6.07 Known Unknowns

If Wilson told Cuddy, she doesn't need to talk to Lucas about it; she can talk to Wilson. It would be both more natural and more appropriate, as they're House's friends, know his history, and there would then be no need for any further betrayal of confidence. For story-telling purposes, someone needed to give that little spiel. To me, it would make even less sense coming from Cuddy at that point because the audience wouldn't take her for just being a concerned friend. If her boyfriend is saying it, it does. And if a guy happened to have hallucination sex with you, would you talk to his best friend about it? And if both of those guys happened to be her employees? I am a big advocate for Cuddy and Wilson's friendship, but I can easily see how that conversation would be too awkward for both of them.

Well, I thought the episode was pretty good. Interesting POTW, a lot of witty comebacks. Huddy was a little forced, but done with so much more grace than in the last season that I won't even bitch about it.

I really wish house said someething to Cuddy at the diner. First she said that she didn't tell them she was dating lucas becuase she's a private person, but then she clearly doens'st respect House's privacy by blabbing all that to Lucas about his time in the nut house. which is ever more personal than a silly fling. The one time House doesn't speak up!!

I'm not bothered that Cuddy shared the details of House's breakdown with Lucas. Why wouldn't she tell Lucas, her boyfriend/babysitter the details of it as it relates to her? My problem is with Lucas. They guy has no internal editor and he needs one. I don't care how quirky or off-beat he is he still needs to learn to measure his words. Cuddy must not have been too bothered by Lucas' thoughtlessness because a few scenes later she and Lucas were playing happy family with Rachael. On another note, where have I seen the guy who played the dad in the episode?

Has anyone noticed that during the breakfast scene Wilson looks like he wants to kick Lucas' ass? :)

Exactly. He was completely gobsmacked by that whole thing. I imagine it was akin to "target confusion," not knowing what to respond to, her betrayal to PI about the most personal experiences of a tremendously private person, clearly Wilson's betrayal of same to her, and wondering who else knows if the three of them know, since blabbermouth PI has no idea when to shut up. I expect the implications were mushrooming in his head like the cloud of an atomic bomb. And here he was at ground zero. Awful, unpleasant scene. I have no interest and see no chemistry between Lucas and Cuddy. His is not a very good character and here he's just a squealing plot device. On reflection, despite some excellent moments and fabulous lead actor performances, this one was, well, far from being a favorite. Messy script imho. Disjointed and crammed. No room to breathe and savor the points being made.Too rushed. Hope we are back to previous standard in next ep.

RSL was great nonetheless:I have to say that his performance here may be even better than his one in Wilson's Heart

On another note, where have I seen the guy who played the dad in the episode? He looks like Alan Rickman to me, but IMDB says he's famous for having played the Olsen twins father twice. On the subject of House, I think we as fans experience a lot more shock and betrayal on House's behalf than he does himself. OK, Lucas opened his big fat mouth and made the lunch uncomfortable, but House has seen Lucas do that several times before. He knows Lucas is bringing it up because Lucas has no filter, not to be hurtful. And it may have been that Wilson discussed the content of House's fantasy with Cuddy -- although it may have been House who shared it during the walk between Cuddy's office and Wilson's office in "Both Sides Now" -- but if so, House obviously has no lingering hard feelings against Wilson for it at the end of the episode.

I'm not surprised Cuddy told Lucas about House's hallucination. The hallucination was about her, and we already have evidence (6.02) that Cuddy feels responsible and guilty about what happened to House. Now that we know she knows that she was the 'saviour' in House's hallucination, I also wonder if she believes that she has failed him in that respect - that she *should* have 'saved' him somehow, or that *House* thinks that she should have helped him in some way. It's a big thing to have to deal with, and since Lucas is her boyfriend, it makes sense she talked to him. *shrug* I... will also admit to a bit of schadenfreude when Lucas blurted everything in public. Because House is indeed an intensely private person, but he usually only respects his own privacy (except in select situations - because unlike Lucas, he does have an internal sensor; he only uses it as and when he deems in necessary). House, of course, is no standard, and it was a terrible moment for him. But yes, I did feel a moment of completely irrational 'oh, a taste of your own medicine, House'. *ducks rotten tomatoes 8

Ah, filter! That was the word I was looking for, dee. I think you are right. I don't think Lucas mentioned it to be mean but I still found it an awful scene to watch. I know someone who has the same problem as Lucas and I can tell you from experience that people like that are maddening and infuriating. On occasion, it can be entertaining but mostly it's just awful to have to sit through. Maybe that's why the scene, for me, was so cringeworthy. It hit too close to home.

I don't understand at all how it could have been Wilson's fault that Lucas knew about the imagined sex and was such a jerk about it. We have absolutely no evidence that House told Wilson about the hallucinations!sex, and if he did if Wilson told Cuddy. And if Wilson did talk to Cuddy about it, well, that would be totally understandble, after all House was in Mayfield for months, it is not surprising that Wilson needed to talk to Cuddy about House. Besides, didn't House talk about hallucination!sex with Cuddy herself in Epic Fail? I'm pretty sure they did in one of the kitchen scenes. So it could not have been a surprise to House that Cuddy knew, only that Lucas knew about it. I don't think it can in any way be justified that Cuddy talked to Lucas about it. Lucas is not a close friend of House, he had no lastingl ties to him at all. So the only ones who should be blamed are Cuddy, and of course Lucas himself for being a jerk.

On another note, where have I seen the guy who played the dad in the episode? He played Del on "Caroline in the City." That's where I saw him.

We have absolutely no evidence that House told Wilson about the hallucinations!sex, and if he did if Wilson told Cuddy. And if Wilson did talk to Cuddy about it, well, that would be totally understandble, after all House was in Mayfield for months, it is not surprising that Wilson needed to talk to Cuddy about House. House spent all of "Both Sides Now" telling Wilson about the hallucination sex and the detox. ("Wow. Wow," Wilson said. "That's one for each.") House (and Wilson) just didn't know at the time that it was an hallucination. I'm still reluctant to call Lucas a jerk because in the connotation I know, jerks act either with intent to hurt or with no regard for another person's feelings. Lucas intended to be supportive even though it turned out very, very cringe-worthy.

Along with the speculation about the Perlmutter badge, it just occurred to me, where did House get the drugs to dope Wilson? Is it something House or Wilson takes? If it's Wilson's, I wouldn't think he'd bring along that many tablets for a short conference. Would House be given something with the potential to knock himself out like that? He doesn't have his license back to write a prescription. Did he suspect Wilson before they left for the conference? Thank you for asking this question becasue I have been really wondering about it too. I cannot think of any logical way that House could get the drugs powerfull enough to knock Wilson out so quickly at the hotel. He has no medical license, so he couldn't write a prescription for it. And besides, House didn't know about the speech till after they were at the hotel. The only realistic possiblity is that he used allergy medicines or cough syrup, but he couldn't have put so much in a small amout of soda without Wilson tasting it, and I think the amout of otc drugs needed to knock a grown man out so quickly would cause other problems too. I'm also wondering how House could have possibly have come up with that comstume at the hotel too. It doesn't seem possible. As much as I adore DE, there should be some resemblense to reality. But then again Son of Coma Guy makes no sense either, but I love that episode and forgive her for the total unreality of it. But I guess that's cause it was a much better episode overall. As much as I liked the House/Wilson parts in this one, it was rather unrealistic, and I think the biggest problem was that it tried to tell way too many stories for such a small amount of time. ETA: Of coure deelaundry, now I feel really dumb for forgetting about most of BSN, I guess I just watched the ending so many times that that's the only part that is stuck in my head from that ep. Okay, now I feel even dumber.

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