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Maryl- 05-19-2008

Terrific episode, full of irony. House solves the mystery but still can't save the patient. Amber went to pick up House and followed him onto the bus to please Wilson. You could say that her love for Wilson contributed to her death as much as any of the other tragic co-incidences. Mr. Logic and Reason, aka House, feels guilty about an accident that he did not directly cause. Also loved House turning the DDX upside down to accommodate Wilson's feelings, and the character development for both Kutner and 13.

NightOwl- 05-19-2008

Was that scene they cut supposed to be the "big operation that could change the series" that was spoiled awhile back? Please tell me they didn't cut that in favor of Thirteen in the bathroom? No, they didn't cut the scene. It was the deep-brain stimulation that Chase did on House. That is surgery. They drill into the skull and put a probe on the brain. I read all about it on wiki today. Gave me the willies. Why the hell did you have to bring up Bobby Simone from NYPD Blue??? Hee, :oops: . He was my favorite character and his death scene is one of the most moving things I've ever seen. Diane (was never a big fan of hers but she was great during his death arc) telling him to look at the ring just as he died kills me everytime. I know! Me too! That's why I'm mad you brought it up! More to cry about tonight! I hadn't thought of Bobby Simone for a long time! It's ok. I'll get over it. The brain has a gating mechanism for pain. Registers the most severe/most recent injury and blocks out the others. Tonight's House is a more severe/more recent injury, so I'll be focusing on that.

NekoCat- 05-19-2008

I still can't believe the Wilson-hate I'm seeing :shock: I mean, one, Wilson was right - House did forget something, the pills. Granted, that information ultimately didn't help (what's that? random circumstances again?), but it's not like he asked House to take the risk for shits and giggles or he wound up being wrong. And maybe I really just (THANKFULLY) perceive love differently from most people, but...loyalty is one thing, that comes with time. But once you love someone, you love them, no matter how long you've known them. Wilson loved both Amber and House. And you can't compare your love for one person to another, because it just is. (And if you really think that...sweet jesus, don't have kids.) Just...baffling how heartless the reactions are. And I always thought I was the stone-cold bitch.

LightMyCandle- 05-19-2008

I hadn't thought of Bobby Simone for a long time! See, I help you deal with new wounds by reopening old ones. :D Just...baffling how heartless the reactions are. And I always thought I was the stone-cold bitch. Me too. This played out how I wanted it too, nobody is really at fault. That made me happy (as much as I can be right now) and yet still there are people calling for Wilson's head. Whatever.

olivia720- 05-19-2008

We still didn't get an explanation as to why House was so drunk at 5:30 or whatever time it was. I don't think there's an explanation other than he felt like it. Amber went to pick up House and followed him onto the bus to please Wilson. You could say that her love for Wilson contributed to her death as much as any of the other tragic co-incidences. Excellent point. I didn't think of that. Clearly an allusion to the mattress thing.

Poeia- 05-19-2008

People get drunk and call someone to pick them up all the time. There is no way House could foresee that his calling Wilson for a ride would result in someone's death. Conversely, getting the deep brain stimulation on the same day that he had had a heart attack and a skull fracture was clearly a life-risking decision. I hope that once Wilson works through the grief he realizes that the accident was no one's fault and that, if House did deserve any blame, he more than atoned for it by risking his life to save Amber because that's what Wilson wanted. House may not be the type of friend you can go to when you need to have a heart-to-heart, but he will put everything on the line for a friend. And guilt. Don't forget guilt. House can't forgive himself for failing to be happy for his parents. I'm not sure what you're talking about here -- failing to be happy for his parents?

travlncarrie- 05-20-2008

Just finished watching. OMG. I need to think on it to really process it. But...I don't get all the Wilson hate going on. He is understandably upset...and he still cares about House, otherwise he wouldn't have checked in on him at the end. It may take him a while to come around, but he will. Love Kutner. Loved the bus scene at the end. Loved the whole gosh darn thing. Loved Taub and his wife. RSL...wow. LOVED Cuddy holding House's hand, and House allowing it. Knew 13 would have Huntington's the second they brought that up again this episode. So glad it played out as it did...House wouldn't betray Wilson by going behind his back with Amber. It was all an accident. The bus analogy...he got off the bus. Unlike his plane analogy with soap stud when he said he wouldn't get off the airplane. Has House changed? Four months. Sigh.

Bessie Mae- 05-20-2008

Where's the scene where Cameron sits with Wilson? I missed it and I can't seem to find it in the episode.

Nevael- 05-20-2008

Where's the scene where Cameron sits with Wilson? I missed it and I can't seem to find it in the episode. It's somewhere around the end, it's just a quick little thing. After House gets his brain stimulated and before they wake Amber up. :( She wasn't crying with him though, I would have thought that Cameron would have cried with him...for some reason. :/

Boffle- 05-20-2008

I tried to read this whole thread. I really did, but I'm still weepy and my analyzing bones just got broken. I'm truly grieving for all those characters: they are proxies for all of us, which makes it another sort of thing than a regular tv show. There's something more going on with the depth and heart and humanity that is in this show at its best, in all the characters. The love and heartbreak of the scene where Wilson asks House to do that: how could he, and yet how could he not? I heard tell of a group hug back a few pages. If that's still an option, I'm in :hugs, all weepy:

