The fact that they said she was in her late 20's means nothing if they were just looking at her. I'm almost in my mid 30's and I get carded all the time. Amber could very well be 32 or so and be mistaken for in her mid 20's. I don't think it is diagnostically relevant. If she were any younger, she wouldn't have had enough experience to be working for House, IMO. I think CCF were around a bit out of residency before coming to him, but don't quote me on that.
idonmatrix- 05-18-2008
The fact that they said she was in her late 20's means nothing if they were just looking at her. I'm almost in my mid 30's and I get carded all the time. Amber could very well be 32 or so and be mistaken for in her mid 20's. I don't think it is diagnostically relevant. If she were any younger, she wouldn't have had enough experience to be working for House, IMO. I think CCF were around a bit out of residency before coming to him, but don't quote me on that.
Hmm. Amber had a pole in her thigh, and a bloody face. Something tells me they probably did head, chest and long-bone series x-rays. Skeletal x-rays are used by pathologists to estimate age. But I'm just speculating since they didn't actually show or state she was x-rayed, it's possible it didn't happen. They probably just looked at her and decided she was in her late 20s. :roll:
Before House - Cameron was an immunologist, Foreman completed 2 fellowships, including one in neurology, and Chase was an intensivist. I think Amber is a radiologist but don't quote me on that :)
CB39DQ- 05-18-2008
Step away from the keyboard, CB. Put it down gently and nobody gets hurt. ;-)
Kidding.
This is getting to us, isn't it? We are a creative bunch, if nothing else.
Boffle, thank you for your concern, and the compliment.
House has not had sex with Cameron, he just wants to. Chase hasn't found out, he just thinks he has and he's jealous. Amber may or may not be pregnant, House has a reason to think she is. Blonde stands for family love in House's head, and that includes Chase.
JM and JS haven't really broken their engagement, or they never intended to marry in the first place. JM and JS are leaving the show because their roles aren't substantial enough, or the reverse. Season 5 has already started production with OW and KP, or not. LE doesn't really want House and Cuddy to have lots of sex. There are no plans for a spin off with LE, or there might be. HL really loves his own family, regardless of their hair color, or proximity to him.
You won't hear from me again on this topic. Either this is a wonderful, beautifully executed story, an unbelievable game, made by the writers and cast. Just to prove that point you won't believe me.
Or this speculation has driven me stark raving mad. I have in fact had only five hours sleep in the past 48 hours. When I came up with this solution I laughed out loud.
jonne- 05-18-2008
CB, your theorizing has been wildly entertaining, and I stress wildly.
While I agree that there's enough drama these episodes without throwing in more, I still love the fact that so many weird scenario's can still be fit in.
And forgive me for the 'daughter-theory', I posted that when I woke up at 1.30, probably stems from a nightmare. :D
Ironical to have this thread, and now no more spoilers have come out! TPTB really do know how to shut up when it matters!
DOB1234- 05-18-2008
We can thank TPTB for the fact that we have reason tomorrow to say "Thank God it's Monday!" Not many things in life can do that.
to21be- 05-18-2008
Man, if the ep doesn't air soon we are all going to start killing people, aren't we?
edited to delete the rest of this post, because I accidentally confused the spoiler thread with the restricted to promo spoiler thread... :blink:
Poeia- 05-18-2008
Also, people keep mentioning how Amber could go to a bar when she was working. Wilson said she was on call and assumed she didn't call back because she was working - you may not have to go into work while on call. But I don't see how being on call would prevent any doctor from going to a bar and having a drink - she's an adult woman and there's no reason why a glass of wine or something in the evening would impair her.
Hmm. That's an interesting rationale. I wonder how the hospital staff and patients would feel about a doctor coming in with alcohol on his/her breath. That would be a huge liability problem if something went wrong even if the doctor wasn't drunk. It called the appearance of impropriety. As it is, RL doctors pay huge insurance premiums. I don't think a $7 glass of wine would be worth it - that is in the real world. Of course it's sometimes difficult to compare what real people might do to fictional characters on a TV show, where the focus is on entertainment.
