Regarding House being so quick and open to Cuddy about waking up in the wrong bed... at first I was surprised at it, but now that I've seen the whole ep I have an interpretation: At the end of the ep he states seriously (for once) that he wants to be more than friends with Cuddy. I think when first spoke to her in the lobby, he wanted to be clear that "waking up in the wrong bed" did not mean he woke up in a woman's bed after a spontaneous hook-up. I think he wanted there for once to be no ambiguity about what he'd said. Loved all House and team scenes. Especially that House was so serious. I know being crazy over-the-top is part of his character most of the time, but it was such a nice thing to just watch him without it for a change. Great ending. Can't wait to see where this is going. The PotW didn't do anything for me this week. I wouldn't have cared if he had died in the first couple of minutes. I'm cold-hearted, aren't I? I was much more interested in House's story.

I've always thought that Wilson is selfish, so I actually grinned when he said that he was doing it for himself. I didn't understand if he meant it or he just said it to get rid of House, but at least I'm beginning to understand human talk. One step at a time, I guess. :P I've being waiting for Wilson to admit that he is selfish for years. I like that much better than not being able to admit to yourself that you... well care about yourself. I don't really care about Sam, but I really hope it turns out well. I also hope he will learn how to manage his time better. :P I just don't know if he's finally telling it as it is or he's just tired of babysitting House this year... Still, though, he paid them to go ask him out one after the other? Who thought that this would work? Meh, he should have told them to go get their useless drunk of a boss somewhere where they only serve juice. I'm not sure it would be worse than paying them to pretend to want to be his friends for one night. Or he could send him back to his apartment to play the piano and hire someone to slap him every time he reached for the bottle. If he wanted to force him to admit that he has fan with his fellows, why didn't he just make a bet with House? It had worked when Tommy had done it and he was 16 and admittedly stupid. And of course he screwed it up later, but still... Fail, Wilson! Hahahahahaha, people go to camp to become straight? We'd be interested in having them in Greece if they ever get sick. We don't cure homosexuality, but we have olive-tree leaves and acid for cancer, wax for burns, ksematiasma for... well, just about anything and many other things, too! Also, we could really use the money right now... OMG I can't believe I almost forgot! House spoke Greek! Hahahaha, I didn't understand if he said cold feet, cold fet or coldfitis or something, but he spoke Greek! Yay! Oh, he could come here, too! Yes, we have delicious tsikoudia, ouzo and tsipouro. I could really benefit from this, as I have an uncle who makes ouzo and tsipouro, A+. I would get a percentage. But seriously, he spoke Greek! :clap: :P And there was CUDDY! And she was pretty, too! I loved both scenes, especially the second one, of course. I don't understand why House won't just talk to someone. He knows he needs to. I feel for him, but... He knows where he's headed. I get that when he came back from Mayfield he didn't find things the way he wanted them to be, or maybe the way he thought he deserved them to be, but that doesn't mean he should stubbornly punish himself because Cuddy and Wilson got lives of their own. I really hope that this time he'll do better than he did last year...

Well, if he presented himself as straight to her.... I mean, if you dated someone, would you ask them if they had sex with someone of their own gender or would you assume they were heterosexual because they were dating you? I wouldn't assume it because I'm bi and I'm very up front about that. But a lot of my straight friends *would* assume it. Hahahahahaha, people go to camp to become straight? This is something that many of us don't even find vaguely funny here in the US. What they do to these poor people is horrible.

I've always thought that Wilson is selfish, so I actually grinned when he said that he was doing it for himself. I didn't understand if he meant it or he just said it to get rid of House, but at least I'm beginning to understand human talk I cannot possibly disagree more. Wilson selfish? The farthest thing from it. I could list all the countless examples from six years of the series, but I won't. But how about S6? He lets House stay with him, for months on end, he buys the condo, to get back at Cuddy for House, but also so that they have a more comfortable place. He talks to Nolan about House. He donates part of his liver to a friend, he buys a very expensive organ for House, for House's pleasure, and as House even said himself, "he never backs away from a respondibility, so much so that he is constantly taken advantage of by his friends." I'm sure there are many more examples from S6 alone that prove that Wilson is the total opposite of selfish. Yes, he did get together wiith Sam, but only after he was encouraged to do so by 13, after being hesitant because he was more concerned about House. Okay, so the last two episode he has been portrayed as being swept up by Sam, yet he still is concerned about House that he makes sure that House is not alone. I am sure there are many more examples from this season alone, but I don't think there is any way that Wilson is selfish. Does he occasionally think about himself? Yes, very occasionally. But much less so than any real person, or other fictional people for that matter. Wilson is the total opposite of selfish. That's his problem. He should be a lot more selfish, and not just be a doormat all the time. Gee, isn't that what exactly Amber said, and House said many times too?

