, etc. I agree. I've heard her receive praise for staying strong and not giving in to the pressure around her and for sticking to her guns (which she is capable of doing) but so much of what she does is because she's trying to impress House, that it's just annoying and impossible for me to respect her. I think that the total lack of chemistry between HL and JMo derailed this idea over the course of the first season. To be fair, chemistry between actors is all subjective, there are fans who swear up and down that HL and JMo have this incredible chemistry that just leaps off the screen. Personally, I'd say that he has the least chemistry with her, in fact I think everyone, except JS, has the least chemistry with her. Maybe that's part of what makes her so unlikable to me.

'Sokay, brittania. I gave up when the "Chase should have done the honorable thing" argument came up - never mind I watched Family this week & Chase's blithely gone back to work & is spotting the possible heart infection & stopped talking about the whole situation & Cameron's twittering on about the reminders like a dog who won't give up a bone. I might go back & post that priceless piece of dialog, but somehow I doubt it. Its a lost cause. Who wants to talk about why DS appaarently decided to give Cameron a close to non-existant sense of humor??

My completely unsubstantiated wank on the course of the three seasons is that as originally conceived Cameron was to have been a love interest for House, albeit a damaged and twisted one. What I found so hard to believe about this idea (not your idea, but the idea of Cameron as a love interest since the beggining of the show) is the fact that they chose such a weak actress to play that kind of role. They spent a lot of time looking for the perfect actor to play House - and they succeeded. They chose another great actor to play the best friend. A very good actress to play his boss, two good actors to play his others subordinates. And the love interest would be the less talented? This was the kind of role that would have the potential to become as central as House is. And JMo was their best bet? I can not believe it and it doesn't make any sense, sorry! Producers telling the public how amazing the chemestry between actors of their show is, isn't new. They would say anything to attract audience. But actually someone had ever said, plain and simple, that she was there to be the love interest? Except of course the House/Cam fans?