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DOB1234- 08-04-2009

A different sort of take on Gregory House: Pathology Precedes Potential: House, Dexter, & Battlestar Galactica House is David Shore’s upgrade of the Holmes myth. Now the character doesn’t even care about the human dramas of murder and blackmail. He only gets out of bed for the tangled fibers of diseased flesh, and even then only if it’s a chaotic conundrum. Wearing the limp of Legba — the voodoo god of hidden knowledge, himself then secretly connected to the Greek Hermes, god of medicine — House will even put himself into a coma to go down into the underworld and come back with a cure. Like Holmes, he’s a wounded shaman interested only in restoring order to an untidy planet. http://hplusmagazine.com/articles/art-entertainment/pathology-precedes-potential-house-dexter-battlestar-galactica

Namaste- 08-30-2009

Bringing this from the "Last Resort" thread, in which I'd mentioned that I was wondering if House's actions in giving the gun back were an early hint at his losing some of his rational abilities. If it was already House losing his grip on reality, then all the Huddy story after that (LTEC etc.) would also need to be seen in that light. The Itch, which came before, was an itch; after Last Resort was the desire for a real relationship. Well for that matter, the itch itself was caused by a possibly non-existent mosquito, which House made worse when he kept scratching at it and scratching at it. Another early hint none of us were paying attention to (but was clearly foreshadowing by the show runners)? And I don't want to get into yet another discussion on House/Cuddy romance, since there's another thread to discuss that. Just bringing up that earlier issue when House was clearly out of sorts dealing with his issues with Wilson, his Dad's death and Cuddy's baby issue. I don't doubt House's sincerity in reaching out to other people and desiring to get close to someone since I saw that as a pro-active movement on his part to become part of the world, rather than just a sarcastic observer. But his internal struggle has always been between that part of him that's cynical and misanthropic and miserable -- which is personified by Amber in the final episodes as a three dimensional aspect of him -- and the part of him that doesn't want to be lonely and in pain, as we saw in the discussion with another version of Amber in the bus in "Wilson's Heart." The latter version of House is the one who'd have fun planning Chase's bachelor party, the former is the part that would contrive to have a stripper with strawberry body cream there.

fadedflowerchild- 08-31-2009

Of course we don't yet know what triggered House's very uncharacteristic decision to consult a psychiatrist, as revealed in 'Locked in'. It could be that his misjudgement in handing back the gun (if that's what we accept it as) alarmed him sufficiently to make such a move. After all, on that occasion he took a risk with someone else's life as well as his own and that seems to me to be a significant change.

Ahreada- 10-04-2009
Adopted? (Sorry about the misplacement)
House knows his Dad isn't his biological father, but is he sure his Mom is his biological mother? What if instead of Mrs House having an affair like House assumed, they had adopted him and never told him.

Poeia- 10-04-2009

When House was 12 he informed John House that he wasn't Greg's biological father. John didn't speak to him for the rest of the summer, instead, he slipped typewritten notes under the door if he had to tell Greg anything. That's a pretty extreme reaction if he didn't know or believe House even though, among other things, House was saying that Blythe had cheated. If, however, Greg were adopted, John knew that they didn't have a biological connection and reacting like that to Greg's figuring it out would be truly insane.

filmlover- 10-05-2009

Yes, with John House's reaction to House's statement, I think that shows Greg wasn't adopted, and that John knew there was truth to what was said. I wonder if we will get more on House's bio dad. Will House ever tell his mother that he knows the truth? I wonder if Blythe wondered why John was giving young Greg the silent treatment. If so, I wonder what excuse John gave since I don't think he would tell his wife the truth of what Greg said. Why is the man so curious about so many things not interested in finding out more about his biological father?

Chiara- 10-05-2009

Why is the man so curious about so many things not interested in finding out more about his biological father? I can only think of two reasons why he would turn his curiosity off on this topic. The first is that John House was so terrible as a father that House, after he became certain that John was not his genitor, directed all the love and admiration he could not give his "dad" toward the almost mystical character that was his biological father. Perhaps House imagined that his real father was musically talented, intellectually curious, funny and independent minded and he does not want to experience the disappointment that would most certainly be associated with getting to know the man. The other explanation is diametrically opposed to what I just wrote. It is possible for House to already be disappointed in his biological father. According to what he said to Wilson at the funeral, his genitor is a "friend of the family". Meaning that House's natural father might have showed up every July 4th to grill some steaks and watch the fireworks with the man whose wife he had had an affair with. Talk about being a hypocrite ! On several occasions, House said that what one says does not matter, contrarily to what one does. Maybe he feels like he knows enough about what natural father did not to want to find out more.

filmlover- 10-05-2009

Chiara, those are 2 good reasons. I don't know which of those 2 reasons I would pick. I would love to see some exploration on this subject. Could he fear being disappointed if he got to know his real father? Another parental figure who falls short. Or could he be afraid of being rejected as a son? Is he afraid of another father being disappointed in him? He does think parental love is conditional.

Poeia- 10-05-2009

Bio-dad is an old family friend who was close enough to John and Blythe to come to John's funeral 50 years after the affair. My guess is that House knows just about every fact there is to know about him, down to his preferred brand of underwear. As to why he hasn't confronted the man about his parenthood or tried to establish some sort of relationship with him, both of Chiara's explanations could make sense.

filmlover- 10-18-2009

Do you think House's mom will find out or already knows that her son was in a mental institution for a few months?

angelcat2865- 10-21-2009

From the Curry Thread Do you think we are done with seeing anything of House's parental issues after the "talk" with his father? No, I would not think so, at least if they are going to try and be realistic about it. If they aren't done, how do you think it will manifest? House seems to have come to terms that not everything was bad with his father. So, will the next thing be to fully accept the bad things that happened(ice baths. sleeping in yard. seemingly lack of validation) and move on? Or by accepting that not everything was bad is in fact moving on from the bad that happened in his childhood? Or will the next issue have nothing to do with John House but have to do with his mother and/or bio dad? Even though House has remembered that not everything was bad about the time he spent with his father there is the still the issue of the abuse and the damage it caused. I think it is going to take a lot more than just remembering the good times for House to work past that. I don't think it is something you can just accept.

Greg House- 11-27-2009

But,are we sure that there has been physical abuse?I'm still convinced that he made it up in One Day,One Room to help the "patient"

filmlover- 12-06-2009

But,are we sure that there has been physical abuse?I'm still convinced that he made it up in One Day,One Room to help the "patient I think he was being honest in One Day, One Room. I guess it is a matter of personal opinion if you think forcing a kid to take ice baths or sleep in the yard to be physical abuse. House sees it as child abuse, but some people don't see it that way. I assume John didn't see it that way. Perhaps his mother didn't see it that way either, since it isn't striking a child. Granted, we don't know what other forms of punishment were used. We don't know if John beat House. Corporal punishment wasn't frowned upon back then, but we don't know if that happened to House. All that matters is how House viewed it, and he saw it as abuse.

fiction- 12-07-2009

What liquors does House drink? And in what episodes does he drink? I've looked for a list, but I can't find one.

Namaste- 12-08-2009

What liquors does House drink? And in what episodes does he drink? I've looked for a list, but I can't find one. We've seen him drinking a variety of liquors in a variety of episodes, but I don't know if there's a specific list. (It doesn't help that the labels are often masked or changed for legal reasons.) There was Jack Daniels in "Honeymoon," bourbon in "Frozen," rum in "Acceptance," Maker's Mark (I think) in "Merry Little Christmas" ...