House spoke Greek! Hahahaha, I didn't understand if he said cold feet, cold fet or coldfitis or something, but he spoke Greek! Does that particular figure of speech, i.e. "to get cold feet" exist in the greek language, I mean literally? So, Hoselton wrote the ep. I have to say I really like the way he writes House and Cuddy ;), I also enjoyed Airborne and Joy, he strucks a nice balance between banter and serious and sincere moments. The last House/Cuddy scene was powerful yet kinda cheesy w/ those closeups I don't know, why would the closeups be cheesy? I found them pretty matter of fact, which was also thanks to LE and HL, whose facial expressions were remarkably restraint, no tearing up or shaky sigh, if you know what I mean ;). but couldn't he have been more subtle about getting others to 'friend' House? Yeah that's what I though too. He could have asked or challenged House to go out with his colleagues to see if he would like it, I'm sure House would have done it if Wilson had put on his stern "no-bullshit-face" or if he'd disguised it as a game. And then Wilson could have talked to the team, unbeknownst to House, and ask them (or even offer payment, for all I care) to accept House's invitation. IMO, that's a pretty sad thing to learn someone got paid to spend time with you. Yeah, while I don't think that House minds people not liking him, actually having to sit through an evening with someone you know is just there because he gets paid by your best friend, who needs someone to babysit you (no matter how noble the real motives of said best friend might be), now that's a different matter and if you ask me pretty humiliating and screwed up. It emphasises how needy and dependent on his best friend House is in front of his team, and while I'm aware that they already know that, no need to showcase it like that. Now, I may be reading way too much into it ;), but those were my immediate feelings when I watched the episode. He lets House stay with him, for months on end, he buys the condo, to get back at Cuddy for House, but also so that they have a more comfortable place. He talks to Nolan about House. He donates part of his liver to a friend, he buys a very expensive organ for House, for House's pleasure, Okay, so the last two episode he has been portrayed as being swept up by Sam, yet he still is concerned about House that he makes sure that House is not alone. I think that's exactly the problem. I'm not saying that Wilson doesn't have the right to be selfish and put his own needs first, but what I see is that Wilson first tends to selflessly lavish his attention and affection on someone and then suddenly deprives the person of it. We've been told that he's done it with his wifes and to some degree this is happening with House too. Now we all know how needy House is when it comes to Wilson's company, and I know that he's not entitled to all of Wilson's time, but I think it's understandable that House doesn't react well to such an abrupt change in attention (who does, really?). Especially since he seems to have some sort of abandonment issues. Or is Wilson doing the best he can at this point -- while also living his own life. He's being a friend to House, but to expect him to completely sacrifice his own happiness for something he doesn't even know is necessarily happening is asking too much. But that doesn't mean that he's handling "being a friend to House" right. Some of the comments make it almost sound like spending some more time on House equals sacrificing Wilson's own happiness. House is his best friend, so one could assume that Wilson enjoys spending time with him. I mean, sure, that would mean less time with Sam, but I'm sure she has some friends of her own that would love to meet up with her. So let's say Wilson decides to spend an evening with House instead of Sam, all I'm saying is that House would benefit more from it than Sam and Wilson would suffer because of it. Maybe that's my problem, it makes me sad that Wilson doesn't miss spending time with House, as much as House does. Which is understandable, given that he's in a new relationship, but still. ETA: That being said, I'm sure they mean for Wilson's behaviour to be ambiguous and I appreciate that.

