Lucky you. Give them time. The way House--who usually flinches away from being touched-- "bonded physically" with her when she helped him out of bed, her Cammi-like comment about him not having anyone to care, the way he shoved off from her when got "too close" emotionally all set off my ship-dar warning bells. I hope you are right but it wouldn't surprise me if my apprehensions played out. Maybe that's another reason why it puzzles me that people see ship as much as they do. Because I don't tend to see hidden meanings or metaphors or whatever I can't clearly express or understand from people who do. To me the scene didn't mean anything more than the obvious, and why should it? House was weak because he stuck a knife in a socket and needed help to steady himself. I didn't see bonding except in the obvious sense that he might have fallen down without someone to steady him. And, I would hope that someone implying that no one would care if they died would trigger at least curiosity or caring in anyone, not just someone who feels or might feel something romantic. I also think House would shove anyone off at that point.

And, I would hope that someone implying that no one would care if they died would trigger at least curiosity or caring in anyone, not just someone who feels or might feel something romantic. I also think House would shove anyone off at that point. Wilson, Cuddy and Cameron are the three people currently on the show that House has had some level of intimacy with (the latter two getting points for physical intimacy of some kind) and I have no doubt that he would have shoved all three away and made the same snarky comment. Wilson might have lasted a little longer than the ladies. Either way, getting help out of a hospital bed after you've electrocuted yourself doesn't really foreshadow OTP to me.

Since they didn't show House actually sticking the knife in the socket - being right-handed, did he purposely do it with his left hand so he didn't burn his right? It looked like only his left hand was burned.

Not sure what I feel about Undead!House (how many near-death experiences does one person need, after all?) because the whole thing seemed a bit unnecessary with everything else that was going on, but overall I enjoyed the episode and look forward to rewatching it.

What is up with the slight "Wizard of Oz" motif that seems to be happening? First we have Buddy Ebsen and his brief role as the Tin Man and next we have House saying goodbye to "Scooter" (the one who recognized B.E.) and saying he'd miss him most of all, like Dorothy to the Scarecrow. Is House wandering down the Yellow Brick Road this year or were they just going for the cute two-episode continuity joke?

Honest about what he sees as reality (that said belief is not true) and honest with the patient, which Wilson wasn't. You're still losing me. Would it have been better if Wilson had given his pesonal honest views on the subject? What House believes was of no consequence to the patient.

Either way, getting help out of a hospital bed after you've electrocuted yourself doesn't really foreshadow OTP to me. It doesn't have to forshadow that or anything at all. It probably doesn't and I hope to heaven it doesn't but if you are saying it couldn't possibly mean that--or by extension, that subtle, possibly meaningless scenes and gesture don't ever mean anything on this show--then I have to disagree. For what it's worth, I thought the impact of the scene was more on her than on House. I can see it as possibly being the beginning of her having a different kind of interest in House. I hope it doesn't but I honestly don't trust tptb not to go that route. So far, we've had three significant recurring female characters on the show: Cameron, Cuddy and Stacy and every one of them has some kind of romantic thing with House. I think it would be realistic and refreshing if none of the new female characters has even a hint of ust with House but given the track record, I don't have a lot of faith that it won't. The shows motto may be "sex kills" but FOX's is "sex sells" and I don't think tptb (remember the ones who love positioning HL as such a hot sex symbol?) have given us any reason to imagine they are going to shy away from that philosophy. If they do manage to resist that temptation, no one will be happier about it than I will but I'm not gonna hold my breath either. You're still losing me. Would it have been better if Wilson had given his pesonal honest views on the subject? What House believes was of no consequence to the patient. I don't see where "better" comes into it. It depends on your value system and how you want to be treated. I don't happen to like being lied to or condescendingly humored. I also think telling lies and being fake and phoney are bad for the psyche and for the soul if such exists. I personally would rather be disagreed with than lied to and humored. I don't see what business either of them has commenting on it at all unless the patient asked for their opinion or unless it factored into the patients treatment. House thought it did. Unless I misunderstood the scene--always a possibility, I admit--House's belief did, in his own estimation, have consequences for the patient. House thought the guy's willingness to accept death was based on a false premise. He was making his choice about the eye removal based on something he thought was going to happen or be there when he died. House believed the thing that made the patient reject the treatment did not exist. Therefore he was making his treatment decision based on a fantasy that was not going to happen. To House, he was throwing away the last chance to save his life because he was expecting something that wasn't going to happen. Pointing out this (from House's POV) fallacy was to convince the patient to make a better-informed decision about his treatment. House didn't want to give up on the patient though Wilson already had.

It doesn't have to forshadow that or anything at all. It probably doesn't and I hope to heaven it doesn't but if you are saying it couldn't possibly mean that--or by extension, that subtle, possibly meaningless scenes and gesture don't ever mean anything on this show--then I have to disagree. Well, I wasn't saying that, so we're good. I was speaking specifically of that scene and specifically of those two people. In spite of my opinion that House would have pushed Cuddy, Cameron or Wilson away and made the exact same comment to them, I think there would be far more happening in the scene than just someone helping someone out of a bed. There's friendship, fear, worry, romance, lack of romance, and seven billion other things. In this case? She helped him out of bed. Cut and dry. The potential there wasn't for forshadowing romance, it was for showing for a brief second that Amber's not a total uncaring bitch.

I'm also not saying that scenes don't ever mean anything. I just don't see the scenes or various other things that people tend to see meaning something as meaning ship as much as other people do.

One thing I found odd about the CTB helping House out of bed scene was how long and how close he leaned on her and let her stay in contact with her. This (combined with her question about his personal life) seemed to me that it could hint at something more maybe being foreshadowed. By no means clear or definite. Just a hint. But, my impression has always been that House doesn't not like to be touched and he does not like to be helped when he falls, stumbles, etc. So this seemed a bit out of key to me and therefore could have been significant. It could just as easily mean he used her as merely a crutch. Or it could mean he isn't as physically standoffish with her for some reason. Who knows? I hope he fires her between now and the next ep.

I've never paid attention to House's reaction to being touched. I'm usually looking at his eyes. And, no, not just because they're nice to look at, but because the emotions and part of him that isn't a jerk are shown there. But, I've read other people say House is actually fairly tactile. So, now I'm thinking I need to rewatch the episodes to see how he reacts to being touched normally, because I don't know which view I agree with.