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Jouse- 10-31-2007

And about over zealous House? Yeah, thought that was weird but...it seems like his leg isn't bothering him too much, his support network (whilst perhaps unwanted on occasion *foreman*) is HUGE at the moment (which doesn't work with loner House but I digress...) I think he might've truly got over Stacy and no super dark nemeses so maybe this is the happiest he's been for four years? Maybe it works? Then why was he toying with death only a couple of weeks ago..? :? (I'm not attacking you or anything, just trying to decipher TPTB's overview, assuming they have one). I can't help but feel that House's character is suffering from a major Dissociative identity disorder.

MaryIsobel- 10-31-2007

Wow, first impressions with only one viewing, I really liked it. They even did the unbelieveable and allowed me to actually like what they did with Foreman. Only down side to that is that now Foreman will be front and center alongside House while Chase and Cameron probably will remain in the background. But hey, at least if we've got to have him, I don't hate him 100% of the time any more (so far). Pretty much the only things I didn't like: Cuddy and the laxatives (though I did like the where were you 2 hours ago) and way too much 13. Still hate and loathe her big mysteriousness and them still holding out on her with House--hate hate hate that plot--and her smugness that she didn't get outed by tpotw in front of House and he finds her hot. Rather ambivalent about Wilson having the power in the House/Wilson ship though of course not surprised that House owns Cuddy. Who didn't know that? and if Cuddy had won, the show would have been over. I don't think the Cuddy going to get pregnant line meant House and Cuddy are having sex; it was just a reference to House messing around with her contraceptives in retaliation for her dosing him with laxatives--which in my opinion she totally deserved. Cuddy said that she hired Foreman because House's survivor game caused the death of a patient. But who's to say that even if there were only 3 fellows, 13 wouldn't have been dumb enough to drop off the pills and leave. After all, it was a patient who could barely move. You don't watch him take the pills. You put them in his mouth then you put the straw from the water glass between his lips. Or, better yet, you put a liquid form of the medicine in his IV. Hear! Hear! Poeia. ITA Clearly House is the alpha in all cases. Wilson just whines louder in his head ;-P I love you Boffle! :kiss: ETA: After all the squee about the "I love you" not even one comment on the "I hate you"? :wink: Correction: there was one comment though only to say I hate you actually means I love you. To each his own.

Namaste- 10-31-2007

I actually thought "what the...? Since when does the show House do toilet humour?" Since the first season? They love shooting scenes in the bathroom. Cuddy followed House there for the "I wash before and after" comment, there were Foreman, Chase and House in the bathroom for the secret DDX in "Kids," with the kid having a loud bowel movement and House's admonishment to "google it". We had Wilson's comment about watching House's feet during the wheelchair bet ... so House's "that was just a courtesy flush" comment to Foreman didn't seem out of place to me. I laughed.

LightMyCandle- 10-31-2007

I loved seeing House happy, or at least happy for him. I love the angst but it nearly killed me last year, so things like this are refreshing. I did think he was a little over zealous though, there were a couple of times I just wanted to say, "hey, calm yourself." But I still liked it. So, I guess House is now buddies with all the old fellows, and of course, we only get to hear about his interactions with Chase, *Grrrr* But, I'm fine with it really. I thought Foreman made on heck of a turn around really, really quickly though. I know we were all sick of emo!Foreman but I expected a little more resistance than this. Chase-in the whole five seconds I saw him, I just wasn't feeling the hair like I usually do. I wonder if he and JM are getting sick of the scrubs. I loved the "Great mayonaisse panic of 2007" line, just made me crack up.

