5.14 - The Greater Good

Deepak. Yes, he did. I am sure its the name his biological parents gave him because its Indian. I think it was a joke on Deepak Chopra, because Kutner was being all zen about finding balance.

Good point, jair. I am sure that it was reference to Deepak Chopra which makes it pretty funny.

And I really could have done without being treated to the sight of his nipples. And yet boards go crazy at the merest hint of skin from House. Double standards much? And when did House turn into Cupid? :roll: If he mentions the word love again I am going to throw something at the screen. They've turned him into a bloody Foreteen shipper. I am not buying that he's thinking about either Stacy or Cuddy. I'm thinking that House's interest here -- especially if they're intentionally echoing the choices and issues of House and Stacy (moved in together quickly, she made medical decisions without consulting him, etc) -- is a direct thread from the conversation in the bus with Amber. House has been reconsidering aspects of his life, in that he doesn't want to be alone and miserable. He's directly apologized to Wilson, dealt with bringing him back into his life. He's considering whether to move forward with Cuddy .... it makes sense that he wants to see others not make the same mistakes he did with Stacy. Consider also that he backed off on Taub when pressed, and even gave Taub advice to save his marriage. (Advice Taub didn't take, but ...) House is in a different place emotionally this season. He's still a jerk, but in ways he's a more romantic jerk. He's making the attempts to connect, which are a huge step for him. And yes. Jair is right. It was a Deepak Chopra reference.

Cuddy, Oh dear,how I wanted to slap her last night, she is po'd because she has to come back to work, instead of playing mom of the year, to a child that is not her own, only a foster child. The emphasis is mine. Housecall, could you explain what you meant by that because I'm really uncomfortable with the only explanation I can come up with. On the other hand, Cuddy chose to come back. House didn't ask her to. House didn't try to sabotage Cameron so Cuddy would return. She and Cameron decided that she is the only person in the big, wide world who can control House so she came back and then she proceeded to physically punish House for her decision. ETA: fixed a sentence for clarity.

The emphasis is mine. Housecall, could you explain what you meant by that because I'm really uncomfortable with the only explanation I can come up with. Erm, yeah, me too.

Cuddy, Oh dear,how I wanted to slap her last night, she is po'd because she has to come back to work, instead of playing mom of the year, to a child that is not her own, only a foster child. The emphasis is mine. Housecall, could you explain what you meant by that because I'm really uncomfortable with the only explanation I can come up with Sorry if I offended you in some way, I was just giving my opion on last night episode. I never want to offend anyone. So I will delete my post and withdraw from posting. :cry:

No one said you had to withdraw your post and leave the board. We simply asked you to explain your comment. If you're going to throw your opinion out there, be prepared for others to disagree and question it, that's the nature of a discussion board.

13 being temporarily blind produced the exact same blank stare as 13 the mysterious damaged chick had for year. That not very flattering of OW's acting abilities, I know. Beyond that, POTW was ok ... I didn't mind Cuddy's pranks and kinda liked the light bulb moment she had after she gave House back his cane. I was very glad to see Wilson being worked back in to the show, last few epis have been annoying in their Wilsonlessness. But I do object to just how few House/Wilson scenes we get. I m loving Taub by the way, he gets great oneliners that he always seems to deliver to great (comic) effect. And it's nice we got some backstory on him and his wife. It bugs me that back in s2/s3 when chase/cam/foreman got plotlines they were mostly secondary and only got a scene or two per epi and now we.have.to.be.invested.in.thirteen.cause.she's.all.we.see

On the other hand, Cuddy chose to come back. House didn't ask her to. House didn't try to sabotage Cameron so Cuddy would return. She and Cameron decided that she is the only person in the big, wide world who can control House so she came back and then she proceeded to physically punish House for her decision. But the show did show Cuddy, with a big push from Wilson, coming to the conclusion that this was what she was doing and it was wrong. As Wilson told her, not only is House what he does, she is also what she does. That led directly to her apology, which, coming down from her high horse, was probably hard to give to House. Cuddy was wrong, and I didn't enjoy watching House fall, but she did realise she was wrong. She had to realise that it was up to her to define happiness for herself and it was alright for her to enjoy work and working with House, as well as miss the baby. I liked that her dynamic was the opposite of the POTW's, in terms of trying to meet society's expectations about personal life and work life.

On the other hand, Cuddy chose to come back. House didn't ask her to. House didn't try to sabotage Cameron so Cuddy would return. She and Cameron decided that she is the only person in the big, wide world who can control House so she came back and then she proceeded to physically punish House for her decision. But the show did show Cuddy, with a big push from Wilson, coming to the conclusion that this was what she was doing and it was wrong. As Wilson told her, not only is House what he does, she is also what she does. That led directly to her apology, which, coming down from her high horse, was probably hard to give to House. Cuddy was wrong, and I didn't enjoy watching House fall, but she did realise she was wrong. She had to realise that it was up to her to define happiness for herself and it was alright for her to enjoy work and working with House, as well as miss the baby. I liked that her dynamic was the opposite of the POTW's, in terms of trying to meet society's expectations about personal life and work life. I agree with you there. What I was trying to say was that, if she's mad because she has to be at the hospital rather than at home with Rachel, then she should be setting trip-wires for Cameron, not House. It was Cameron's decision not to supervise House that resulted in Cuddy returning full-time. House did not try to get Cameron to quit. That's not to say that there aren't plenty of times that House does something which could justify retaliation (of a less physically painful nature). It's just that this occasion didn't.

