Sans your making me LOL all over :lol: Oh god, House and Wilson laying in bed, post shag, House lighting up, the smoke curls up around the room. Wilson giving him a dirty look, but instead of lecturing and/or complaining, he takes a drag. Pure love. My eyes are all fogged up again.

You know, what if they never showed the first move? Just kind of had this H/W scene that started off completely normal and then all of a sudden there's a kiss but it's nothing new, H&W act like it's the most normal thing in the world. In 'That 70s Show' (don't mock, it was funny in the beginning) there was this couple with a huge fanbase, not really a will they/won't they thing but close. The finale of the 4th season, they're not together and she's pining after some other guy. The premiere of the fifth season, the rest of the gang leaves the couple alone and they start to make out! Turns out they've been going at it the entire summer. A couple of episodes later the writers ruined it by showing how they got together, but I loved it. Wouldn't something like that be great? We're obviously not shown everything, so why not this? It would be such a huge and delightful shock (the Fox announcer would be pleased) and it leaves the actual event open to fanfiction writers instead of professional writers who might screw things up ;) I think I just like the image of House getting ready in the morning in his apartment, talking to Wilson offscreen, then we see Wilson in the kitchen and OMG! he's not entirely dressed yet either! And OMG!!! House just walked into the kitchen and they kissed and then they carried on their conversation like it was no big deal while it freaking IS! ...If that makes any sense.

Oh Jackie/Hyde. Serious OTP right there. Anyway, that would just be insanely awesome. Beginning of S5, anyone? Then maybe they can get outed to everyone episode 5...

I see what you both mean and I agree, but---but-- :cry: nooooo!!! The first kiss, the doubts, the talks with Cuddy and Stacey and the ducklings, the whole first time, newness experience - I WANT THAT!!! I want to see House's shocked face when Wilson kisses him, and Wilson's equally shocked expression when he realises what he'd done. You both make excellent arguments, but I'll feel crazily deprived :(

Honestly I don't care how it will (because it WILL) happen. Wilson can make the first move, House can surprise Wilson with a sudden kiss, we can find out that they're together since before season one. Whatever they choose to show I'll be happy - I just want then together at the end! I know, I sound like a broken record...

Oh it definitely will happen. It's so weird, this is the only show that really delivers on HoYay so in the end it's the only one that can potentially let us down. You don't have to want to see it, it's just there whereas with most slash, you do have to be open to it. Anyway, it means that while I was disappointed but not surprised that all my other slash-OTPs didn't wind up together, it also means that if by the end of this series, House and Wilson aren't together...Heads will roll, I swear. Jouse, I do understand that wish. I think they can still work in some of that. For one thing, it's not because they're together and they're used to it, that everyone else knows let alone is used to it. So you could still have those shocked looks and talks with Cuddy. Flashbacks may not be this show's style, but they could tell how it went...I think that might reveal quite a lot about how they feel about each other. God, I can see it already. House sitting in Cuddy's office, fiddling with his cane, staring straight ahead, voice a bit deeper and hesitant (like ODOR?)...HL would act the pants off of everyone. Somehow I think Wilson would talk to Chase, yeah, I like to think they've become friends after MLC. He'd be more smiling and shy. And why do I see that conversation taking place in the men's room? As to how long the relationship would have been going on, I prefer if it weren't too long or on and off. I really do want it to be something new. Not just because then we'd get in on all that 'new relationship' stuff that's bound to happen, but also because I don't think Wilson and House would have been together when Wilson was married or House was with Stacy. Both H&W aren't exactly the faithful type but I think House is possessive enough to demand it of Wilson, and that Wilson's feelings for House mght be strong enough that he'd consider it cheating on House even if it were technically cheating on his wife.

People should know right now that I can't see House/Wilson happening on the show, ever. Eternal pessimism, you know?

As to how long the relationship would have been going on, I prefer if it weren't too long or on and off. Oh, I would also v much appreciate 'new relationship' stuff - hell of course ANYTHING in canon would be appreciated, I'm with 407 in that I can' actually see it happening :cry: It's just my own personal fanwank; I v much like the idea that House & Wilson got it together a long long time ago, and carry on regardless of the various wives, girlfriends, and Stacy, and it's precisely because their relationship is so strong & fundamental to the two of them, and long-lasting, that the women just don't threaten it. For the most part. </end fanwank> I think House is possessive enough to demand it of Wilson, and that Wilson's feelings for House mght be strong enough that he'd consider it cheating on House even if it were technically cheating on his wife. I find the question of H&W and fidelity v interesting. We know that Wilson's surprised what he can live with, and that House isn't always faithful to the women he dates :wink: I take these points as evidence for my fanwank <oops/end fanwank here instead>

I don't really care how it happens, as long as it happens before the end of the show.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I need House/Wilson to be canon, and moreover (and I know I sound like a huge wanker but) I also think society needs it, and would benefit from it. Baah, I've posted about it on the TWOP, I'll try to find it (though the HoYay thread there is a sad, sad place now). ETA- here's my basic take on the issue (which is very important to me): I love the subtext. It's my favorite art form. But I need House/Wilson to be canon. Moreover, if it wont I would see it as passive homophobia. I grief the fact that in prime time TV, canon het ships are legit and slash ships are strictly fandom based, unless it's the main characteristic of the show or the characters involved. At the risk of (spreading even more wildfire rumors-- noooo, RSL get out of my head) irritating some people here, I believe popular culture has a responsibly of pursuing the less predictable and more advanced and interesting scenarios. It freaks me out to see hetero couplings (and quite cliche ones at that) in every damn movie/show/book, when homosexual couples are scarcely represented, and when they are it's often formulated and stereotypical. And I expect more from shows I love, which have several wonderfully written and portrayed characters. House and Wilson are exceptionally interesting and believable characters, and I expect them to have exceptionally interesting and believable relationships. With each other :P

I'm sympathetic, Jouse, but a homosexual couple doesn't have to be brought into the show by turning canonically heterosexual characters gay. Maybe House will get a gay duckling and we'll see his or her relationship(s), or one of the main characters' brothers or sisters will be gay. I don't think that it will happen on the show either, I just want their friendship to be the most important relationship on the show and in each other's lives. But it's fun to think about it, so... For showing House and Wilson getting together, maybe we can get the Jackie/Hyde revelation that they've been together for a while and everyone finds out. Then they're each asked how it happened by different people, and they give different answers each time. So we see/hear multiple scenarios for how House and Wilson got together, but never find out what the real one is. Then we can choose which one we like best!

:shock: But House and Wilson are not heterosexual!