I Can't Even Think Straight: The Hoyay Thread

ITA filex. Wilson has such a bad track that I have no doubt he's afraid to fail in a romantic relationship with House. After all his friendship with House is (I still believe in it even after season 3) one of the two things that works for him. But at some point he'll need to make a decision. How long can someone live with so much repression?

I’ve been thinking that when Wilson talked to Cameron in Love Hurts and says, “I just want to make sure no one gets hurt.” and “You better be absolutely sure you want this because if he opens up again and gets hurt, I don’t think there’s going to be a next time.” That this was a prospect that has worried Wilson for a long time regarding himself and House. He doesn’t want to fail at this where House is concerned . . . I think you have something here. I have always interpreted the "you better be sure" . . . comment as an indication Wilson and House did have a relationship. I mean House loved Wilson before Stacy. House had known Wilson for ten years before he met Stacy. I think Wilson was referring to the hurt both he and Stacy caused. In this scenario, Wilson's admission to Cam "I didn't didn't want to let that feeling go" makes sense.

Yes, Wilson stepped somewhat away from House with at least two of the marriages (maybe all three, not sure which came first wife #1 or House). But despite that Wilson never did completely let that feeling go, maybe he has never been able to fully embrace it either. ITA But at some point he'll need to make a decision. How long can someone live with so much repression? WORD! Come on therapy do your stuff, Wilson needs to recognize.

Could part of the reason that Wilson hasn’t acknowledged House's overtures is because Wilson questions his own ability to have a successful relationship (to know what kind of relationship he even really wants)? I think that's part of it. When a relationship ends for Wilson (and House in one case) they still have each other. House allows Wilson to crash on his couch, Wilson picks up the pieces for House. If they got together and it didn't work out, what would they have? Who would they have? Both of them clearly don't want to lose each other and if repressing any romantic feelings Wilson may have for House is what keeps them together as they are now, I think he'll continue to do it, unless something really pushed him to go for/accept something more.

I always thought House was holding his feelings in check. I think Wilson is really clueless and/or just doesn't trust anybody. House pointed this out in Resignation.

I think Wilson has some trust issues, but who can blame him? unless something really pushed him to go for/accept something more. I wonder if the Tritter arc, that almost destroyed their friendship, could be a reason to Wilson accept the risk, since the friendship can be broken for some external force, as he knows now. ETA. Because the way I wrote the sentence before made it completely contradictory... :? English is a tricky language!

If they got together and it didn't work out, what would they have? Who would they have? Both of them clearly don't want to lose each other and if repressing any romantic feelings Wilson may have for House is what keeps them together as they are now, I think he'll continue to do it, unless something really pushed him to go for/accept something more. Yeah that fear comes up again in SoCG, but this time its House's fear of failure Wilson is talking about. Wilson: I associate with you through choice and any relationship that involves choice, you have to see how far you can push before it breaks...And one day, our friendship will break and it'll just prove your theory that relationships are conditional and you don't need human connection or deserve it or whatever goes on in that rat maze of your brain. I always thought House was holding his feelings in check. I think Wilson is really clueless I think they have both held in feelings where the other is concerned. Wilson's cluelessness may also be a bit of closetedness.

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Could part of the reason that Wilson hasn’t acknowledged House's overtures is because Wilson questions his own ability to have a successful relationship (to know what kind of relationship he even really wants)? I’ve been thinking that when Wilson talked to Cameron in Love Hurts and says, “I just want to make sure no one gets hurt.” and “You better be absolutely sure you want this because if he opens up again and gets hurt, I don’t think there’s going to be a next time.” That this was a prospect that has worried Wilson for a long time regarding himself and House. He doesn’t want to fail at this where House is concerned. I definitely agree here. There's too much subtext in canon for me to believe there aren't repressed feelings between these two, but I'll be very surprised if either one of them really does anything about them. Both of them (along with some of the other major characters) have failed in romantic relationships and it appears to me that, at this point, they have stopped pursuing them. I think their reasons have a lot to do with a fear of failure. It also probably has to do with the fact that they're both aware that they don't have anyone else in their lives. If they fail with each other and ruin their friendship, they wouldn't have anyone else. So, I guess I reiterated a lot of what others have said, but...oh well.

Yeah that fear comes up again in SoCG, but this time its House's fear of failure Wilson is talking about. Wilson: I associate with you through choice and any relationship that involves choice, you have to see how far you can push before it breaks...And one day, our friendship will break and it'll just prove your theory that relationships are conditional and you don't need human connection or deserve it or whatever goes on in that rat maze of your brain. I think Wilson now believes that House's love for him is conditional. The same could be said for Wilson's love for House. Wilson drew his line in the sand at his patients - not his job, car or money. When House told Wilson nothing had changed in Words & Deeds, I think that's when the friendship broke for Wilson. I think House is able to forgive and forget and move on but apparently that's not the case for Wilson. It sort of reminds me of a married couple. There's the honeymoon period and for some that goes on fo years. Then the couple settle into a pattern even if it's a dysfunctional pattern remains. Then some crisis occurs and the old pattern completely fails. If the couple doesn't deal with it, the relationship can become tinged with aggression and hostility - even though they still love each other. House is trying to re-establish the old pattern but Wilson is not having it. He's calling House on his shit and playing hard ball when House tries to manipulate him. I hadn't noticed this before but the only time that we see Wilson go to House's office is to set up the ransom note and to confront him about stealing his patient. I don't think we've seen Wilson go to House's office just to socialize.

I don't think we've seen Wilson go to House's office just to socialize. Well, he was originally just going to socialize with House in Insensitive if Cameron hadn't have stopped him and told him about CIPA girl. Cameron ruins everything. *pouts* But I think mostly you're right. I could be wrong or biased or whatever but it does seem that House is seeking Wilson out more than Wilson is seeking House out.

He went to House to 'ask advice' on how to handle the Cuddy thing at the end of AYA. He also got his 'speed' coffee from House in House's office. I think that's the last one I can remember, socializing I mean.

I don't think we've seen Wilson go to House's office just to socialize. Well, he was originally just going to socialize with House in Insensitive if Cameron hadn't have stopped him and told him about CIPA girl. Cameron ruins everything. *pouts* But I think mostly you're right. I could be wrong or biased or whatever but it does seem that House is seeking Wilson out more than Wilson is seeking House out. Sorry LMC, I meant for S4. Maybe we should make an S4 list of the number of times House or Wilson sought the other out. Alone - House 4 times - Wilson 2 TRS - House 5 times - Wilson - 0 97 secs - House 3 - Wilson - 1

I don't think we've seen Wilson go to House's office just to socialize. Well, he was originally just going to socialize with House in Insensitive if Cameron hadn't have stopped him and told him about CIPA girl. Cameron ruins everything. *pouts* But I think mostly you're right. I could be wrong or biased or whatever but it does seem that House is seeking Wilson out more than Wilson is seeking House out. Sorry LMC, I meant for S4. Maybe we should make an S4 list of the number of times House or Wilson sought the other out. Alone - House 4 times - Wilson 2 TRS - House 5 times - Wilson - 0 97 secs - House 3 - Wilson - 1 I'm rather comforted that House seeks Wilson out. It shows that he really does enjoy his company. Which makes me smile.

I'm rather comforted that House seeks Wilson out. It shows that he really does enjoy his company. Which makes me smile. ITA. I kind of like it this way. Alone - House 4 times - Wilson 2 TRS - House 5 times - Wilson - 0 97 secs - House 3 - Wilson - 1 Interesting. *Is slow* What is the one time Wilson sought out House in 97 seconds? In his hospital room? Can we really count that as "socializing?"

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