Hahahahahaha, people go to camp to become straight? This is something that many of us don't even find vaguely funny here in the US. What they do to these poor people is horrible. Sorry, what are those places exactly? I imagined something sort of like the Faith Healer from season 2. House spoke Greek! Hahahaha, I didn't understand if he said cold feet, cold fet or coldfitis or something, but he spoke Greek! Does that particular figure of speech, i.e. "to get cold feet" exist in the greek language, I mean literally? No, we don't say that in greek. @ wintertide I don't think he's selfish for wanting to have a life. But I also don't think he bought the apartment for House's comfort. He sure as hell didn't think of it when he let him sleep on a couch for weeks or when he made him sleep in Amber's shrine. I think that he mostly bought the condo because it was about time that he moved away from Amber's apartment. I'm not saying that he doesn't think of others, I do think that he gains something out of it, though. Or he wouldn't do it. He probably doesn't even realize it, but he's far from a saint. ETA: Ted underwent “conversion therapy,” an intense “treatment” to make him not gay: a dangerous cocktail of aversion therapy, testosterone injections and electroconvulsive therapy (ECT, or shock treatment) Oh my God, Barbara Barnett wrote this. Do they really do all those things to people? Electroconvulsive therapy is like... what they do in psychiatric hospitals, right? Shouldn't it be illegal?

I thought we were going to have more Chase during this episode. Well, what we got was pure gold p-but, damn, it's the end of the season and that's it. The episode was good.

Oh my God, Barbara Barnett wrote this. Do they really do all those things to people? Electroconvulsive therapy is like... what they do in psychiatric hospitals, right? Shouldn't it be illegal? Yeah they do. Yes, it is what they do in psychiatric And yeah, it should be illegal. It still happens though - that's why I was letting you know that it wasn't a laughing matter. Far from it. But this was all in the episode - they described in detail what had happened to him.

I usually watch it live, but the link wasn't working. By the time I found a new one I had missed the first 30 minutes and I had downloaded a couple of trojans... I finally managed to download it at 7 in the morning, but my laptop keeps freezing. So I only watched the scene with Cuddy and House speaking greek. Yeah, I know this is all very interesting. I read about it here and I figured that it was just people preaching or some sort of stupid college dropouts who pretend to be doctors and encourage people to drink tree leaves, or something expensive yet harmless like that. Then after I read your posts I searched for like 5 minutes tops and I learned that it's called "reparative therapy", I know the name of a camp and also names of so called doctors and I also saw proof that it doesn't work. There's a video on youtube titled "Ex-Gay Survivors", ffs. It's insane that they let it continue. But honestly I still don't know what to think of the people who are willing to go through this, though...

It's horrific, isn't it? I think the people who go through this are absolutely desperate. For whatever reason (family or religious disapproval) they really want to try to be straight. Case in point: one of my closest friends comes from a very strict, close knit large Southern Baptist family. When he came out, they disowned him and most of them stopped speaking to him (along with most of the community where he lived). He was absolutely devastated. Now, almost 20 years later, he's got a somewhat less contentious relationship with them. It's still icy and they still tell him regularly that he's going to hell and recently, they hurt him very badly by signing petitions urging their senators to deny equal rights to gays, but they're speaking to him again. I can see where that might drive a person (who is less strong than he is) to want to try to change who they were. The loss of family, friends, lifestyle, etc. is heartbreaking. All for being who you are. It's sad. He's a lovely, wonderful man who has done great things and it's their loss not knowing him.

Just watched (a little late) and took time to process. I enjoyed it, a lot, but I mourn that these really good episodes are now nearing the end of seasons, with a very good start and a weaker middle. Everyone was great, and I still don't care about Taub's marriage, and I loved Thirteen (Oh, did I say that?). Loved Foreman enjoying himself as much as House, and Chase open admission "we did not want to, but Wilson already paid us" :lol: I took my take on Cuddy in the shipper thread, but I do hope she will come to herself soon, as she actually (despite her assertions) seems to suffer as much as House. And I am really not sure they can be in sync at some point. I was convinced they were going on the alcohol way for him to slip. Yes, the area House was massaging in Wilson's office was his liver, but it could be from the massive recent drinking, and not a long term concern (just as the blurr in Locked in, which was never explicited) : there is a condition called acute alcoolic hepatitis, related to huge acute intake of alcool, causing (among other things) liver pain, but not long term liver damage, if not repeated too often. I am feeling the beginning of Finale anguish : I do wish we could have, for one time, a cliffhanger not involving a House complete breakdown, but I am not too optimistic.... :puppyeyes: