I can't believe I'm here in the middle of the school day :lol:
This episode really was an answer to 97 Seconds. In that one, House stupidly risks his life, and has Amber revive him so Wilson doesn't have to worry. In this, House risks his life to save Amber's for Wilson's sake. 97S has House wake up, after reconfirming for himself that there is no after life, and tells Wilson he loves him. WH has House not wanting to wake up if he has to live with Wilson hating him. And the user who mentioned the electricity reference, there's another. And, in a way, this House/Wilson/Amber stuff started with 97S. Wilson waits for House to wake up in 97S, calls him an idiot, gives him extra pain meds, while Cuddy gives no sympathy to House. Cuddy sits by House's bed in WH, and Wilson is suffering too much grief to give House sympathy. And I'm sure there's more.
I like that a lot more than Wilson just returning the "I love you" and buttsexing House.
Next season, all about guilt. Oh yes. House feels responsible for Amber's death, and then Wilson, who is wired for feeling guilty, is going to grapple with having asked House to take this risk - and then having no payoff for that risk by Amber dying anyway and House suffering some sort of damage.
...I demand a House/Wilson hug next season.
Nevael- 05-20-2008
...I demand a House/Wilson hug next season.
I second that!
407- 05-20-2008
Next season, all about guilt. Oh yes. House feels responsible for Amber's death, and then Wilson, who is wired for feeling guilty, is going to grapple with having asked House to take this risk - and then having no payoff for that risk by Amber dying anyway and House suffering some sort of damage.
This is exactly where I think the discord in their relaitonship is going to come. Both are going to feel guilty and possibly feel like the other won't want to talk to them. And maybe Wilson will feel a little angry with House, because he tends to blame House for things anyway (Tritter arc, anyone?).
...I demand a House/Wilson hug next season.
Yes please.
Also, how did I not realise how depressing my music playlist is? Damn.
On the one hand, I want to go rewatch that episode now. On the other, it hurts too much.
travlncarrie- 05-20-2008
So, just how did House know about the rash on her back?
filex1410- 05-20-2008
Secondary thoughts on moments in the episode
Amber, in another House proxy parallel, self medicates.
Secret diet pills to keep her thin or active (speed) and the flu med for what seemed like a simple cold.
Taub was right drugs were a key just not the recreational kind. If both House and Wilson hadn't dismissed it so fast, House in his own defense, Wilson in Amber's, perhaps...
Wide stance joke, the Ladies room version. :)
W/A sex video, Wilson's women still take the lead sexually in the relationship, even in a good relationship.
Vote change bumper sticker in the bathroom behind 13 on a show where one of the credos is People don't change.
Loved RSL's "Previously on House" VO.
It's his voice, it always get to me, even in a small instance.
LightMyCandle- 05-20-2008
but Hallucination!Amber coming off the operation table was creepy as all get out.
That was creepy. But she never looked more beautiful than she did on the white bus at the end. She looked so pure.
Both are going to feel guilty and possibly feel like the other won't want to talk to them. And maybe Wilson will feel a little angry with House,
Yes and yes to NekoCat. I think they will both feel guilty. House for Amber's death and failing Wilson (neither really being his fault) and Wilson for asking House to do the procedure and possibly for Amber's death as well, if he would have been home he would have gone to get House and they probably wouldn't have gotten on the bus at all. I think they will both be struggling with their feelings and getting back to each other.
Great catch on the 97 Seconds parallels NekoCat. 97 Seconds is a favorite episode of mine and I thought this alluded back to that episode quite nicely.
WORD on the H/W hug and I really have faith that we'll get one at the end of the Amber grief/guilt story (however that plays out, I have no spoilers on it), but I can picture it concluding with a hug.
cindylouwho- 05-20-2008
I was a little creeped out with Cuddy at House's bedside (I like her less and less with each passing season)
Why is that creepy? Cindylouwho mentioned Wilson being a constant in House's life, well, so has Cuddy. You don't think that she would support and help care for the man who's probably also been the one constant in her life in the past decade? I don't see how Cuddy being there for House in his time of need could give someone the heebie-jeebies.
Seriously. House has "known" Cuddy for a long time, even if they just had a random fling at college, and then met up later when she was at PPTH. I don't see it creepy or odd. House needed to have someone there with him. New ducks had to deal, and the old ducks were together. Just b/c we didn't see it (like it has been said) doesn't mean they didn't stop to see him or get news. Foreman sounded like he knew what was going on after the brain bleed, and if he was in a coma, well what are they all going to do, stare at him until he wakes up? Wilson couldn't be there after what he went through, so it leaves Cuddy.
While I am not a H/Cu shipper, her being there doesn't mean it's creepy, or the 2 of them are going to have outrageous sex as soon as he is cognizant.
travlncarrie- 05-20-2008
Taub was right drugs were a key just not the recreational kind. If both House and Wilson hadn't dismissed it so fast, House in his own defense, Wilson in Amber's, perhaps...
Taub was also the one when looking at her rash to suggest it was a Flu based rash...it was dismissed originally.
I thought one part that was done exceptionally well was just before Taub confronts House at the beginning about potential drugs...anyway, the bit where HL sits in the chair, clearly exhausted, tired, maybe overwhelmed. He did that little, wordless action of sitting down really, really well.
vitawash99- 05-20-2008
Oh, man. I am not a big crier for movies and TV (seriously, I sat stone-faced through Schindler's List), but this gets added to the short list of things that had me in tears while I watched them. (The others being Bobby Simone, and "The Visitor" episode of Deep Space Nine....and randomly, something in Toy Story 2.) And this was worse than all of them. It was just that cascade of coincidences, so many tiny things that culminated in disaster.
In particular, it was that loss of hope, which I think Wilson was clinging to pretty desperately when he asked House to try the deep brain stimulation. I think Amber was the hope for Wilson to both experience love and for that matter, keep his nearest and dearest friend in the bargain, even if House didn't see it that way.
I did like the way 13's story tied into the theme of lost hope. Her snarky defensiveness worked well as she tried to avoid the fact that Amber's death was a possible preview of her own. 13 also knows that if she forms a relationship with someone, she's setting them up from the start for what Wilson's going through, and that's probably even worse.
I sort of wondered if there was a Wilson/Cameron conversation that got cut for time or something. I think I would have preferred to watch that over the montage of ambivalent visitors. Or get the montage - it did make sense, on some level, that they needed to say goodbye, especially since they'd been treating her - and not the awkward "we like her now" moment, which was just kind of clunky.
The little shot of the original recipe ducklings in the end was sweet, and Taub going home and giving his wife the most awkward full body hug ever was also cute.
I did think a few things seemed slightly cramped, like they needed to get in their story points to set things up for next year, but I still found it an intense, heartbreaking episode.
jonne- 05-20-2008
So, just how did House know about the rash on her back?
I suppose like Wilson suggested: in the ambulance or when they were cooling her.
cindylouwho- 05-20-2008
Next season, all about guilt. Oh yes. House feels responsible for Amber's death, and then Wilson, who is wired for feeling guilty, is going to grapple with having asked House to take this risk - and then having no payoff for that risk by Amber dying anyway and House suffering some sort of damage.
This is exactly where I think the discord in their relaitonship is going to come. Both are going to feel guilty and possibly feel like the other won't want to talk to them. And maybe Wilson will feel a little angry with House, because he tends to blame House for things anyway (Tritter arc, anyone?).
...I demand a House/Wilson hug next season.
Yes please.
Also, how did I not realise how depressing my music playlist is? Damn.
On the one hand, I want to go rewatch that episode now. On the other, it hurts too much.
I hear you about the music. I was waiting for the bus (which sent me off into near panic, irrationally) and I nearly started crying again listening to my i-ipod.
I re-watched it, I had to. I wish I hadn't because I was more upset the second time around, since I could actually process and watch without feeling so anxious about it all.
I also demand a House/Wilson hug.
LightMyCandle- 05-20-2008
I was waiting for the bus (which sent me off into near panic, irrationally) and I nearly started crying again listening to my i-ipod.
Yeah, I've been listening to all the depressing songs on my iPod (is it weird that there are a lot of them?). I'm so never getting on a bus again.
Just rewatching the "get off the bus" scene is enough to bring me to tears. I don't think my heart ever went out to House as much as it did in that moment. Has it been mentioned in the last 5 minutes how brilliant HL is? :P
About Huddy, I didn't find it creepy. She's his friend, she didn't want him to be alone and she cares for him. I thought it was nice that she was there. The emotional Huddy stuff didn't get to me (although it only has on a few select occasions) but then there was too much H/W and W/A heartbreak for me to possibly care about another ship.
vitawash99- 05-20-2008
Man, talk about the death of hope. I'd forgotten about the fact that in last season's finale, after they turned off the bypass, the wife's heart started again anyway.
bailey- 05-20-2008
Taub going home and giving his wife the most awkward full body hug ever was also cute.
I like that despite a near cross-body tackle, his wife didn't wake up. That's one heavy sleeper.
filex1410- 05-20-2008
Taub was also the one when looking at her rash to suggest it was a Flu based rash...it was dismissed originally.
Yes and replaced by the silly RMS Fever diagnosis. Even Wilson's line to make it plausible was incorrectly stated. He said,
Last week we had dinner with a friend and later we walked their dogs.
At what point did one friend morph into 2 or more. :)
It either should have been, "We had dinner with friends."
or
"We walked his or her dogs."
I guess it was a slip up line reading and they figured they could pass it off as Wilson being upset. But the diagnosis still stunk. :P
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