Cuddy, Oh dear,how I wanted to slap her last night, she is po'd because she has to come back to work, instead of playing mom of the year, to a child that is not her own, only a foster child. The emphasis is mine. Housecall, could you explain what you meant by that because I'm really uncomfortable with the only explanation I can come up with. I don't know what Housecall meant, but I was bugged from the simple notion that Cuddy is insane without even the element of hormones working against her or dealing with any sort of post-partum depression which can wreck havoc on the nervous system. She's just plain nuts on her own accord. 13 being temporarily blind produced the exact same blank stare as 13 the mysterious damaged chick had for year. That not very flattering of OW's acting abilities, I know. I could find no discernable difference between her "I'm blind" and her "I'm bland" look. eta: I don't think Cuddy is being nuts ... I think Cuddy is being Cuddy. She wants to be at work, she feels guilty for wanting to be at work and blames the person she can most easily blame, her work baby House. It's not out of character, House has zeroed in on Cuddy's guilt issues about everything since season 2 .... If this is Cuddy being Cuddy then, IMO, Cuddy is nuts. Reasonable people do not come to these kind of conclusions and then act upon them. Whether she was eventually made to realize it later or not, these were not the sort of retalitory actions that sane people make. Guilt, IMO, had very little to do with it.

I don't think Cuddy is being nuts ... I think Cuddy is being Cuddy. She wants to be at work, she feels guilty for wanting to be at work and blames the person she can most easily blame, her work baby House. It's not out of character, House has zeroed in on Cuddy's guilt issues about everything since season 2 ....

I don't think Cuddy is being nuts ... I think Cuddy is being Cuddy. She wants to be at work, she feels guilty for wanting to be at work and blames the person she can most easily blame, her work baby House. Well, I hope she never feels guilty about wanting to be at home because I'd hate to think how she could easily blame her baby for that. Kid better watch her step once she can walk. If she's got guilt issues, how exactly is physically harming someone else going to ease them? That makes no sense, her reasons made no sense, she made no sense. She's been all over the place sine LTEC.

If this is Cuddy being Cuddy then, IMO, Cuddy is nuts. Reasonable people do not come to these kind of conclusions and then act upon them. Whether she was eventually made to realize it later or not, these were not the sort of retalitory actions that sane people make. Guilt, IMO, had very little to do with it. Number one: this is a TV show in which "normal" has different meanings. Reasonable people do not act the way they do in a TV show .... any TV show. Number two: Cuddy knew she stepped over the line. She got called on it by Wilson, she admitted it, and she apologized. That was part of the point. From a dramatic standpoint in which laxatives have been used in previous prank wars, to make a dramatic statement showing clearly that the character had gone too far they had to make it obvious. She had to be shown crossing the line. And considering that this is a guy later seen in the episode blithely stealing cash from some guys unlocked locker, that line is sometimes hard to define. It had to be clearly understandable that she had gone too far and this wasn't a normal prank. If she had done those things and got away with it, that would be a different story. Yes, we were supposed to be pissed on House's account. Yes, she was wrong. Doesn't mean that she's psychotic, it means that she was pissed and went too far.

I don't know what Housecall meant, but I was bugged from the simple notion that Cuddy is insane without even the element of hormones working against her or dealing with any sort of post-partum depression which can wreck havoc on the nervous system. She's just plain nuts on her own accord. There is a well documented risk of post adoption depression for adopting parents. Scott talks about it in his Polite Dissent review. Add to that the emotional tug of war of trying sort out your own balance between mom and working woman and there was lots of reason for Cuddy to be emotional. What I was trying to say was that, if she's mad because she has to be at the hospital rather than at home with Rachel, then she should be setting trip-wires for Cameron, not House. It was Cameron's decision not to supervise House that resulted in Cuddy returning full-time. House did not try to get Cameron to quit. Sorry, I understand better now. I think that Cuddy was not supposed to be angry at House for a specific action, but instead for being the kind of person who constantly needs reining in. I think she understood Cameron's decision that she wouldn't be a good provider of checks and balances, and she's angry that House needs them. That's the surface reasoning, anyway. Wilson made her take a more realistic look at what she was doing. She was angry at House for being House, and really, she loves working with House and appreciates what he brings to the hospital. He's a package deal and she wouldn't choose to return him. I wouldn't have minded more expression of this, but it was House who quickly took the apology scene and turned it into snark. Well, I hope she never feels guilty about wanting to be at home because I'd hate to think how she could easily blame her baby for that. Kid better watch her step once she can walk. I think dealing with House raises everybody's willingness to cross lines, not just Cuddy's. I don't suspect Wilson of dosing anyone else's coffe cup with an anti-depressant if he thinks they're unhappy. I don't imagine Amber would have appreciated an action like that at all. But Wilson wouldn't do that to anyone else, so it's a moot point. Same with Cuddy. I also think she recognised her own ill behaviour here and realised that she did not want to be that person. Wilson told her her actions defined her as much as House's did him and she pulled back and apologised.

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