ggo85- 10-31-2007

If House can tell the difference between the vicodin & laxatives, doesn't it mean he took the later deliberately? I thought it meant only that Vicodin relieves pain; laxatives don't and create a new problem. Thus, the switch becomes obvious pretty quickly. If you swap out a birth control pill for, say, an anti-histamine, it might not be as obvious unless/until she gets PG. That said, most BCPs come in blister packs. I think it would be rather hard to swap them out w/o it being noticed - in fact, short of a very elaborate prank, don't see this as realistic. Certainly much harder than switching pills in a bottle. BUT, the folks who wrote this plot are probably guys and probably didn't think about how BCPs are packaged. A few other random thougths: (1) I actually wasn't totally annoyed w/Foreman in this ep -- for probably the first time ever. Maybe this is part of the House trying to adopt "friends" other than Wilson thing. It's not that I liked Foreman, I just didn't spend every moment he was on screen wishing he was off. (2) If this is all they're going to do w/Chase and Cameron , fire them now. SRSLY. It's painful. (3) OK, I guess we're to assume that Wilson is a surgical oncologist (though, outside of the two surgeries, we've been given nothing else to suspect this is the case). Why do I get the impression TPTB now wish they'd made his character a surgeon rather than an oncologist and are just making it up as they go along? (4) I agree w/those who'd like a good medical mystery. They can't have run out of possibilities already. I don't mind some character development, but I am missing the medicine. (5) Ep was ok for me. Better than last week. But still think something is missing this season and can't quite figure out what.

Silja- 10-31-2007

The medicine in this one? Well, it seems the patient has athlete's foot on his brain. That's the way to psychic powers. Amazing /sarcasm. The plot was underwhelming to say the least, but I'm happy that Foreman is the only one of the old fellows who getting much screen time. I'd rather do without all of them but at least it still feels like a fresh show - not the stale formula of late S3. ETA: Forgot to add: I don't care how annoying House was being, but to take away his pain medication and replace it with laxatives was a low blow and utterly irresponsible. It's as if Cuddy has gone back to thinking that she can taunt him whenever she wants. It made me think of the end of Needle in a Haystack. Hm, how about taking his computer off the hospital network or blocking his privileges instead of hitting below the belt?

MaryIsobel- 10-31-2007

I may be alone in this, but I'm glad that every show doesn't have a House-broods-about-the-patient-alone-in-the-dark-musical-montage. He doesn't have to take every case and personalize it. If he did, that would get old and stale, as well as turning every case into a House life lesson. It's good to have the mix, and having a lighter attitude this week allows the darker, brooding episodes to stand out in contrast. Not alone, Namaste. ITA The occassional lighthearted and humorous ep doesn't have to mean the show has abandoned the angst-filled drama for good, just for this ep. I too prefer the balance. I don't care how annoying House was being, but to take away his pain medication and replace it with laxatives was a low blow and utterly irresponsible. I agree, Silja. Furthermore, it was far less mature than the Great Mayonnaise Whatever. What House did hit Cuddy professionally--interferred with the running of her hospital just as she was interferring with his running of his team--all she did was interfer with the running of his bowels.... Yet her rationale was that he was acting 14.... :roll:

Hibernia- 10-31-2007

ETA: Forgot to add: I don't care how annoying House was being, but to take away his pain medication and replace it with laxatives was a low blow and utterly irresponsible. It's as if Cuddy has gone back to thinking that she can taunt him whenever she wants. It made me think of the end of Needle in a Haystack. Hm, how about taking his computer off the hospital network or blocking his privileges instead of hitting below the belt? I couldn't agree more Silja (as I proved by lots of posts in another thread)!

OldHamster- 10-31-2007

That said, most BCPs come in blister packs. I think it would be rather hard to swap them out w/o it being noticed - in fact, short of a very elaborate prank, don't see this as realistic. Certainly much harder than switching pills in a bottle. BUT, the folks who wrote this plot are probably guys and probably didn't think about how BCPs are packaged. ITA. Also, birth control pills are teeny. Not easily confused with any other pill. I need to rewatch before I comment further. I got distracted during the first viewing ... probably because the ep. just didn't grab me.

