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Taiga- 12-02-2008
Bitches Who Know What They Want: Foreman/Thirteen
Hey, he hugged her. I think there's something there, and they're alike in some ways. This and "Going Both Ways" were the only title threads I can think of. Feel free to change (or delete), mods. ETA Do you think the writers would put them together just to make "Foreteen" jokes??

Chipmunk_love- 12-02-2008

I completely enjoy the name of this thread. And this ship. How can you ever go wrong with "Foreteen?" :D Could they soften each other? Could they, dare I say, make each other smile? Would the world end if both did so at the same time?

travin1- 12-03-2008

I'm just glad Foreman is getting a storyline that really doesn't involve House :) The hug was sweet.

blacktop- 12-03-2008

I was surprisingly not bored with the Foreman/Thirteen storyline. This romance, if it goes that way, is being developed as an intriguing foil to the House/Cuddy story, as is also true of the Chase/Cameron relationship. I like that House the Grand Manipulator is carefully tracking the developing attachment of the "smarter half" of his team and I think that he specifically agreed to Foreman's taking on the pilot Huntington's study as a way to bring the two together. If Foreman choses to enter a serious relationship with Thirteen it will stand as a rather stunning reversal of his previous commitment phobia. We saw him run away from that blonde nurse in season three, but most importantly we know that he turned away from his mother, whose deteriorating mental condition directly parallels what awaits Thirteen. (That was the value of those powerful and discrete flashback scenes to Thirteen's mother's fate.) To chose this devastatingly tough path would exemplify the kind of emotional courage that is the hallmark of other key characters on this show, with the notable exception of House himself. I think that emotional courage in the face of death is one of the major themes of the entire show, a fact underlined by its repetition over the seasons: -- Cameron chose to marry her love with the full knowledge that she had at most one year before his death; -- Stacy chose to save her love's life with the complete understanding that doing so would surely doom their relationship; -- Wilson (encouraged by Cuddy) chose to awaken Amber in order to tell her he loved her knowing that she had at best an hour left to live. -- If Foreman choses love with Thirteen they can know they will have at best 8 to 10 good years ahead, followed by an equal number of years in Hell. Because this is such a persistent theme, I do believe that this is the way TPTB will go with this story line.

Poeia- 12-03-2008

from Insensitive: Foreman: The sacrifices you made were huge. But they were at the height of your love for him. Commitment is only commitment because it has no expiration date. You stand next to someone and watch them floss for 30 years like my parents have, then ask for sacrifices. That's how you know the real thing. Cameron, I wasn't criticizing you. People who avoid commitment are people who know what a big thing it is. I have so little interest in learning more about either of these characters that I hope it doesn't develop. But the very fact that Thirteen does have an "expiration date" is what might enable Foreman to make a non-commitment commitment.

vitawash99- 12-03-2008

I thought this came off fairly well last night, considering that it could be really creepy and patronizing. In a way, this is a way for Foreman to do what Cameron said about the experience of working for House - take the good, leave the bad. Sure, Foreman's apparently snagged the key to her apartment to see what she's up to...but he's also willing to show that he does care and wants to help. It does, however, make OW's statement earlier this season that House has mommy issues suddenly reek of irony. :lol:

Chipmunk_love- 12-03-2008

from Insensitive: Foreman: The sacrifices you made were huge. But they were at the height of your love for him. Commitment is only commitment because it has no expiration date. You stand next to someone and watch them floss for 30 years like my parents have, then ask for sacrifices. That's how you know the real thing. Cameron, I wasn't criticizing you. People who avoid commitment are people who know what a big thing it is. I have so little interest in learning more about either of these characters that I hope it doesn't develop. But the very fact that Thirteen does have an "expiration date" is what might enable Foreman to make a non-commitment commitment. I guess Foreman is becoming Cameron (scary thought!).

Lully- 12-03-2008

I'm proud to say that I called this ship, back in No More Mr. Nice Guy :P I like their chemistry together, but since I still didn't watch the latest episode - I'm unusually unspoiled - I have no idea if they'll become more than good friends. Any way works for me, actually. I like Thirteen - I know, it must be something in the water I've been drinking... - and I find myself liking Foreman again when I see a scene between them. I do think they can be good to each other and redeem something they both may think life stole of them, while learning to trust and understand each other's weakness. This could be an interesting dynamic. And, yes! Foreteen it's just too good not to joke about!

shutterbug12- 12-11-2008

I'm just going to say that I love this pairing already. Love it. I've developed some hardcore love for Foreman lately, and so this kind of thrills me, and since we're getting more than enough personal storylines for other characters, I'm excited for something different, and to see Foreman the PERSON get some more development. And this was my second favorite kiss scene in the series. I don't care if I'm the only person who is totally squee-y about this. Maybe Foreman can learn to loosen up a little with and she can benefit from his stability.

reckless- 12-11-2008

Yeah but you do realize in all probability Foreman is just gonna get used to make 13 more likable, dont you? I mean I can smell Foreman goes controlling on poor dying 13 a mile away. By the way, am I the only one that thinks 13 spent a season and half doing her blank "mysterious chick" stare just so we d know she was in lurve when she smiled at foreman? :)

Lully- 12-11-2008

I don't care if I'm the only person who is totally squee-y about this Well, I didn't squee, but I found it very sweet. So I guess you're not totally alone, at least... I can smell Foreman goes controlling on poor dying 13 a mile away If the last episode showed us anything, is that 13 was the one with some 'power' over Foreman, not the other way around. He actually started to think about his motivations and behaviour because she hit a nerve. I believe they both may have a good influence in each other's life and, at least until now, my expectations are not frustrated, quite the opposite. And I didn't have notice (only after I saw some screencaps) but she gave him a day at a Spa. I found it so very cute! Foreman does need some relaxing time!

Chipmunk_love- 12-11-2008

So, how long do we think that this can reasonably last? I mean, knowing TPTB's obsession at the moment, this will be "the one," but an understanding the characters' personalities provides that this relationship should crash and burn pretty fast. Both Thirteen and Foreman have commitment issues. I wonder if Thirteen would take the first time that Foreman tries a "Get over it" on her as a cue to leave. Either Cameron or Wilson need to sit down with Foreman and have a conversation about taking on dying people as lovers. Probably Wilson, as Thirteen is technically Foreman's patient.

shutterbug12- 12-12-2008

Either Cameron or Wilson need to sit down with Foreman and have a conversation about taking on dying people as lovers. Probably Wilson, as Thirteen is technically Foreman's patient. Totally Wilson. I would love to see how that conversation would go, and not really because I think it would be humorous, but because it would be interesting. Foreman and Wilson seem to be capable of having actual serious grown-up conversations, even if they don't appear in scenes together all that often.

Lully- 12-12-2008

Either Cameron or Wilson need to sit down with Foreman and have a conversation about taking on dying people as lovers. I don't know if Wilson would be all that interested in talking about that. Cameron, OTOH... Not only she got involved with someone she knew was dying, but also in Insensitive, Foreman gave her a long speech about how her commitment was shallow, because there was an expiration date. I kind of want to see Cam's reaction (please, not a self-righteous reaction!) and how Foreman would perceive her approach. From the old team, Foreman and Cam, seemed to be the more 'close' to have this sort of conversation. And Cameron would have no bounds to give him some opinions and advice. I don't think Wilson cares enough about this sort of thing - unless it's House, he seems quite detached from other people's personal lives. If Foreman was to one who initiates the topic, I can see Wilson giving him all his attention, but otherwise, not so much.

girl_from_the_bus_stop- 12-17-2008

Foreman and Wilson seem to be capable of having actual serious grown-up conversations, even if they don't appear in scenes together all that often. Yup! Let us see that! I love the interaction among the two characters, but we dont get to see nearly enough of them :) .