While I would never suggest using House's behavior as a blueprint for how others should behave, in Honeymoon he spent the night watching the movie of Mark's surgery while drinking. In The Mistake, Chase said he was hung over but House said he had seen Chase hung over and he hadn't been that day.
We don't know that Amber was drinking. The bar in the hypnosis scene was obviously stylized (unless House was really drinking Beer brand Beer). Maybe it's a restaurant and bar. Maybe Amber followed House in to talk to him and she had a club soda. But maybe she did have a drink. Unless she's a total lightweight like I am, one drink would not impair her. She would certainly be able to read radiology films even if she were called in.
Namaste- 05-18-2008
Maybe House and Amber were rather ... over the top and excessive ... in their conversation and the bartender didn't understand that excessive isn't out of the ordinary for them. He knew House had been drinking and assumed they both had been, and nabbed both sets of keys just to be safe.
idonmatrix- 05-18-2008
Also, people keep mentioning how Amber could go to a bar when she was working. Wilson said she was on call and assumed she didn't call back because she was working - you may not have to go into work while on call. But I don't see how being on call would prevent any doctor from going to a bar and having a drink - she's an adult woman and there's no reason why a glass of wine or something in the evening would impair her.
Hmm. That's an interesting rationale. I wonder how the hospital staff and patients would feel about a doctor coming in with alcohol on his/her breath. That would be a huge liability problem if something went wrong even if the doctor wasn't drunk. It called the appearance of impropriety. As it is, RL doctors pay huge insurance premiums. I don't think a $7 glass of wine would be worth it - that is in the real world. Of course it's sometimes difficult to compare what real people might do to fictional characters on a TV show, where the focus is on entertainment.
While I would never suggest using House's behavior as a blueprint for how others should behave, in Honeymoon he spent the night watching the movie of Mark's surgery while drinking. In The Mistake, Chase said he was hung over but House said he had seen Chase hung over and he hadn't been that day.
We don't know that Amber was drinking. The bar in the hypnosis scene was obviously stylized (unless House was really drinking Beer brand Beer). Maybe it's a restaurant and bar. Maybe Amber followed House in to talk to him and she had a club soda. But maybe she did have a drink. Unless she's a total lightweight like I am, one drink would not impair her. She would certainly be able to read radiology films even if she were called in.
Poeia, I was actually responding to someone else's post on that subject. I really don't have a theory about the bar scene. When I think about it, it makes my head hurt because for me there are just not enough pieces to figure out whether House was alone or with someone. House seems to think he was alone. Really, it hurts my head.
There's a promo link up for Wilson's H. and I loved it. House/Foreman/Wilson and Taub and Kutner in the background. The old Foreman is back and it's just love. But there was also this description of the episode that made me go huh!!:
in the two-part season finale, House's murky memories moments before the bus melee, may mar his manly friendship with Wilson..
I'm not going to offer any speculatiion on this one, I just want to see what everyone else thinks. And I am so glad Monday is less then 24 hours away.
This thread is only for speculation regarding the official promo, guys. PLEASE white-out any other spoilers.
- 407
Done :)
DrSpaceman- 05-18-2008
The idea that oral cop might lead to or from any other sex act does seem ridiculous. And the fact that House didn't tell Wilson that other acts were performed means they probably weren't. Everything on House is so literal which is probably why there's so much fan speculation.
House and Crandall's girlfriend may have slept together, however the difference between speculation and wild theorizing is that the former is rooted in canon. You can throw out the information specified on the show and assume something else, such as House and Crandall's girlfriend had intercourse (though he specified another sex act) and also that Amber is 28 (even though we've never been given her age) however that doesn't mean those are clues given by TPTB and not things you're making up via wild theorizing. You could just as easily argue that Cameron is House and Cuddy's love child based on that method.
Are you telling me that my speculation is not welcomed because I interpret what I see and hear on House differently from you?
Of course not, but there's a different in running with speculation of what we've seen on the show (whether House and Amber kissing is a hallucination or not, for example) vs. running with facts you've created which are either directly contradicted from the info we have been given or which we've never been given at all (for example, Amber's age).