Poeia- 10-31-2007

ETA: Forgot to add: I don't care how annoying House was being, but to take away his pain medication and replace it with laxatives was a low blow and utterly irresponsible. It's as if Cuddy has gone back to thinking that she can taunt him whenever she wants. It made me think of the end of Needle in a Haystack. Hm, how about taking his computer off the hospital network or blocking his privileges instead of hitting below the belt? Nah. She did that in the pilot. Wouldn't want to repeat themselves just to make Cuddy look like a competent professional, now would we? I actually thought "what the...? Since when does the show House do toilet humour?" Since the first season? They love shooting scenes in the bathroom. Cuddy followed House there for the "I wash before and after" comment, there were Foreman, Chase and House in the bathroom for the secret DDX in "Kids," with the kid having a loud bowel movement and House's admonishment to "google it". We had Wilson's comment about watching House's feet during the wheelchair bet ... so House's "that was just a courtesy flush" comment to Foreman didn't seem out of place to me. I laughed. Don't forget Safe, when Wilson was living with House. House peed without closing the bathroom door so they could talk and complained about the lack of Saran Wrap on the toilet. In Clueless House spent half the episode in the bathroom. He even made Cameron come into the men's room so they could work on the DDX while he was peeing. And his final confrontation with the would-be widow was in the ladies' room. ETA: After all the squee about the "I love you" not even one comment on the "I hate you"? Correction: there was one comment though only to say I hate you actually means I love you. To each his own. According to Cameron, the "I hate you" was like an 8th grade boy punching the object of his affection in the arm while "I love you" was House getting in touch with his feelings.

Namaste- 10-31-2007

Don't forget Safe, when Wilson was living with House. House peed without closing the bathroom door so they could talk and complained about the lack of Saran Wrap on the toilet. Not to mention the hand in warm water followed by: "You might not want to sit there."

blue- 10-31-2007

ETA: Forgot to add: I don't care how annoying House was being, but to take away his pain medication and replace it with laxatives was a low blow and utterly irresponsible. It's as if Cuddy has gone back to thinking that she can taunt him whenever she wants. It made me think of the end of Needle in a Haystack. Hm, how about taking his computer off the hospital network or blocking his privileges instead of hitting below the belt? She replaced his secret stash, not all of his pills. I have serious doubts he even took any laxatives. Also, House didn't seem to be in pain while either getting around or in bathroom, ergo, the pill switching didn't seem to affect him too terribly.

amysusanne- 10-31-2007

so House's "that was just a courtesy flush" comment to Foreman didn't seem out of place to me. I laughed. Ditto. I enjoy House's bathroom scenes/bathroom references. The comment to the kid in season one is one of my favorite exasperated House moments. Forgot to add: I don't care how annoying House was being, but to take away his pain medication and replace it with laxatives was a low blow and utterly irresponsible. And completely something House would do himself. I don't mind her stooping to his level. If she'd barred him from all of the vicodin in the universe then I'd have a problem with it, but she swapped out a few (not all) of his pills which would give him, at most, a couple of hours of annoying discomfort but not actually hurt him. I think this might be the first episode this season that I watch again. I've *intended* to watch a couple of episodes again and I've watched scenes here and there after discussing the show, but I'm actually going to take the effort to sit down for 43 minutes and watch this one from start to finish. Mainly for Frank Whaley. I love him and thought he was superb. He was great with everyone, but he was especially fantastic in the scene mirroring House mirroring himself. So was Hugh. That might be one of my favorite scenes of the series. It was played *so* nicely. I'm also happy with the direction they took the House/Chase relationship and I'm definitely looking forward to more insight on that one. I like this Chase a *lot*. I've liked this new Chase since the first moment we "met" him. I sort of want to see the missing scene of the two of them cutting the deal with the bet, but for the most part I'm actually happy we *didn't* see it. It was more perfect without seeing their backroom dealings on that one. And I did like that swerve of not getting rid of anyone for the sake of the bet because I had grown complacent to the idea that this really *was* a game show and someone was definitely going to leave each week. I've had my opinion of the fellows who make the cut since before the season started and that hasn't really changed, but I'm glad that DWB (who I've never thought stood a chance in hell of being a regular) will get another week because I've warmed up to him.

blue- 10-31-2007

Word, amysusanne! Also, I forgot to add that I really liked this episode. I've watched it a couple of times now and it gets better each time. It's a little depressing to come here and see so many people disappointed in this season because I'm really enjoying it so far. I like the new people and how they interact with House and each other. The fact that I respect the opinions of everyone on here makes it harder. So I think I'm going to take an extended leave of the boards, or maybe just the episode threads, for a while. I've enjoyed some of the analysis, but just watching the show will be enough for me.

Namaste- 10-31-2007

I know what you mean, blue. I get so frustrated, I just ignore the boards sometimes. Obviously everyone has the right to their opinions but it's very tiring feeling like you're the only one in the room, and I don't want to step on anyone's toes and say the wrong thing because of the frustration.