But Jesse Spencer remains, in my opinion, the best actor of the fellows. He has always been given very little to do and manages to make a impression and make me want to know more about him. I honestly can't say that about any of the others.
That's the great contrast I see between Jesse and Olivia/Chase and 13. They have consistently informed us that 13 is "mysterious" but I have absolutely NO questions about her at all. I don't want to know more about her. I don't care. I don't find her mysterious. I find her dismal and boring. Chase isn't consisently referred to as "mysterious" by the producers or by the characters, but he's been written and portrayed in such a way that I have a ton of questions about him, his motivations, his actions, and his reactions. With the amount of focus 13 has had over the course of this season, she should have done something by now to prove herself interesting and multidimensional. It hasn't happened. She was actually at her best in last night's episode because she didn't get so much focus for being mysterious! dying! afraid! nameless! bisexual! House's long-lost daughter! an astronaut!
misanthropicobs- 05-06-2008
As someone said earlier about the whole House putting his interests above the hospital, it was more that he was putting his patient's interest first. Yes, House was wrong about the specific allergen but right about the diagnosis being an allergy. I seem to remember something being said about if they followed procedures in testing till they found the specific allergen the patient would be dead. So if my memory (and I haven't seen the show again) is correct then treating for an allergy was correct in that it saved the patient's life. It wasn't House's personal interests here it was in the interest of the patient that the treatment was started before the specific allergen was discovered.
Lagniappe- 05-06-2008
True...however, House doesn't really care so much about the patients as the "puzzle" (though I do think the fan in him did like *this* patient)...and he himself admitted "You should have stopped me" to Cuddy, so he recognized he had crossed some boundary he shouldn't.. Self interest or not, treating the patient with anti-allergens was what *House* wanted...even if it was because he was looking out for his patient.
Poeia- 05-06-2008
True...however, House doesn't really care so much about the patients as the "puzzle" (though I do think the fan in him did like *this* patient)...and he himself admitted "You should have stopped me" to Cuddy, so he recognized he had crossed some boundary he shouldn't.. Self interest or not, treating the patient with anti-allergens was what *House* wanted...even if it was because he was looking out for his patient.
I don't think it's putting himself first, it is putting the patient first. But he does realize that Cuddy, as the administrator for the entire hospital, should not put the interests of one patient ahead of everything else.
He stated it clearly in Sex Kills when he told Cameron that the committee had made the right call when they denied Henry a new heart. His arguing with the committee was "advocating for my patient" as was his signing the letter Cameron wrote. For the committee, the hospital must come first but for him, his patient comes first.
misanthropicobs- 05-06-2008
I do agree that here he was recognizing the difference between his position and Cuddy's position. He understands that difference and recognizes that from her perspective as the hospital administrator he was wrong, but from his own position as the doctor for a particular patient he was right. House, I think, doesn't so much see each patient as a person who he connects with, although there have been those as well, but as a means to doing what he does best and and the thing he finds the most interesting - solving the puzzle of what makes them ill. His puzzles are humans and the diseases they get. A solved puzzle is a human who has been cured and each one teaches him something for use the next time.
usomitai- 05-06-2008
Some on the forum are wondering what the "meaning" behind Wilson wanting something all his life and not being happy when he finally got it; others wondered what ever happened to the patient. Did he get a new job? Did he change his life and become happier?
I think the first question answers the second one. We don't need to see what happens to the patient after the diagnosis, because the answer is embeded in the episode, from Wilson's reaction to the water bed: even if he *does* change his life/job, he'll probably still be unhappy.
On the other hand, like Wilson was glad to have at least tried the water bed, it's important that the patient at least *try* to be happier. Because as House pointed out, jumping out of the plane is stupid. What else are you going to do but try to make the best of it?
And on a more general level, Wilson's unhappiness with the waterbed reflects a theme of the series-- happiness isn't having something you thought you wanted.
Other than that... the premise was idiotic (House kidnapping stars??), but once I accepted that, it was a pretty fun episode.
Taiga- 05-06-2008
I still have to ponder about the waterbed and how symbolic it was for Wilson's life. He bought what he wanted, but it didn't make him happy, so at the end he settled with the one Amber chose... I don't know if this is a good sign or not... Is Amber the waterbed or the regular mattress? Or am I reading to much into this?
I thought it tied back to House's speech to Evan about how people don't try to change because they still have hope that way, whereas if they try and fail they'll lose hope and that's worse. Wilson tried and failed, but was still glad that he tried.
On rewatch my thoughts were
1) I'm now convinced again that that scene didn't show Chase and Cameron as department heads. Whew! Yes Cameron said she had a department to look after, but we were also specifically told that she's an attending. Chase was just, there.
2) Maybe Chase is running Oncology, because Wilson sure isn't.
3) Studies have shown that happiness levels are pretty much pre-set. Sorry, Evan. But dammit man, you could still do something "meaningful" and not quit your job - ever hear of volunteer work?
4) Someone please explain why Evan's allergy kept getting worse in the hospital even though he wasn't drinking quinine any more.
5) So TV's most popular soap opera is filmed in Princeton?
6) I practically cheered when inspector guy told Cuddy that everyone thinks that they're in that 5% who shouldn't follow the rules. Because it is so true! It reminded me of the judge telling House that he's not as special as he thinks he is. Sure some of House's success comes from not following the rules, but a lot of the time he doesn't follow the rules simply because he doesn't want to - and as inspector guy said, he shouldn't get away with it.
