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Taiga- 04-30-2008

Oh, I'm not giving her a pass. I don't see it as a betrayal of House's trust because House doesn't trust her, therefore there's no trust to betray. Wilson's trust, yes, but I wasn't thinking about Wilson. And a frog wouldn't give someone a ride on its back. I believe Wilson loves House and Amber (or that he thinks he loves Amber), that doesn't mean he won't toy with them.

Ranee- 05-01-2008

But why would Wilson ask in this moment whether House will continue sleeping with Person X? House does not have syphilis, so if he is sleeping with someone, then there is no need to stop sleeping with that person. (Regardless, I don't think House is sleeping with anyone.) Wilson said, "You're gonna keep screwing—" I think if he had completed the question, it would have been: You're gonna keep screwing with your new team? or You're gonna keep screwing with Amber? or anything similar to that effect. Umm, Cameron on Thursdays?? And Wilson knows (House didn't ask for Thursdays with him, Amber gets those). .

filex1410- 05-01-2008

Oh, I'm not giving her a pass. I don't see it as a betrayal of House's trust because House doesn't trust her, therefore there's no trust to betray. Wilson's trust, yes, but I wasn't thinking about Wilson. I may not have been clear on the betrayal issue, Amber betrayed House's trust in Wilson (although I don't think that was of any real concern to House in this instance, but I don't think she knew that) and Wilson's trust in her. And a frog wouldn't give someone a ride on its back. A scorpian probably wouldn't cross paths with a turtle or a frog and "ask" for a ride but that is the story. http://allaboutfrogs.org/stories/scorpion.html ETA, turns out there are two versions. http://www.snopes.com/critters/malice/scorpion.asp We were are both right. :) I believe Wilson loves House and Amber (or that he thinks he loves Amber), that doesn't mean he won't toy with them True. I guess I think it's less about toying with them and more about -*test*-('")ing them. Are they more concerned with making him happy or making each other miserable and in the bargain making him miserable too. But there's probably a little toying going on as they both seem to be toying with Wilson as well.

Lully- 05-01-2008

Am I really the only one who thinks that House told Wilson about the sample because he knew that Wilson would tell Amber and that she would use the information against him? Therefore, proving to Wilson that she was revengeful and wouldn't respect a secret that Wilson shared with her, if it'd serve to her purpose. After all the prank had nothing to do with their custody battle. It's hard to tell which one of them is the scorpion and which one is the frog (or turtle). All of them follow their real nature - they are which they are.

houserocket7- 05-01-2008

Does anyone else think that the PoTW looked a lot like John Goodman?

Namaste- 05-01-2008

You know, it just occurred to me that we've missed the obvious parallel in this episode: "Harvey." "Years ago, my mother used to say to me, she'd say: 'In this world, Elwood,' she always used to call me Elwood. 'In this world, Elwood, you must be oh, so smart or oh, so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. And you can quote me." - Elwood P. Dowd (James Stewart) What we have here is a patient who has been "oh so pleasant," or nice, if you prefer, but whose real nature may have been just another symptom. Meanwhile there's House, who has preferred to be "oh so smart," and who may have the capability to be nice, but doesn't exercise it, even when it comes to relations with his best friend's girlfriend of his employees.

mmp629- 05-01-2008

Does anyone else think that the PoTW looked a lot like John Goodman? Sounded like him, too!

usomitai- 05-01-2008

Am I really the only one who thinks that House told Wilson about the sample because he knew that Wilson would tell Amber and that she would use the information against him? It's an interesting possibility, but House looked upset and/or angry when he found out that Amber had ratted to the ducklings. If he was -*test*-('")ing anyone, I think it was Wilson. And Wilson failed, hence his expression. If it'd been a -*test*-('") for Amber, or if he'd wanted Amber to tell the others, he'd have looked smug.