Bessie Mae- 05-20-2008

Where's the scene where Cameron sits with Wilson? I missed it and I can't seem to find it in the episode. It's somewhere around the end, it's just a quick little thing. After House gets his brain stimulated and before they wake Amber up. :(/ Thanks, although, for some reason I still can't find it. Not sure why I care, since it's so minor. It just seems weird that that one scene doesn't seem to be anywhere on my tv. Oh, well. Doesn't affect the episode overall, so I'll live without seeing it.

topiary- 05-20-2008

Delurking after an embarassingly long time to say: This was so heartbreaking. The worst part for me was House and Wilson's reactions. Not that it's not sad that Amber died (and "I don't want my last emotion to be anger" was beautiful), but being invested in them for so much longer they're pretty much the only thing I can think of right now. Wilson's sadness made me tear up, but so did the fact that he finally had the opportunity to see how much he means to House, but he was too caught up in Amber's dying to be grateful for it or to register how much danger House had put himself in. I can't blame him, but I'm starting to see where the argument that House cares more about Wilson than Wilson cares about House comes from. I just want to give every single character a hug at this point. Sorry if this was incoherent.

bailey- 05-20-2008

I liked this episode, but I'm certainly not overwhelmed by it nor am I huddled in a corner quivering anywhere in despair. I thought HL, RSL and AD were magnificent, but even so, the episode had some real slow patches to it. I was sold on the wrenching drama between House and Wilson and House's manner of proving his friendship to Wilson. Poor Amber. Forced to endure that parade of dispassionate, soulless "team" that meant nothing to her, nor her to them. (For that matter, poor Wilson who likely cares even less for this team. Cruel that he should have his short amount of time impeded upon.) Instead of forcing themselves on her in the most cliched montage ever, one of them might have thought to at least call her parents. No one needs Taub at a time like that. (I remain hopeful that the Obama-ish "change" bumper sticker in the back of the bathroom stall 13 was hiding in was a message that she'll be moving on from the show. Soon. Speaking of which, the whole "wide stance" joke is just not funny anymore, nearly a year after it's inception. And, indeed, after it's already been referenced on this show and lampooned everywhere else.) I honestly care not one whit about 13's issues. I feel as though I've been pounded over the head with them since her introduction to the show and, truly, they do nothing for me. The actress doesn't sell them and if I'm being honest about moments that dragged in this episode, I simply must point to her storyline which gets more and more tedious as time goes on. End it. End it now. Equally awful is Taub's character. What I used to immensely enjoy about this show is that you knew when another character presented their point of view, it was likely going to be a plausible examination of a critical issue from a unique perspective. Taub's suggestion that House and Amber were having a 4-hour affair and were doing drugs together was not only a red herring but was fairly insulting to the characters as we've known them. The problem with Taub and 13 (thankfully Kutner doesn't tread down this route) is that they're put in place to argue strenuously things we either already know about House (that they couldn't possibly know) or to present scenarios which are widely inconsistent with what we know about House, assumptions and insinuations that we're forced to follow for no logical reason. I get the sense that Taub was chosen because he is supposed to have such amazing insight into human behavior and yet what I consistently see is that Taub is only useful in identifying behavior close to his own. It's like watching Mike Brady keep re-designing his own house because it's truly the only idea he can come up with. Not interesting, not challenging, Taub really should go now. I'll join the chorus and say that while it was sweet that CC&F had their own reunion at the end, it was shockingly out of character that none bothered to check on House. Then again, every time I see them this season I have to forget 10 other things I already knew about them from previous years, namely their concern in "Half-Wit" and "No Reason." Seeing House in dire straits may get old hat, but they knew for a fact he wasn't faking anything this time, particularly since he'd had a heart attack that very morning. Whatever. All this being said, I'm intrigued as to where House himself is left this year. My major complaint of the season is that I'm not really sure I can follow his path there, though. He was "fine" at the end of season 3 and throughout the gimmicks of this season, House was somewhat lost to me. If anything, he wasn't miserable at all. As portrayed, he's had little complaint of pain--definitely more mobile than we've ever seen him before--and little to no reflection on whether or not he really was lonely, bitter, miserable or even willing to address the above. It seems obvious to me that Wilson's relationship with Amber would have brought House's loneliness/misery to a focal point, but these episodes have all been so cluttered and crowded to really make a dramatic issue of it, which is a real shame. Oh well, season 4 is history. Here's hoping season 5 repairs what I feel were some pretty grievous self-inflicted harms.

topiary- 05-20-2008

Poor Amber. Forced to endure that parade of dispassionate, soulless "team" that meant nothing to her, nor her to them. (For that matter, poor Wilson who likely cares even less for this team. Cruel that he should have his short amount of time impeded upon.) Instead of forcing themselves on her in the most cliched montage ever, one of them might have thought to at least call her parents. Agreed--this was one thing that bugged me a lot. The visits of the new Cottages can be sort-of explained by the fact that on top of having known her previously they were serving as her doctors, but the idea that Amber had no family or friends who would visit her were she dying is just unrealistic, especially considering that she's known Wilson for a very short period of time.

travlncarrie- 05-20-2008

I have to wonder about why House was at that bar...was he suicidal? The conversation on the bus at the end...he was tired of hurting. It would be easier to die than to live (as Wilson once told him) but he chose to get off the bus. He didn't choose the easy route, he chose life. He chose to get off the airplane, which is opposite of what he said he'd do (using his metaphor with soap stud from earlier). I have a lingering question though. There was a spoiler... a spoiler photo of House in an alley with a woman holding an aersol can of some sort. What the heck was that? A doctored photo to throw us off? A shot off screen, just something from on set? Weird.

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