BTW skeletal dating only gives approximate age once a person reaches adulthood. It's one of the last forms of identification attempted, usually by a coroner, not a regular hospital staff. They're going to take X-rays on her to look for broken bones and see where the pole hit in their bid to keep her alive, and leave the cops to do their job in identifying her. The crash may have happened only a day before. The hospital was probably more concerned with her health than IDing her at the moment - the cops meanwhile would still be looking in the crash debris for identifying info on the Jane Does. If it had gone on any longer then I'm sure they'd move on to the usual methods: taking fingerprints and running them through local databases, taking her photo and releasing it to the press, etc. But it could easily have been too early for any of that.
Evil Nurse Brenda- 05-19-2008
Hmmm, let’s see. The latest speculation has Amber as possibly being House’s secret daughter and last week, the same speculator suggested that Amber was a hooker who had banged House. But hey, wouldn’t that make it INCEST? Add in the previously suggested Nazism, domestic & mental abuse, forcing sex on Wilson and one can only assume, ax-murdering.
And we’re done.
People listen up and listen very, very carefully. The end of this season has seen a rather alarming trend that we *thought* we had addressed last week. That would be the making of wild speculation that encompassed hot button topics with absolutely nothing to back it up. We made what we thought was a very clear post that our tolerance level had been reached. Apparently, it wasn’t clear at all.
We've asked people to avoid known triggers and to keep the spec firmly on planet earth. This sort of "speculation" derails the conversation and doesn't encourage serious discussion of the show as much as it serves as an attention getting measure for the poster. We've had numerous complaints from people who want to discuss the show based on the actual spoilers, promos, etc. (which is what this thread is for) but they feel forced out/shouted down by the fabulist theorizing. While a *little* crack-lite is fine, continuously escalating potentially offensive claims with no quality thought to back them up (sneering and condescending comments don’t count) does nothing but sabotage the thread and ruin it for the people who really want to discuss the show. This will not be tolerated. The majority rules here, folks.
So what can we do? They say it takes all kinds to make a world, right? Well, going forward we think we’ve found a way to please both the people who want to discuss the show without a healthy dose of WTF and the crack addicts.
There will be a new thread entitled: We Need the Curry: Irrational and Crazy SpeculationsFor those wondering where the name comes from:STACY: But he couldn't, could he? You know what Woody Allen said about relationships? "Irrational and crazy, but we go through it all because –
HOUSE: – we need the curry.
"We Need the Curry" will allow spec with spoilers so if you’re a spoilerphobic crackhead, we fear you may be SOOL.
Let’s explain the ground rules and also define “crack”:
If the thought process is "Because we know such and such, what if... is also true" is a real possibility. But if it is just "what if..." without any "because" in front of it, it is wild speculation. Not just "because I decided to think so” – that doesn’t work.
If there is nothing in the show, the history of the show or the spoilers available to indicate that something may occur in the future, it is crack. Normal speculation is that something may be unlikely but it is based on what we know.
Even in the “We Need the Curry” thread the serious hot button issues -- Nazis, incest, puppy-killing are not open for speculation. If there is something to back them up, they belong on the serious discussion thread. If there's nothing, they don't belong on HHoW. Enough is enough. Time to yank on the reins and shout “Whoa”
I’m sure we’re going to get some cries of “censorship” but honestly, folks, we can’t please everyone and as we already mentioned, a large number of people have expressed complaints and concerns. Some have left because they didn’t feel comfortable. It’s past the time to act especially since new spoilers for Season 5 will be coming down the pike fairly soon since they are now shooting episodes. We think we're being more than fair by allowing both schools of thought to to co-exist on the forum (within reason).
We will be adopting the new policies immediately and we will move any posts that we deem uber-crack to the “We Need the Curry” thread.
If you have comments and concerns, as always, please contact any of the moderators. If you are seriously offended by this and/or don’t want to tame your theorizing to fit in with the new guidelines, then perhaps HHoW is not the place for you. Just know that going forward we will be enforcing the policy strictly.
Enjoy the finale.