'A stuffed animal made by Grandma'. Heeee.

'A stuffed animal made by Grandma'. Definitely "Heeee." and better than what I was about to suggest - "A decorative piece of art in the lobby" :ducks:

heh, this looks more and more like a Cameron hate thread. I feel right at home in those *g* I don't even think I can come up with something nice to say about her, even her haircut last season sucked.

Okay, lets play nice. I kinda liked her hair most of s2 ;D I also kinda liked her prior to the quiting & the date thing. I could deal with her through most of s2 even if I wasn't fond of her (I thought she was a complete idiot in Hunting). But something happened at the start of s3 - the character, the performance, something just started to grate. Anyone any theories as to what or why (other than DS lost his mind)?

I firmly believe my main problem with Cameron lies somewhere between crappy/sloppy writing and JM not being the best actress in the world(my opinion). I have to agree Saara, her hair looked nice in season 2. See I can say nice things about Cameron, don't expect it to happen again this year though.

heh, this looks more and more like a Cameron hate thread. I feel right at home in those I can't think of a reason why there would be any other kind. Honestly, I've tried but I can't think of a single good thing to say about her. I think I've liked her a total of two times over the course of the whole show. The last scene with Wilson in Spin (one of my favorite scenes ever) and when she apologized to Chase in Act Your Age. Other than that? Nothing. even her haircut last season sucked. I know! I saw those horrible bangs that made her look like an awkward teenage boy and thought "well so much for the days where I could say, 'yeah she sucks but at least she has great hair.'" While I never liked her I have to say she has gotten worse during S3.

I always end up saying this in some form or another, but LMC, get out of my head! Those two scenes were pretty much the only times I liked her as well. And honestly, RSL made that last scene in Spin - he could have been talking to a mop and it would probably still be incredible. Wilson and Cameron do have a strangely enjoyable relationship though, so that scene has become one of my absolute favourite scenes. This really shouldn't turn into a Cameron hate thread - don't want to alienate the Cameron fans (if any have in fact signed up here), but the hate-talk is technically discussion about her character. If things get too nasty though, I might have to stop you... Still, right now we're fine. Discuss away.

I never liked Cameron, but I didn't hate her either - I was indifferent to her. But after the crush and the date she became smug and then bitter. Every scene between her and House was painful for me to watch. Now every time she is on screen she annoys me. I hate her! Was I really suppose to like her, plain and simple? Or I was suppose to see her flaws and symphatize with her? One way or other, it didn't work. I guess it was a combination: bad characterization, bad acting and bad writting. Or maybe she is hateful. She is the way she is because she really is that annoying little b*tch. The only one that don't know that yet is DS.

Was I really suppose to like her, plain and simple? Or I was suppose to see her flaws and symphatize with her? One way or other, it didn't work. I guess it was a combination: bad characterization, bad acting and bad writting. That's what I don't get. I feel like I'm supposed to like her. I feel like I'm supposed to be on her side and feel for her but I just can't. I think most of it is the writing but some of it is that JM always looks so angry and annoyed when she's on screen. She seems like she has nothing but contempt for anyone. But I guess they must be doing something right, seeing as how she does have a lot of fans (evidently not here) but in other places, maybe I'm just missing something. I do try though, I really don't like hating her but she leaves me no choice. ::pouts:: Wilson and Cameron do have a strangely enjoyable relationship though, so that scene has become one of my absolute favourite scenes. I agree for the most part I do enjoy their relationship.

The only one that don't know that yet is DS. You know, I think he does. IMO, really just MO, he's having fun with this idea that because Cameron is pretty she gets away with a lot - that maybe initially she was unaware of being borderline bad, but since she did she started to develop some really bad habits & now its part of her persona (& seeing House do things that seem similar superficially doesn't help). And the voice of reason on that was the "she's not as delightful as she thinks she is" comment from Cuddy. Similarly, I think DS & the writers knew exactly what they were doing in H-W - she really doesn't know House as well as she thinks, she seriously misjudges the information she finds by snooping & she's not smart enough to realize what a hair-brained idea the needlestick is. I've seen a lot about how OOC Cameron was in s3, but IMO you can trace every daft thing she does to a similar, but less damaging or out-there event in s1 or s2. Methsex becomes FWB; manipulating Anika becomes drugging George; blackmailing House into a date becomes the needlestick kiss; going through his professional mail unasked develops into riffling through his personal mail. A lot of dislike for Cameron I think comes from our distaste for seeing a supposedly professional woman behave like a complete idiot. And DS's original position is right, straight from the Pilot, she really is damaged. There's doubt on this in s1, but s3 confirms DS's position. The problem is that they've pushed the character is such a negative direction do any of us really care why she's like that, even assuming DH is going to show us this. And yes, JMo's angry performance emphasized the situation in S3, but again, i have to believe that thats what the writers & directors were looking for because its so consistent across all the s3 episodes.

Saara, I hope, really hope, that you're right. That that line from Cuddy was a clue to Cameron's real personality. If she is a damage person I can, at least, return to my indifference. And I agree, the Cameron from season 3 wasn't OCC, she was the same one from season 1 and 2, just with more obvious flaws.

And I agree, the Cameron from season 3 wasn't OCC, she was the same one from season 1 and 2, just with more obvious flaws. I agree with this as well. I've maintained that she has not been OOC this season it's just that what we've seen of her personality in little hints in the first two seasons became more prominant this season. I don't get why some people are crying "OOC!" for her this year.

I';m impressed that people can even call OOC for the character on the screen. Unless someone goes so completely opposite without some damn good explanation, for example a white supremist character all of a sudden works for the NAACP, then nothing the characters do is OOC. IMHO YMMV

That's a great point, TC. A character's actions might be unusual or extreme, but using the term OOC really bothers me. TPTB clearly think it isn't or it wouldn't be on the screen (& that's also what really bothers me about the interview I've seen referenced in a couple of places that JMo said she thought Cameron was OOC this season. that sounds more like she's not communicating well with TPTB or there's something they want that she doesn't like personally about where the character is going).

Unless someone goes so completely opposite without some damn good explanation, for example a white supremist character all of a sudden works for the NAACP Actually TC, not even this I'd call OOC, maybe I'd say it was bad characterization, if there was no explanation - good or bad - for the new behavior. I think that saying a character is OOC is easier than try to analyse and find out who the character was since the beggining. And to be fair it's something that fans of other characters do to.