And isn't wilson a jew? It hasn't been mentioned since mid S1, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if TPTB have forgotten it.

I can't believe how heart-breaking this season is. Maybe I have a soft-spot for dying dogs, but this is the second time this season I cried from an ep. First the simple misidentification of a patient, and now accidentally not confirming that the meds were taken (and the dog taking them instead - probably a lethal overdose given the dosage, let alone the genetics of the breed). Does David Shore and company think we haven't watched Three Stories? Does he think House doesn't remember. The knife in the wall socket was stupid and insulting to everyone's intelligence. Wilson seemed to be saying this same thing to him as well but in his Wilsony ways. But House didn't seem to bring what he saw in "Three Stories" into this - he believed the entire time that it was his brain shutting down and a rush of chemicals surging through his system as it happened. He had a way to explain it without religion, therefore, he didn't need to believe. OMG "I love you." OMG! H/W forever!!!!! And even though the 2 of them were checking out Cuddy's sweet ass, they were thinking about how she would fit in a threesome I am sure, b/c we still get H/W together in that! Yes. Had soda coming out my nose during BOTH scenes! One thing though - I kinda felt like it was a possibility that the PotW didn't take the pills on purpose. He said that he was tired of being stuck in that body in pain and he'd rather just let it be over. Maybe he tossed them on the floor when 13 was getting him water and the dog got them. Doggies do tend to snarf whatever they find. Good point. And I'm glad that TPTB didn't go and use this patient as a comparison to House any more than they did tonight (if they had, a few sharks would have been jumped). There were a few spots - the wanting to see the point of brain death thing - that were edging on "PotW is House" thing, but they didn't use the patient as a morality tale for House or vice versa. Actually, I love the Ann Dudek character. She's the one who manipulated the nine people into quitting last week, right? If so, I'd want her and her cunning wits as my doctor. - The bunsen burner torches! (the rest of the scene was lame, though) They really weren't burning that efficiently. Now I want to go to my lab tomorrow and reinact that scene with the microbes I'll be working with. Hee! At this point, even though I think House needs some serious psychiatric help, I'd say Wilson needs a lot more. WORD!!! I think it was so interesting that House wanted to talk to knife/socket guy as soon as he woke up. How much do you want to bet that it was to say that the PotW was wrong? Oh, and isn't Cuddy supposed to be one of THREE female Deans of Medicine in the USA? One of the other ones just happens to be at Mercy? (Or did I dream that? It seems rather low, but I swear I heard that!) I remember that too, and I think it may have been in reference to whenever she was hired as the Dean. How come Mercy seemed to be a copy of PPTH tonight? Even Foreman's team had its own Cameron and Chase. The Dean there also seemed to be a lesser version of Cuddy.

It's interesting; I'm an atheist, and talk of religion invokes the same visceral reaction in me. I really shouldn't let it bother me so much, but I'm like House in my relentless pursuit of facts. :shrug: Did I accidentally start a religious debate? I didn't mean to. I have no problems with Atheists, Jews, Mormons, Christians, or whathaveyou. I just don't think that it's right to attack any of them based on what they do or do not believe. Personally, I'm a Christian but I would never try and make an atheist feel stupid because they don't agree with me. That's all I was saying. Dropping the subject now. I'm actually glad we have to wait two weeks for a new episode, I just want to bask in this one for a while.

The contrast between Foreman's boss & Cuddy was great as was Foreman's team vs CC&F. Imitations of the originals as was Foreman's behavior at Mercy - he's House-like, but he doesn't have that spark of genius or madness that makes House House and he's not really true to what ever he is himself. And there was a strong sense that Chase has turned into something authentic to himself.

Oh yeah, if I've learned one thing about Foreman tonight it's that I would never watch "Foreman MD" because those scenes were boring. It hasn't been mentioned since mid S1, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if TPTB have forgotten it. TPTB forgetting something about Wilson? :shock: Surely you jest.

