As far as Meat Loaf's acting goes -- yeah, I really liked it. I'm a bit of a Meat Loaf fan from the stuff I've seen him in, so when I was spoiled and saw he'd be guest starring, I was kind of excited. travlncarrie: I think so. To me it looked like all the rooms they shot in were smoky and all the lights were turned off, but once again, that could have just been my TV.

Did Kal Penn quit or something? No, apparently it was a creative decision. A very, very crappy one, but there you have it. It's official, two out of the three things that I liked about the new team being brought in are now gone and the third one's coming back in full force next week, that's just great.

It was a creative decision.

If this was supposed to be shocking and emotionally affecting...well, man did it miss that boat. And the previews for next week (and the rewind of a topic that I thought we'd FINALLY put behind us) just had me steaming.

Well I also absolutely hated it. Not what I thought was going to happen at all. I don't get what the point was. Totally ridiculous. A total waste of a week obsessing about this episode.

That was a let down. They could have done more with what could have been a powerful story. I guess you can't expect much when they had Boreteen find the body. OW just can't act to save her life. She made what should have been a moving scene into another badly acted one. The episode was just blah, boring even. I liked Cuddy's line to House that she was sorry that he didn't see it as his loss and I liked Wilson telling Cuddy that she doesn't care about him, only about having someone take care of House. Someone called me the minute Cameron came on and talked the whole time she was on, so I have no idea what happened there. Did Cam solve the case?

I didn't think it was awful, but it'll be a while before I re-watch it. Kutner hurts too bad.

Hey Spicy, I had that avatar first. :whistle:

OK, count me as someone who didn't hate it. Not sure I loved it. Not sure what to think. I've never had anyone I know commit suicide. However, I have had two people very close to me (mother, aunt) literally drop dead. No warning. I realize that the situations aren't identical but I could relate to the shock, the numbness -- and I didn't have to deal with the guilt. I THINK what they were trying to say is that suicide does often come out of nowhere. Was this the time, the episode? Not sure. I thought that, when Wilson saw Kutner's room (and the blood) he had a flashback to Amber's death. Then, I wasn't so sure. HL looked very old to me in this ep -- the lines in his face stood out more. I will rather miss Kutner. Of all of the new duckings, I enjoyed him the most.

I tried to remain as unspoiled as possible, though through the big honking hints dropped everywhere, I knew someone would die but not when or who. Kutner, of course, was the most unlikely -- especially in this manner -- so it'll have the most impact. (If they'd been dropping clues, it wouldn't have the same impact. Coming out of the blue, it hits the audience as unexpectedly as it hits House and the team.) Though I loved Kutner and hate that we won't have him around, I think it was a great creative move -- setting up so much in terms of why House didn't see it (but yet in the final photo of Kutner, showing us that there were those moments in his life beyond the fanboy facade) and the impact that will have on the team as a whole moving forward. I'm really, really grateful I was unspoiled, because it had that shock and awe and gut punch of seeing it happen, and seeing the reactions with fresh eyes. I know fandom's going to hate it, but I think it's a decision with great continuing potential to explore and I absolutely think it's going to continue to play out. The easy decision would have been to get rid of Thirteen or Foreman, or Taub since we know about his previous suicide attempt. But the easiest decision isn't the most interesting one. OK. I'll be standing out in the corner of fandom all by myself.

extra_cat: Yeah, she noticed nodules and thought Eddie (Meat Loaf) might have a curable disease. My own question: What did Taub say to Cuddy? I missed that scene because of my screaming sister. Also: They could have made that death MUCH more meaningful. I mean, it was so sudden it had absolutely no... meaning, purpose, reason, etc. If Kutner had done something a little more selfless last week, then maybe it'd hold a bit more weight, and although what he did for Taub was nice, it wasn't... wasn't suicide-nice.

Chase couldn't even shave for the funeral? He really is going for broke with that look. I almost thought that they were going to off Wilson as well, because Cuddy was all, 'where is Wilson?' after they found out about Kutner. I liked the whole scene with House and Kutner's parents. I understand what they were going for, I could see that happening.