7) Wilson and Amber are wonderful together. I adore them. But why did we get to see Amber sleeping naked while Wilson was in a tee-shirt? Why couldn't Wilson be naked too?
8 ) House and Stacy's love is vinaloo curry, House and Wilson's love is macademia nut pancakes, Chase and Cameron's love is microwave pizza, House and Cuddy's love is sweet sauce. Discuss.
NightOwl- 05-06-2008
5) So TV's most popular soap opera is filmed in Princeton?
House kidnapped Evan from the studio in New York. It clearly looks like New York, and Evan says, "Where are you going? My apartment's on the West Side." New York reference. It's only a bit over an hour's drive from Princeton.
7) Wilson and Amber are wonderful together. I adore them. But why did we get to see Amber sleeping naked while Wilson was in a tee-shirt? Why couldn't Wilson be naked too?
I thought that was weird too. They did it, she fell asleep, and when he couldn't get to sleep, he put on a t-shirt and went to the living room floor? I wanted shirtless!Wilson!
hwshipper- 05-07-2008
Just seen ep (dang RL and being in a whole 'nother country)
Loved H/W mattress shopping, for obvious reasons. :wink: But would rather W/A took place off-screen, frankly.
Um, that's it for me & my shallow fangirl reaction. But I do enjoy reading everyone else's far more intelligent & intellectual readings & observations, honest. And using my new icon.
ikilledkenny- 05-07-2008
I liked Cameron this week and was incredibly happy when she said she didn't miss House. Although, I have to say that I never thought that she really loved the puzzles back in s1-3.
I loved seeing the more serious side of Wilson/Amber and Amber in general.
Also, I really want to know why is Foreman always so keen on nuking people. :lol:
Uh, Mr. Inspector person? You noticed Dr. Chase what? Got fired from his last position? Is in no way qualified to run a department? Needs a haircut like yesterday? What?
I'm dying to know. It's driving me crazy they cut off the scene when he said Chase. Maybe he's getting his own storyline? :lol:
LightMyCandle- 05-07-2008
I have to say that I never thought that she really loved the puzzles back in s1-3.
That's what's holding me back from believing her. She never seemed interested in the puzzles and the adreneline when she worked in the department. Just the ethics, patients, Chase, and House. It's so weird that now I'm expected to believe that suddenly she loved her actual job so much and it's that reason alone she can't let go? It has nothing to do with the man she's been obsessed with for far too long? I want that to be true, but to me, it goes against everything I know about her. She's the emotional and "caring" one, not the one who loves the puzzles and mystery side of the job.
NightOwl- 05-07-2008
I completely agree, ikilledkenny and LightMyCandle! I hadn't been able to put this into words, but yes, I was sure she was lying about this (and about not missing House).
When has she ever cared about medical mysteries? Yes, she has often brought weird cases to House's attention, but I never got the impression that she was especially dedicated to this kind of work. She has always seemed like a science-nerd who loves the lab, but she never seemed particularly jazzed to be breaking into people's homes and searching. She seemed to do this stuff because of a strong work ethic and a desire to impress her (hot) boss.
If anyone has enjoyed the "medical mysteries" aspect of this work, it's Chase.
Evil_Diva- 05-07-2008
I completely agree, ikilledkenny and LightMyCandle! I hadn't been able to put this into words, but yes, I was sure she was lying about this (and about not missing House).
When has she ever cared about medical mysteries? Yes, she has often brought weird cases to House's attention, but I never got the impression that she was especially dedicated to this kind of work. She has always seemed like a science-nerd who loves the lab, but she never seemed particularly jazzed to be breaking into people's homes and searching. She seemed to do this stuff because of a strong work ethic and a desire to impress her (hot) boss.
If anyone has enjoyed the "medical mysteries" aspect of this work, it's Chase.
I believed her. I guess she didn't really realise how much she actually liked the job and the puzzles until she actually let go in the end. You don't know what you got until you say goodbye. I think that all that time working in the ER she realised that it is not as exciting and challenging as the diagnostic puzzles she used to do with House and the team. After a while you tend to look back and think to yourself gee I really miss those times. I think that can be the same for cameron. People can grow and realise things over time and it usually triggers when you are doing something else in your life that doen't come close to the joys of what you did before.
Lully- 05-07-2008
NightOwl wrote:
When has she (Cameron) ever cared about medical mysteries? Yes, she has often brought weird cases to House's attention, but I never got the impression that she was especially dedicated to this kind of work.
This is kind of true, but Cameron was also the most curious fellow - granted, she seemed nosy specially about House's life. So, she may be not the one who cares about puzzles, but I think once the patients got her attention and her sympathy she wants to find out what is wrong with them as much as Chase or House - I know there are cases that she chose to ignore, but I think they're exceptions. I guess this is what she misses, not the puzzles, but the close interaction with the patients, the possibility of dig into their lives.
Or maybe I just really, really want to believe her. I want to believe her since The Jerk. And despite I still find her annoying and smug, most of the times, I can tolerate her more this season than any other. If I wasn't aware about "the crush", I would have enjoyed her scenes with House more, but at least she seems more mature and her interactions with him lost that awkwardness that was so distracting. They can keep this Cameron (IMO)
Taiga wrote:
I thought it tied back to House's speech to Evan about how people don't try to change because they still have hope that way, whereas if they try and fail they'll lose hope and that's worse. Wilson tried and failed, but was still glad that he tried.
Yeah, I see what you mean. It also ties with House's conversation with the punk-rock singer from Games.
NightOwl- 05-07-2008
I still find most of their interactions to be awkward, Lully.