5.23 - Under My Skin

Ah, Namaste, I wish this site didn't change your icon on every post you've made whenever you put up a new one. That icon deserves to be preserved next to some posts. If the time frame in Under My Skin was realistic, then Detox and Merry Little Christmas weren't. But even if the drug was out of his system, the craving for it (addiction) and the need for it (nerve and muscle damage) don't disappear as soon as you finish taking the drug. Claritin is one of those drugs you are supposed to take every day to maintain a constant level. If I don't take my generic Claritin for a day, it leaves my system. The result of that is not that I no longer want it, it's that I want it more because there's none in my system and the itching and sneezing start.

I really enjoyed the dynamic between Wilson and House in this episodes...i really like how wilson isnt all overhim anymore, lecturing and analyzing like he was in sason 3 but instead of manipulating is really trying to help. He doesn't even wonders why it is Amber that House sees because in my opinion he knows why and knows that House knows so he doesn't have to throw it in his friends' face.

My friend had a explanation for the insta-detox. He's not actually detoxing 10 (it is 10 right?) years of pills. He's detoxing about 2. If you think about it, he detoxed for a week in Season 1 then twice in Season 3. Sooo, if you assume those three detoxes got rid of the Vicodin in his system, then the detox would be shorter. (Also, it's tv). However he could be completely wrong. Both of our knowledge consists of: you don't take the drug and somehow it gets out of your system. Also have an explanation for Cuddy saying she hasn't lied to him in 20 years: Do things like curing Richard in Meaning and giving House a saline injection in Skin Deep not count? House then says something to the effect of "Yes you have, which means you're only saying that to tell me what you lied about 20 years ago." So yeah she has lied to him before.

Simply too much awesomeness to put into a post with a word count of less than about 3000 words. I'll try to restrain myself. :wink: Liked that every character had balanced input. No scene in there, that I didn't enjoy. In terms of acting by HL "Merry Little Christmas" has been my favorite since it aired. The detoxing was simply amazing then. I didn't think he could top that. And he so did! What a performance. Simply stunning. I've been a long time defender of the view that House may not really be a full blown addict, but possibly suffer from pseudo addiction. I convinced myself that he was in a little bit more of control than he is. This episode finally pretty much convinced me that he has no control over his actions when it comes to Vicodin. I'm glad that it took this long for me to make up my mind. Halluci-Amber has given us such a wonderful additional insight into House's thoughts. Off for a re-watch now. :w00t:

One of the little moments in the episode, showing -- to me -- how much of himself that House was willing to expose, even before calling Wilson for help after creepy Amber singing was when House actually asked for/let Wilson help with the blood test. We've seen him get by without help in blood tests in the past, but it obviously meant something to Wilson to help, and for whatever reason, House needed that support as well. Another thought on compressing time in this episode ... am I right in remembering that House had a lumbar puncture to test for MS? It was only mentioned in passing, but I don't think he would have been walking around immediately after that. Also, in terms of the detox, someone at the other place stated: i'm a nurse, and actually, Vicodin has a very short half-life. Half life is hard to explain but in essence, all vicodin and its effects on him would be gone from his system in 12-19 hours. So, that was not an unrealistic detox so that lends credence that it was NOT a dream/hallucination. Now he would test POSITIVE for vicodin in his urine probably for 3 days, and his hair, probably at least 2 months...but that is just testing positive for it...the drug itself would no longer be having an effect on him after 12-19 hours. That's why Cuddy left and that's why she kissed him. Because she knew that the drugs were no longer affecting him JMO. Yeah I heard that too. If I recall Polite Dissent didn't like the detox elements in Detox and MLC because they were unrealistic. Apparently, Vicodin detox is not that difficult, although House should still continue to experience some symptoms over the next 72 hours. We'll see what happens in the finale. But after the physical detox is over it becomes a question of whether or not he can stay clean. Having cravings, finding new coping methods, etc. Interesting, but this time around Polite Dissent had nothing to say about House's detox. They canned the POTW medical stuff as confusing but liked the "soap" aspects of the show, which includes the detox.

Just realized... Larry Kaplow really likes to kill his patients to diagnose them, doesn't he? :wink: He said that was the central idea in "Autopsy" and he used it here as well. Even with a timer running again. Sneaky, talented fellow.

Unfortunately I missed this episode (had to work) BUT, does anyone have any idea why it's not on Amazon or iTunes yet? They're usually up the next day, right? Also, I can comment on the Vicodin detox. I came off 2 years of pretty heavy usage myself. Granted, everyone's experience is different, but I'm pretty sure House would NOT have been fine the day after (again, not having seen the ep yet, I could be talking out my hindend, so take it at face value). The first 3 days were miserable. The detox in Detox was quite a lot like what I went through. Sweats, body aches, increased pain, insomnia, photophobia, nausea, diarrhea, runny nose, burning eyes. It started around 12 hours after my last dose, the worst symptoms were about 18-36 hours, and then got gradually better. I experienced some pain and sweating for about a week after, and my GI tract wasn't right for a month. FWIW.

this is quite making me crazy. Amazon has been inconsistent of late. overnight to three days, depending. I have a sub. to my TiVo. can't wait to see the ep sans adverts. Unfortunately I missed this episode (had to work) BUT, does anyone have any idea why it's not on Amazon or iTunes yet? They're usually up the next day, right? Also, I can comment on the Vicodin detox. I came off 2 years of pretty heavy usage myself. Granted, everyone's experience is different, but I'm pretty sure House would NOT have been fine the day after (again, not having seen the ep yet, I could be talking out my hindend, so take it at face value). The first 3 days were miserable. The detox in Detox was quite a lot like what I went through. Sweats, body aches, increased pain, insomnia, photophobia, nausea, diarrhea, runny nose, burning eyes. It started around 12 hours after my last dose, the worst symptoms were about 18-36 hours, and then got gradually better. I experienced some pain and sweating for about a week after, and my GI tract wasn't right for a month. FWIW.

Guh! The first ep this season I've missed and one of the top ones I've wanted to see, and now Amazon is being like THIS! Ack! I feel like I'm detoxing again - how long to withdraw from 5 years of House?

Question. Do seizures always lead to release of the bladder? They made it sound like it in the green pee scene in "Here Kitty". Odd, that that was the thought that popped into my head when House asked Wilson to hand him his pants after he woke up. And too bad they didn't catch that HL's right thigh was visible without the scar. Never get tired of seeing it, sicko me. Did House know the waitress at the bar/diner because he's a regular, or did he just read her name on her name tag and was being nice because he was celebrating? What do you guys think? (I haven't checked yet, but from memory it looks like the same place he and Wilson went to in "Softer Side".) Somehow on first viewing it wasn't clear to me that House had hung up the phone after talking to Foreman and then dialed Wilson "Wilson, come get me.". That would have been odd for Foreman, wouldn't it? :wink:

And too bad they didn't catch that HL's right thigh was visible without the scar. Never get tired of seeing it, sicko me. Unless that's supposed to mean something, clue wise. I don't know, just wondering. It could have, but at the same time it looked like they were trying to hide it. They may not have anticipated legions of fangirls unable to look Hugh in the eyes. ;)

Some of the things to21be mentions seemed odd to me too. I dunno. Something's odd about this sequnce of events and how people were reacting to House. I don<'t quite think he's hallucinating what's going on but House has proven to an unreliable narrator in the past. And when he dreams about himself, he doesn't limp, here his right thigh seems uninjured, so I do suspect he will wake up in some way next ep. Nonetheless still a fabulous episode, so very well done by all. Is it Monday?

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