I Love You: House/Wilson

:D Jouse, welcome back *hugs* I missed you! Idon I love your whole post, but specially: We're learning how House and Wilson's personal relationship impacts their work relationship. House and Wilson can't let go of each other for some reason and I think the writers are peeling back the onion so we can understand why. I've been noticing, more and more, that their interactions are now almost exclusively about their personal problems. The patient is never the main reason why they seek out each other. There's a division: the medical mystery (with House, the newbies and Cuddy) and the House/Wilson personal affairs. I don't know what to expect from this, I just hope to see some resolution until the end of the season. About Wilson and the infarction: the thing is, we don't know where Wilson was during that event. Three Stories didn't explain or prove that he was out of the town or at House's side. Personally I think he was there - the line in Family about Wilson being a coward was too personal to be just about the PotW (IMO) - and couldn't stop Stacy, either because he agreed with her decision or because he didn't have any power to prevent her actions. I don't think House blames him for that (and that's the reason he wasn't in the flash-back) but Wilson can't forgive himself. Actually, for me this explains a lot about Wilson's behaviour regarding House. But YMMV, of course!

Does someone know when will be the next 10th epi. Because I was watched some spoiler for epi from the next year. Tell me That doesn't meant that this is 10th episode? The next episode(4.10) is late January.

About Wilson and the infarction: the thing is, we don't know where Wilson was during that event. Three Stories didn't explain or prove that he was out of the town or at House's side. Personally I think he was there Ooh Lully our fanons diverge... I believe he was out of town (but this belongs in the personal canon thread). I agree however that Three Stories does leave it open to other possibilities. I also agree that Wilson carries guilt around to this day about the infarction; but I think the guilt stems from being absent. Not there for House in his darkest hour. After all, if Wilson can feel guilty enough about telling a patient he's going to live to pay 6 grand for it, he can feel guilty enough about not being there for House to pay... well, quite a lot of money and endless emotional support.

Shipper wrote: Ooh Lully our fanons diverge... :( And this makes me sad... But actually it's not a closed question, right? I only disagree about being canon that he wasn't there, I think it's open to both possibilities. But we are in agreement about the guilt :wink:

What if it was the one time that Wilson put the needs of his (then) wife above House's... and he regrets it to this day? This would also explain why he's done everything in his power not to make the same mistake again. Even at the cost of his marriages.

What if it was the one time that Wilson put the needs of his (then) wife above House's... and he regrets it to this day? That's very interesting. This is why I love you guys, you always show me a new way to look at something.

That's very interesting. This is why I love you guys, you always show me a new way to look at something. :D But, that begs the question... what could Wilson's wife have possibly have needed him for that would take priority over House's infarction? The only thing I can think of is if she had a miscarriage. Or a death/injury/illness within her family. Which Wilson couldn't really be blamed for - and yet he would find a way to feel guilty about it. I think I just created some new personal canon, here. ;)

what could Wilson's wife have possibly have needed him for that would take priority over House's infarction? My personal canon is that they were on Honeymoon and unreachable but that's me.

I feel so lonely in my personal canon... :( If someday they will tell us Wilson wasn't really there during the infarction, a Conference would work better for me than a Honeymoon - basically because, like Shipper, I don't believe Wilson was married at the time.

I personally believe that Wilson wasn't there. Whether he was gone for a conference, honeymoon, wife's sister's third wedding in Vegas or a protracted bout of the stomach flu is irrelevant to me. He wasn't there. I think that Wilson knows House well enough to know how he would have felt about the middle ground. House made his feelings very well known at the time. And, as we saw in the pilot, he was perfectly willing to let the patient die rather than perform more tests because that was "Rachel's" choice. It was House's choice to remove the clot, sleep out the pain, and live or die from the resultant flood of toxins. With an intact leg. House would have accepted the same decision made by a patient, and Wilson would have respected House's decision in this regard. True, he didn't have medical proxy, but I think if he had been there and voiced his opinion to Stacy, and Stacy went ahead anyway, Wilson wouldn't have been so friendly with Stacy after that. Remember that they kept in touch and occasionally got together for dinner. I maintain that Wilson was not available to offer an opinion.

Thanks Shipper and Lully! :kiss: I just watched Act your age and House training. I'm thinking of starting a 'Let Wilson out of the closet' petition on facebook.

I don't think it was a wife issue that kept Wilson away during the infarction (whether honeymoon, miscarriage or any other problem - interesting though all those possibilities are) - because *steels self to explain personal canon timeline* I don't think Wilson was married at the time. Infarction = 5 years before s1. Too late for wife #1, surely: very late for Bonnie if you accept the Hector @ 17 thing as canon. Possible for Julie, but I don't think Wilson is likely to have married Julie more than a year or two before s1 ('sprinting through three bad marriages'). Just my two cents, of course.I'll through my two cents in w/ you hwshipper. Before the Bonnie/Hector timeline when I thought the marrages all took place in a much shorter period of time and with no other backstory I thought perhaps Wilson had been away w/ his wife at infarction time and then #2 dissolved a little after Stacy left when Wilson started to pick up the pieces and that Julie came along a year after that. (But it wouldn't have mattered because Wilson already forsook wife #1 for House so it would just be a convenient way of him being away at the time). But with B/W taking place much earlier and Bonnie never mentioning the infarction, House's recovery and Stacy leaving as part of the reason that House "always needed James and he was always there for you." I think the infarction took place after Bonnie left and before Julie arrived. So Wilson prefers being with House ahead of staying in what have been a series of Ill-conceived marriages. (Which is the, "my marriages were so crappy I spent all my time with you." view) The infarction playing no part. Like RNWannabe it doesn't matter to me where Wilson was (when they tell me I'll know) as of now there is no evidence that he was there during the infarction. What he would have done if he was is spec. I think Wilson would understand that Stacy would allow anything to be sure House stayed alive, even if it meant going against his wishes and his being crippled, versus his being dead. Hoping that House would eventually see the greater good. I think Wilson would have had similar feelings, better to have him with me in any condition then lose him for good. Its selfish but its human. Still I think if the descision had been Wilson's (which it wasn't so they could also have removed him from the picture just to keep it clear that this was something between House and Stacy, with a little input from Cuddy) he would have ultimately gone along with what House wanted, first becasue he would put his faith in House's diagnosis and second because for the most part Wilson does go along with what House decides for himself even when Wilson vehmently disagrees and tries to persude him to do otherwise. The responsibilty (and I prefer that word to guilt) that Wilson feels now I think goes way back even before the infarction it just became greater after that with the addition of pain, pills and recklessness. A lot of who House is he has been for a long time, anti-social, bad at office politics, ignoring rules and going his own way and Wilson seems to have been right there with him, looking out for his interests, for the last 20 years. The "Games" fight for Wilson seems to be more about the most recent events in 97 Secs and YDWTK with echos of all of their previous conflicts for both of them. They certainly left it at a very combative point (Damn you Kutner). House's defiant ''No" to Wilson. For me it all portends that there are dark times ahead for these two and its going to get messy again sooner rather than later.

I personally believe that Wilson wasn't there. Whether he was gone for a conference, honeymoon, wife's sister's third wedding in Vegas or a protracted bout of the stomach flu is irrelevant to me. He wasn't there. I always assumed he was at a conference (on the West coast maybe?), and was unreachable. Whether he was married or not, I always found inconsequential. I certainly think that the "infarction era" is a point of contention between the two, even though intellectually House understands for whatever reason that Wilson couldn't be there. Wilson feels guilty that he wasn't there when House actually, really needed him. Which is probably why it was so hard for him to leave him on MLC, but he knew he had to, for his own self-preservation. He lived House, but he also needs to care for his own well being, and supressing these feelings, either about the infarction, Tritter, MLC, and whether or not he loves *loves* House has led him down the anti-depressant route. It is personal to Wilson, and he obviously has a hard time expressing these feelings to anyone, especially House.

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