OMG. I'm just, like, shaking after that. I'm speechless. Mostly b/c I'm afraid if I open my mouth, all kinds of sqwaking will come out. OMG.
Fantastic ep - I loved the House/Wilson dynamic, and this episode definitely felt so much better with Wilson being the one with House at the end, instead of Cuddy being there last week. Whereas Cuddy and House was the false reality last week, and felt contrived and unreal, Wilson and House are totally the real thing.
I wish they could have hugged or something at the end, though.
wintertide- 05-11-2009
I really have to watch it again to have anything intelligent to say, but that was just absolutely awesome. It was not what I expected, I thought the sex was real, and I thought there would be some real angst,, but I thought it was amazing.
And of course I am thrilled that it ended with House/Wilson.
I'm not concerned that House is going to the hospital, cause he will be okay next season.
The last ten minutes were amazing, and maybe it just my House/Wilson viewpoint, but to me it all meant that he just created all the Huddiness in his mind, as a mask for the real truth.
Anyway, I loved it. I
Taiga- 05-11-2009
What everyone else said plus this:
SO WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH HOUSE ANYWAY?? Stress-induced psychosis? Vicodin overdose? Schitzophrenia? What?
fffaw- 05-11-2009
Olivia720 - good to see you back. You need to catch up with the last 5 or so eps - some good stuff this season.
peggy06- 05-11-2009
OK, semi-over the Glee thing. Kung Fu Panda redux, indeed. As to the episode, I agree with whoever said it depressed them more than they imagined possible. Boy, I have to give props to those who called hallucination last week, I was sure it was real and they just took shortcuts for dramatic purposes (like they did with the clinical trials subplot). I suppose I also have to give props to the show for not having used that cop-out. Right now, my reaction to the end is pretty mixed. Maybe if I knew what exactly was happening? Is House going there to detox or is he truly suffering from a mental illness? If the latter, I'm pretty much in hate with the show because they haven't begun to earn a plot like that with the shenanigans over 2+ years, and it's just way, way too heavy and sad for (I have to say it) the hero of the show. I just can't imagine where they go after this.
Other random thoughts: Kutner being brought back=cheesy, not making any sense within hallucination as previously presented. Chase and Cameron's wedding was pretty, but it made me feel bad to watch them exchange vows.
ETA, the acting in the last 10+ minutes was very good, and I can appreciate that the episode was cunningly constructed. Just not so sure about how it ended/where they're going. IMO, this is by far the trickiest thing they've touched on yet. You cannot be hamhanded or gloss over mental illness.
So, looking back to the Mos Def episode and the look on House's face in the elevator at the end: Was this the start of the hallucinations, or some prelude to the hallucinations?
Namaste- 05-11-2009
Another thought in that I also think they took a risk here in taking House to a mental breakdown, and not just a momentary glitch. Not only in terms of this being the man who doesn't believe in psychiatry, but in that House has only been able to get away with the crazy stunts because he's actually fully aware of the risks involved in them, and what happens if he doesn't do them. Now, however, whatever recovery he does have will also tinge his every decision. His diagnoses (if he's able to practice again) will be questioned -- especially by him. His instincts have always been among his strongest qualities -- the intuition and the epiphanies in which he manages to make things fit. Can he now trust himself? Can others trust him? It's a hell of a jump to take, and it's going to be interesting to see it play out.
Just the fear in House's eyes here, as he realizes he's no longer able to tell reality from fantasy, and he's been treating patients in this state. He obviously knew that Amber was a hallucination, but the entire detox and sex he couldn't separate from reality at all.
Phobe- 05-11-2009
What everyone else said plus this:
SO WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH HOUSE ANYWAY?? Stress-induced psychosis? Vicodin overdose? Schitzophrenia? What?
Some kind of mid-life crisis? Thinking back over the season, it seems to me that House starts going slowly off-kilter in "Birthmarks" when his non-biological!Dad dies, shortly after Amber's death. And then Kutner dies and House very quickly goes downhill afterwards. (And there seems to be some kind of parallel to be drawn between Wilson driving House to face the reality of his dad's funeral (his past?) and Wilson driving House to the hospital (facing the reality of his present?)).
I love how elegantly constructed this show is - such a mind job!
OldHamster- 05-11-2009
OMG. I'm just, like, shaking after that. I'm speechless. Mostly b/c I'm afraid if I open my mouth, all kinds of sqwaking will come out. OMG.
Fantastic ep - I loved the House/Wilson dynamic, and this episode definitely felt so much better with Wilson being the one with House at the end, instead of Cuddy being there last week. Whereas Cuddy and House was the false reality last week, and felt contrived and unreal, Wilson and House are totally the real thing.
I wish they could have hugged or something at the end, though.
ITA. Wilson, if you're not going to hug the man, step aside and let me, mmkay? Then I'll give you one. Damn, they both broke my heart at the end.
My fondest wish was that the Huddy was a hallucination. My second-fondest wish was that the Chase/Cameron wedding wouldn't happen. Oh, well, can't have everything. Although I don't care for the pairing, I loved the eye candy that was the wedding scene, with J.Mo bringing the radiant. But she needs to work on her crying. That locker room scene was the fakest crying that ever faked. And I know she can do it convincingly -- I saw "Informed Consent."
This episode made me feel the way I did after the Kutner suicide -- want to cry but I'm uncomfortably numb.
