Yes I thought of that too. In Distractions Wilson seems to know a lot about him being kicked out of Johns Hopkins so it's possible. I didn't get the impression Chase knew about the patient before House told the 3 ducklings. Also, was Esther actually one of his patient's at PPTH? I thought House had only been there for 8 years in S1.

I don't think we ever find out where House was working when Esther was his patient. Hmm...I think I need to watch the episode again.

Funny I was looking at that the other day re. something else and noted the time mention. I don't think I realized it on first view or just thought it was something Wilson had heard about. Chase says he has seen the file before from a case he worked on w/ House a month before Cameron arrived. He also says that he was told then by a guy who worked there before him that House tried to cure Esther (he uses her name) 3 other times before that so it sounds as if those were all at PPTH. Cuddy also knows about her and calls her by name and says it was 12 years ago but that could be from the later cases that House handled. We don't have any indication where House was when he treated Esther. If you accept the Bonnie timeline (which I do) Wilson would have been around when the actual Esther died as it would be well within the 17 plus years that House and he know each other. So now for me it is the earliest indication that House and Wilson go back farther then many of us use to think. But its very much YMMV.

Thanks Filex. Your take suggests that Chase heard about it and Wilson knew about it. I also accept the Hector H/W timeline. The Esther timemarker suggest that House and Wilson knew each other before the brother disappeared. That's why I still believe that the CIA guy is Wilson's brother. I know that's a strange connection to make but House did say to CIA guy something about lying to your friends and family.

Taiga wrote: I was just surprised that nobody was making giver/taker jokes about House and Wilson. And RNwannabe wrote: Were TPTB confirming that House bottoms? All that Wilson-on-bottom fic. Shot to shit! And here I'm thinking that the metaphor actually confirms Wilson-on-bottom idea... Since he is the giver... Or maybe I failed to understand the metaphor in English... :?

Something else not specific, but another indication Wilson knows a lot about House's medical career: I was watching USA's rerun of "Informed Consent," and at one point Wilson confronts House re: Ezra's request to die. Wilson says that House has never had a problem with doctor assisted suicide, and that, "You’ve done it before. Plenty of times." To which House says only with patients he knew were terminal. So that at least predates the show's timeline, as we've not seen House in that situation for any patient on the show prior to Ezra. Wilson's wording definitely implies that he was around for those occasions. Not a big deal but coupled with Esther it implies Wilson has been House's sounding board for quite awhile. I mean, I assume that those "plenty of times" were pretty spaced out over years, otherwise House would be in prison for being a suspected Kevorkian.

Sorry, I never supoosed about that. I'll be carefull for the future.

Hello! H/W subtext is possibly back from exile and with it, so am I :twisted: I can't believe they've addressed Wilson's guilt about the infarction. I thought TPTB forgot the first 3 seasons ever happened. But it all may very well be rebuilding the "h/w friendship" component in the show after establishing House as super-hetero. Bah.

I loved the House/Wilson scenes in Games. Their relationship has changede as RSL indicated it would last season. Before Tritter, there was a lot of stuff bubbling underneath. The Tritter arc brought it to the surface. And really they're in a relationship. When Wilson accused House wanting to control everything - I thought couple speak. When House I'm trying to teach you that people always do what's best for them, I thought of Wilson's description of House in Who's Your Daddy "my protector, my champion" When Wilson told House to stop playing games, I thought of the H/W + ducklings lab scene in All In. Then add to that Kutner walking in on them and knocking on the glass door to let them know he was there was just all kinds of awesome. And what do couples do? Well they're fighting and a third party enters the room, they have this sort of body language that says this is private, personal, intimate - don't ask because this is between me and him. And Kutner got that this is not just about friendship. In the earlier scenes between House and Wilson, we get that House knows no boundaries when it comes to Wilson. And Wilson sometimes halfheartedly pushes him away. Recall his reaction in Ugly when House threw the doc crew out of his office in Ugly. We're learning how House and Wilson's personal relationship impacts their work relationship. House and Wilson can't let go of each other for some reason and I think the writers are peeling back the onion so we can understand why. I'm lovin it. I can't wait until they move back in together :)

GG, I was merely referring to the fact that they talk to each other, about each other. IMO, that tensity we saw on the mutual shouting scene has much more potential to uncover some cagy feelings, as opposed to their platitudinous conversations since the ILU. It's not much, but after the last 5 eppies, it's something. About the infarction - of course Wilson wasn't there, and that's partly what I thought he'd be feeling guitly about. In a broader sence, I think House talked about his disability, drug use and (former?) misery that Wilson is helpless about, yet still struggling to control.

We're learning how House and Wilson's personal relationship impacts their work relationship. House and Wilson can't let go of each other for some reason and I think the writers are peeling back the onion so we can understand why. I'm lovin it. I can't wait until they move back in together Word to this and your whole post. I have been loving their interactions this season, to me it's been showing now more than ever just how tangled up they are in each other's lives and how they cannot let each other go. It's in the ILU, it's in the "I'm in charge of our relationship", it's in House throwing out the doc crew, it's in the blood types, and now it's in this last scene in Games. As much fun as they've been having (and I've been having) I'm glad we're getting to the meat again. I said a while ago that what I did like about their relationship in S3 is that to me it showed that they love and need each other, as opposed to earlier (mostly S1) when they just seemed more like buddies who liked being around each other (not always but more often than not.) And after last night, I think we're getting a good amount of the lighthearted "you're my bff and we have fun" and the "I love you. You're the most important person in my life." YMMV. About the infarction - of course Wilson wasn't there, and that's partly what I thought he'd be feeling guitly about. In a broader sence, I think House talked about his disability, drug use and (former?) misery that Wilson is helpless about, yet still struggling to control. I agree. I think some of Wilson's guilt is based around the infarction on top of everything else. Was the infarction his fault? Of course not, I think that he knows that. House clearly knows that but I don't think it stops Wilson from feeling guilty. When someone you love is suffering, it's natural to think, "I should have done something," even if, realistically, there was nothing you could have done.

If we are heading for a new crisis regarding House (whether health or existential) then I am glad that they are exploring the darker aspects of their relationship now, before the sh*th hits the fan. I'd love for them to be in a more balanced/healthy place before whatever happens. And that means dealing with Wilson´s guilt (real or perceived), Wilson's housing situation and his MO when it comes to House.

Jouse, you're back! *waves excitedly* Then add to that Kutner walking in on them and knocking on the glass door to let them know he was there was just all kinds of awesome. And what do couples do? Well they're fighting and a third party enters the room, they have this sort of body language that says this is private, personal, intimate - don't ask because this is between me and him. And Kutner got that this is not just about friendship. I absolutely thought this during that scene too! I thought the H/W interaction was great in this ep. Right from the first scene when House sticks his head round Wilson's door only to find Wilson sitting behind it. *utterly shallow end*And Wilson seemed to spend a lot of time with his shirtsleeves rolled up. Or indeed in the process of rolling them up. Moar please.