It's interesting; I'm an atheist, and talk of religion invokes the same visceral reaction in me. I really shouldn't let it bother me so much, but I'm like House in my relentless pursuit of facts. :shrug: Did I accidentally start a religious debate? I didn't mean to. I have no problems with Atheists, Jews, Mormons, Christians, or whathaveyou. I just don't think that it's right to attack any of them based on what they do or do not believe. Personally, I'm a Christian but I would never try and make an atheist feel stupid because they don't agree with me. That's all I was saying. Dropping the subject now. What I find interesting in health care, especially in a Catholic health care organization, is how they do not emphasize one religion as a correct religion. Rather, they emphasize to help the patient physically, emotionally, and spiritually and help them to discuss their thoughts and feelings so that they have some mental peace to help in their physical recovery. It's just common courtesy to NOT badger a patient because of what he/she may believe, unlike what House did. No that we expect House to ever follow the rules. You don't have to agree with the patient's beliefs, just don't say to their face that they are wrong.

Me too. Hate the whole atheist thing. It produces a major visceral reaction with me. but I'm a christian so no surprise there. Well I'm an atheist I hate the whole...well never mind. I don't want to offend anyone. Whatever your feelings, atheism is valid. I'm sure you wouldn't want people referring to your beliefs as 'the whole Christian thing.'

Honestly, does the 'I love you' need mentioning anymore? It made me jump for joy, though. And then I loved when bitch-o (Thirteen?) was like 'Why'd you call me?' and House's explanation was: "If I pooped my pants in front of Wilson, I would never live it down." And the casual Wilson made me melt. I'm so glad he's getting out of the dressy stuff a little bit.

There's something so jolting about this show when the patient doesn't make it. I like the consistency that House doesn't punish people for making mistakes, too. 13 was affected but not an emotional mess, and I thought that was a good thing. I'm pretty sure Mary Sues don't kill people (and the dog!) on their second week on the job. I sort of like Amber, in a total trainwreck sort of way. Although, um, I think she should be able to figure out that the whole choking thing is a bad sign. (I was also waiting for House to tell Amber that if her bits did dangle, she was totally hired.) I liked her hitting up Chase and Cameron for help - especially when they both pretty much knew just what she was doing. Foreman's little side trip was interesting, too. I liked that he had this vision of himself solving these cases and doing it right, particularly in the aspect of being a good boss and teacher. Cuddy was reacting, I think, to House's rather lax attitude. She didn't see what we saw in the lecture hall, and I'd say he was uncomfortable with letting her see how upset he really was. (And notably, when Cuddy's angry? Fabric practically up to her chin.) I thought I saw a soupcon of first season Cuddy with the foot race comment. One can but hope. The whole electrocution thing was just bizarre. Especially when, as Wilson pointed out, House has been there before. Did he think it was going to be different this time? Did he just want to prove Wilson (and clinic guy) wrong?

Me too. Hate the whole atheist thing. It produces a major visceral reaction with me. but I'm a christian so no surprise there. Well I'm an atheist I hate the whole...well never mind. I don't want to offend anyone. Whatever your feelings, atheism is valid. I'm sure you wouldn't want people referring to your beliefs as 'the whole Christian thing.' Actually, agnostic here. And I get defensive when someone wants to evangelize to me. I chose this path via study and self-examination. It took time to develop these beliefs, and if/when someone gets in my face about how I am wrong (not you guys though because you haven't been that way ever), I will react to them. I dumped a boyfriend for that reason once - he wanted to convert me and I wouldn't have it. I don't get why House, who is normally such an anarchist, tells people to their faces how they are idiots for believing in something. What's it to him if someone has a belief? Other than the fact that the person with the belief has hope? House isn't anti-religion, he's anti-feel-good.

And then I loved when bitch-o (Thirteen?) was like 'Why'd you call me?' and House's explanation was: "If I pooped my pants in front of Wilson, I would never live it down." It wasn't 13, it was Amber. I know it's been brought up but I also think that House maybe wanted to spare Wilson being the one to find him like that and I mean it in all seriousness, none of that "well that's because he would've left him there" jokes. I know you're all thinking it.

Ahh. Sorry. Wrong person. I don't think Wilson would have left him again. Probably called him stupid, like he did, but definitely not left him. Or maybe that's just me.

I also think that House maybe wanted to spare Wilson being the one to find him like that and I mean it in all seriousness, none of that "well that's because he would've left him there" jokes. I know you're all thinking it. Good point. I wonder why he didn't page Chase - the man's an intensivist, he'd be very good at coping. I wonder if he thought Chase wouldn't come? Does anyone know the music track they used when House contemplating before sticking the knife in the socket? (& the director also for the ep? this one seemed like it wasn't Serafian's usually choppy style).