::rocks back and forth, repeating, "It's only a teevee show, it's only a teevee show ... " ::
ETA: That was Carl Reiner? Holy moly, when did he get so OLD?
TJRX- 05-11-2009
I could write pages of comments and praises of this final episode but what I really want to say is that it is great that five seasons into a show we still have so much to enjoy, reflect on, rewatch and discuss.
All the creative people in front of and behind the camera are to be commended for capturing the attention and imaginations of their audience.
So few shows can manage to do that for even a short amount of time.
rathrbereading- 05-11-2009
This episode... while very good will definitely NOT be one of my favorites. I must admit not the season ending that I was hoping for, while sort of what I was expecting because I read sort of the spoilers. House being sent to that (very creepy) institution. Also the Huddy fan in me is alternating between anger and sadness. It wasn't real! Why?!?
I'm also now SUPER confused. Now I can't figure out WHAT scenes are real or not. Is only the last scene real? Is it only when Cuddy's wearing that purple top? Why wasn't she mad in the beginning, when he first came in and stole her coffee cup?
Basically when did the hallucinations begin and end?
(BTW, if anyone can figure it out, can you tell me? It would be A LOT of help)
Positives:
Carl Reiner
The beginning like half was funny
House was actually considering SOMETHING w/ Cuddy
Sorry for the ridiculously long post, but I had to let it out.
wintertide- 05-11-2009
I rewatched the ending, and I noticed something interesting. Just as Chase was putting the ring on Cameron's finger, House gave Wilson his watch.
I don't think that was unintentional.
And I would have loved a hug at the end, but I guessI'm okay that it didn't happen, because it should happen when House is okay.
I also think it makes perfect sense that Wilson went no farther. House had to go in on his own.
BUt still, the ring/watch juxtaposition, well, it has to mean something.
Well, to me it all means that the House realized that the Huddiness was just a figment of his imagination, a way of excaping from the truth. And he finally realized and admitted he needed help, and he finally decided to get help for everything, including the Vicodin, for Wilson.
Or that's what I want to believe.
Namaste- 05-11-2009
Also the Huddy fan in me is alternating between anger and sadness. It wasn't real! Why?!?
Tell your inner Huddy fan this: The perfect life that his fantasy life created for him was one in which he was happy, both in terms of his pain and Vicodin addiction lessening and in terms of being with someone who wanted to be with him.
Just because it wasn't real doesn't mean that there wasn't some part of his subconscious that wasn't pulling for that very scenario.
But I have one really stupid question. In the midst of House walking into the institution, I was thinking: That suitcase has wheels. Why are you carrying it?
ETA: Quick mod question. If we want to bring up the issues of the hallucination detox in "Under My Skin," should we go to that thread? Or discuss it here when those realities were revealed?
Poeia- 05-11-2009
Fortunately, Cuddy can't fire House without full board approval. Unfortunately, at this point she could get it.
I got a bit misty when House got to the hospital and opened his hand to reveal the lipstick. It was just the idea that he was showing his soft, sentimental side.
Then, after the reveal, I thought he hadn't. But, 45 minutes later I realize that House did react that way to what he thought was a tube of lipstick that Cuddy had left behind. The fact that it wasn't there doesn't change his reaction.
So House announced to the hospital that he and Cuddy had slept together. And they hadn't.
And now we know why House was fully detoxed in one night.
Jennifer Morrison cries really well. Chase figuring out the real reason she wanted to keep the sperm was very well done. Wanting to make sure a loved one "survives," that there's evidence that he was there, is very real. (And once Chase figured out the puzzle, he was fine with it.)
From Insensitive:
"When you guys are out of this program, Cameron will find somebody. Chase will find eight somebodies. And you’ll be alone."
From Alone:
"I have a gift for observation. For reading people in situations. But sometimes, I am wrong."
I'm glad House was wrong about Chase.It's nice to see two people on this show have a normal, adult relationship.
ETA: Loved "I don't want to be homeless."
I can't talk about the final scene. I can barely think about the final scene.
It's going to be a long summer.
Taiga- 05-11-2009
It's nice to see two people on this show have a normal, adult relationship.
So much word. Them resolving their differences made me like them together. As for Chase, maybe he found seven somebodies before Cameron :D
Fortunately, Cuddy can't fire House without full board approval. Unfortunately, at this point she could get it.
I don't think she'll want to fire him any more. She wanted to fire him after thinking he was pulling a terrible prank, she didn't know he thought what he'd said was true. On the contrary, I think Cuddy will do everything in her power to help House return to practicing medicine.
I really liked it that the patient's girlfriend solved the puzzle.
I must be the only person on this board who has never heard of Carl Reiner before he was announced as a guest star.
Real obvious with the words "Psychiatric Hospital" being printed on the building, there. The psychiatric hospitals I've seen (don't ask) never have the words "psychiatric" or "mental" or anything in their names, they're just ordinary hospital names.
sherlock21b- 05-11-2009
I'm glad House was wrong about Chase.It's nice to see two people on this show have a normal, adult relationship.
I'm right there with you about seeing two people having a normal adult relationship, though I'm not entirely sure normal would apply to those two (the writers have been very up and down when dealing with them over the last two seasons). I am very afraid to see what they might inflict on Chase and Cameron next season.
As for House's take on Chase: Historically, House hasn't been all that good in reading Chase. If he had been, he could have avoided half the Vogler mess in the first season.