Poeia- 05-01-2008

I have quoted Elwood P. Dowd on that very subject many times. But Elwood had made a choice. He had, apparently, been a go-getter when he was younger. He chose to remain pleasantly inebriated at all times, hanging out with Harvey. POTW wasn't drunk. He thought this was what his personality was like because he had no idea there was any reason for him to behave differently. The spirochetes will die off. But the little pieces of your cerebral cortex that have been destroyed won’t grow back. You’re brain damaged. Doomed to feeling good for the rest of your life. If penicillin wouldn't mean Georgia would revert to thinking and feeling the way she was before the syphilis began to destroy her brain, why did this patient? Edited by Poeia because apostrophes are not the same thing as equal signs and thinking that they are causes messed up formating for the page.

usomitai- 05-01-2008

If penicillin wouldn't mean Georgia would revert to thinking and feeling the way she was before the syphilis began to destroy her brain, why did this patient? I wondered that too, and ended up conclusing it was because it's more convenient to the plot/theme this way.

filex1410- 05-01-2008

Duplicate post...Rewatched and Revised below.

filex1410- 05-01-2008

Am I really the only one who thinks that House told Wilson about the sample because he knew that Wilson would tell Amber and that she would use the information against him? Therefore, proving to Wilson that she was revengeful and wouldn't respect a secret that Wilson shared with her, if it'd serve to her purpose. After all the prank had nothing to do with their custody battle. It's hard to tell which one of them is the scorpion and which one is the frog (or turtle). All of them follow their real nature - they are which they are. You are not alone Lully I've been saying the samething from the beginning. House got two for the price of one; a way to spill the secret to the team so they would move on to the next possibility and showing Wilson just how untrusty worthy Amber is and how her capability to as she said make him miserable is going to far out way any prospect of her making him happy. Wilson I think told her with that in mind as well. Ditto the character issue they each have their good points and flaws and act accordingly. However there may be a case where the bad will out weigh the good. It's an interesting possibility, but House looked upset and/or angry when he found out that Amber had ratted to the ducklings. If he was -*test*-('")ing anyone, I think it was Wilson. And Wilson failed, hence his expression. If it'd been a -*test*-('") for Amber, or if he'd wanted Amber to tell the others, he'd have looked smug. I rewatched the scene, I couldn't recall. You're right he is angry "killing spree", but it may be aimed more at Amber, he wouldn't necessarily look smug upon finding out that Wilson can't in fact trust his girlfriend. That doesn't mean he won't blast Wilson beacuse he would want Wilson to feel bad and to think about what he did and what Amber is capable of. But he could also just be genuinely mad at Wilson for using his secret to -*test*-('") Amber. I'm torn. If House genuinely thought that he could trust Wilson not to say anything to Amber then got that disappointed by him that is a rift starter. Likewise if Wilson wasn't -*test*-('")ing Amber but again thought he could trust her to keep his confidence, another rift starter, slight spoiler>>>perhaps the source of their upcoming argument in LTD <<</spoiler, that would ultimately work in House's favor. Good work usomitai, you've got me leaning this way now. :) Poor, stupid, foolish Wilson...

Namaste- 05-01-2008

I have quoted Elwood P. Dowd on that very subject many times. But Elwood had made a choice. He had, apparently, been a go-getter when he was younger. He chose to remain pleasantly inebriated at all times, hanging out with Harvey. POTW wasn't drunk. He thought this was what his personality was like because he had no idea there was any reason for him to behave differently. But has House made the opposite choice that Elwood did? We've heard that he thinks his brain is the most important thing he has. He says he's been alienating people since he was 3, and he's always been an ass, at least as far as anyone we've met has known him, but he's aware of what "niceness" is as well as "jerkiness." He has a choice to abide by the agreement with Amber and just go mini golfing with Wilson and make sure he comes home on time. He doesn't choose that. He makes a choice to lead his team down the wrong path with the planted blood sample, and he also chooses not to do a traditional employee review. The POTW may not have had a choice, but House does.

mmp629- 05-01-2008

Does anyone else think that the PoTW looked a lot like John Goodman? Talk about your six degrees of separation: "Paul graduated from Bogalusa High School with Anna Beth Hartzog the wife of John Goodman." :shock: :shock:

houserocket7- 05-01-2008

Does anyone else think that the PoTW looked a lot like John Goodman? Talk about your six degrees of separation: "Paul graduated from Bogalusa High School with Anna Beth Hartzog the wife of John Goodman." :shock: :shock: OMG, they're related!! :shock: :wink:

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